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Gwario Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 11:06 AM EST
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First time buyer here. I bought some Rocky Patel edge corojos and San Andres. Received them Saturday, lit up on Thursday and am not getting the flavor experience I know and love from buying these at a B&M. Burn on the corojo is pretty horrific as well. Do they need to rest longer? They are pretty much flavorless so I am worried they lost their oils and won’t get their flavor back. Did I just get a bad batch or should this pretty much be corrected after a few weeks of rest with a Boveda 65rh in my airtight tupperdor? Have a 72 rh as well but fear that will be too wet and then I’ll have cat pee on top of a dog turd…..
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 11:13 AM EST
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You prolly have the covid.... Mellow
LeeBot Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 11:16 AM EST
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I definitely recommend giving them a month or two. Places often over-humidified for shipping, so need time to calm down for a while. Smoke other stuff and revisit later.




Or, get a Platinum Membership™. Platinum members get the cigars that are keep at a lower humidity, then they're shipped with Bovedas.
Gwario Offline
#4 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 11:17 AM EST
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That wouldn’t explain why I can taste everything else just fine my friend. Including the delicious stick I bought from a local shop that I smoked in between….
Gwario Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 11:26 AM EST
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Thanks Leebot… I see there is a free fall going on right now for platinum memberships. Gonna wait for it to drop to 3 bucks. Need yours renewed? I got you
DrafterX Offline
#6 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 11:29 AM EST
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Laugh
DrMaddVibe Offline
#7 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 11:43 AM EST
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Gwario wrote:
First time buyer here. I bought some Rocky Patel edge corojos and San Andres. Received them Saturday, lit up on Thursday and am not getting the flavor experience I know and love from buying these at a B&M. Burn on the corojo is pretty horrific as well. Do they need to rest longer? They are pretty much flavorless so I am worried they lost their oils and won’t get their flavor back. Did I just get a bad batch or should this pretty much be corrected after a few weeks of rest with a Boveda 65rh in my airtight tupperdor? Have a 72 rh as well but fear that will be too wet and then I’ll have cat pee on top of a dog turd…..



I see your problem.

2nd sentence.

What were you expecting?
KingoftheCove Offline
#8 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 11:58 AM EST
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Gwario wrote:
Thanks Leebot… I see there is a free fall going on right now for platinum memberships. Gonna wait for it to drop to 3 bucks. Need yours renewed? I got you

Applause
Good answer.
Oh, and like DMV said, RP cigars?
Well, maybe some shpo RP cigars are marginally decent.
Internet RP cigars?
Meh….
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 1:06 PM EST
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Friends don’t let friends smoke RP cigars.

We’re not friends. Do you want to be friends?
Palama Offline
#10 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 1:51 PM EST
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Gwario wrote:
That wouldn’t explain why I can taste everything else just fine my friend. Including the delicious stick I bought from a local shop that I smoked in between….



KingoftheCove wrote:
Applause
Good answer.
Oh, and like DMV said, RP cigars?
Well, maybe some shpo RP cigars are marginally decent.
Internet RP cigars?
Meh….


As you learn more about the cigar licensing gimmick, you’ll figure out which brands to avoid like the plague. To avoid the risk of a libel suit, I won’t list them but iffin’ you’re diligent and run through the “Cigar Discussion” forum, you’ll find threads that discuss which brands to avoid, at least from the places that are into the licensing game.
Palama Offline
#11 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 1:51 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Friends don’t let friends smoke RP cigars.

We’re not friends. Do you want to be friends?


Queue up Neil Young’s “Down by the River in a Rusty Van”.
tonygraz Offline
#12 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 3:08 PM EST
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Good suggestion - I'll load up Neil tonight.
DrafterX Offline
#13 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 3:34 PM EST
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freak... Mellow
Palama Offline
#14 Posted: Thu, Oct 26 2023, 5:30 PM EST
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tonygraz wrote:
Good suggestion - I'll load up Neil tonight.


Did you see Rolling Stone’s “Top 250 Guitarists” list? Iirc, Neil was ranked #20 or sumting like that. Pretty ridiculous! I love NY but he’s a one chord soloist and no way should he be that high.
KingoftheCove Offline
#15 Posted: Fri, Oct 27 2023, 3:55 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Did you see Rolling Stone’s “Top 250 Guitarists” list? Iirc, Neil was ranked #20 or sumting like that. Pretty ridiculous! I love NY but he’s a one chord soloist and no way should he be that high.

20 something????
Heh………..Neil was a decent song writer back in da hippy and early post hippy days, and a decent acoustic strummer/plucker.
But………….come on man…

Me thinks even Neil would laugh out loud at that one.
Imho he doesnt even crack the top 100, and I’m being generous.
RobertHively Offline
#16 Posted: Fri, Oct 27 2023, 4:01 PM EST
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Well I hope Neil Young will remember, a Southern man don't need him around anyhow.
LeeBot Offline
#17 Posted: Fri, Oct 27 2023, 4:54 PM EST
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RobertHively wrote:
Well I hope Neil Young will remember, a Southern man don't need him around anyhow.

Applause
Palama Offline
#18 Posted: Fri, Oct 27 2023, 6:23 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
20 something????
Heh………..Neil was a decent song writer back in da hippy and early post hippy days, and a decent acoustic strummer/plucker.
But………….come on man…

Me thinks even Neil would laugh out loud at that one.
Imho he doesnt even crack the top 100, and I’m being generous.


