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"Oath Of Office"?
RiverRatRuss Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 09-02-2022
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WoW... Piss Poor Judgement on Trump and his Legal team here!!!
"Oath Of Office"? I believe when Obumer was elected many complained about him putting his hand on the Bible and the Koran during the Ceremony? d'oh!

https://tinyurl.com/3b34b2m5

In a November 27 legal filing submitted to the Colorado Supreme Court, attorneys representing former President Donald Trump made a unique argument in justifying that the US Constitution's insurrection clause doesn't apply to their client.

The clause, which is in Section Three of the 14th Amendment, states that "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." Trump's legal team argued that as president, their client is exempt from that language.

"The framers excluded the office of President from Section Three purposefully. Section Three does not apply, because the presidency is not an office 'under the United States,' and President Trump did not take an oath 'to support the Constitution of the United States,'" the filing read.

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The filing also argues that the events of January 6, 2021 did not constitute an insurrection, even though Trump supporters attacked the US Capitol in an attempt to disrupt Congress' official certification of the 2020 presidential election in an hours-