The rankings are horrendous as well as the glaring omissions. Off the top of my head, these guitarists didn’t make the list:

Terry Kath
Lowell George
Paul Barrere
Al DiMeola
John Platania
Albert King
Freddie King
Larry Coryell
Jesse Ed Davis
Neal Schon
David Hidalgo
J. Geils
Buzzy Feiten
Gene Cornish
Maury Muehleisen

Paul McCartney made the list! I know he can play guitar but last time I checked, his main axe is the bass.

Joni Mitchell was #9. Go figgah!

Roy Buchanan was #183. He truly is the World’s Greatest Unknown Guitarist.

I gotta stop, getting all worked up again. ram27bat
KingoftheCove Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 10:44 AM EST
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Oh fuq……
Neil Young is a MUCH better guitarist than Al DiMeola….
OK…………..sounds about right….

The people who made this up should go ahead and take over CA’s Cigar of the Year publication…..
LeeBot Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 11:13 AM EST
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^Angel

+1
Palama Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 1:43 PM EST
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KingoftheCove wrote:
Oh fuq……
Neil Young is a MUCH better guitarist than Al DiMeola….
OK…………..sounds about right….

The people who made this up should go ahead and take over CA’s Cigar of the Year publication…..


Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Ok Tony.
KingoftheCove Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 2:36 PM EST
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Palama wrote:
Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Ok Tony.

Ok, I’ll put it this way…….
I’m 98.5% sure Al DiMeola can play ANY song ever written by Neil Young………..and learn it in less than 5 minutes…

I’m just as sure that Neil Young couldn’t ever play, the vast majority of DiMeola’s pieces, no matter how much he practiced, even in his prime.

That said, I think Neil was a fine song writer, and wrote many good tunes.
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 4:48 PM EST
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Don’t forget who was left OFF the list completely….

https://youtu.be/OaxWtusmV7Y?si=CxuwL00K130HJqIN
ZRX1200 Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 6:21 PM EST
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https://youtu.be/YkjFAcJChXc?si=7satsqOGDlEdqCr_

Another one
Palama Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 7:42 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Don’t forget who was left OFF the list completely….

https://youtu.be/OaxWtusmV7Y?si=CxuwL00K130HJqIN


One thing fo’ sure, Rolling Stone is truly winning. I mean, once-upon-a-time RS was THE music publication to read. But over the years it became just a shell of itself and I’mma purdy sure many people completely forgot about it. Then they put out a lame-azz list and suddenly people are referencing it, talking about who’s on, who’s not, click-bait winnah!

As far as the video goes, yup, lotta names that shoulda been on the list. Rick Beato had a few thoughts about the missing guitarists too:

https://youtu.be/YkjFAcJChXc
ZRX1200 Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 8:45 PM EST
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Hey old man…..you miss #24
Palama Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 9:29 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Hey old man…..you miss #24


They were different URLs so thought they weren’t the same. Didn’t have a chance to watch yours so major frank up there! Mea culpa.
8trackdisco Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 9:46 PM EST
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LeeBot wrote:
I definitely recommend giving them a month or two. Places often over-humidified for shipping, so need time to calm down for a while. Smoke other stuff and revisit later.


+1.

Never smoke them immediately. Minimum rest for me is four weeks. More people suggest longer and they are probably right.
8trackdisco Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 9:49 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Friends don’t let friends smoke RP cigars.

We’re not friends. Do you want to be friends?


Have you tried the RP Session? If you think RP has made subpar smokes before, smoke this one. It may be a new low.
ZRX1200 Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Oct 28 2023, 10:33 PM EST
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I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on Rocky if he was on fire.
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Oct 29 2023, 12:04 AM EST
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Gwario wrote:
First time buyer here. I bought some Rocky Patel edge corojos and San Andres. Received them Saturday, lit up on Thursday and am not getting the flavor experience I know and love from buying these at a B&M. Burn on the corojo is pretty horrific as well. Do they need to rest longer? They are pretty much flavorless so I am worried they lost their oils and won’t get their flavor back. Did I just get a bad batch or should this pretty much be corrected after a few weeks of rest with a Boveda 65rh in my airtight tupperdor? Have a 72 rh as well but fear that will be too wet and then I’ll have cat pee on top of a dog turd…..

1 month rest minimum as others have said. Sometimes that resolves flavor issues, usually resolves burn issues. Also are u sure u didn't get "fumas"? I see a lot of Edge fumas being sold online which are the same as seconds, not the original. Can be confusing when new to cigar shopping online cause wtf is a fuma?
KingoftheCove Offline
#32 Posted: Sun, Oct 29 2023, 7:29 AM EST
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
1 month rest minimum as others have said. Sometimes that resolves flavor issues, usually resolves burn issues. Also are u sure u didn't get "fumas"? I see a lot of Edge fumas being sold online which are the same as seconds, not the original. Can be confusing when new to cigar shopping online cause wtf is a fuma?

Think
Purdy sure “fumas” are short filler cigars, not “seconds”.
Could be Rocky trying the Papas Fritas route, using Edge trimmings………..which by the way, is hilarious, as if Rocky scraps are worth saving and wrapping up……Brick wall
deadeyedick Offline
#33 Posted: Sun, Oct 29 2023, 7:34 AM EST
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Isn't RP seconds an oxymoron?Think
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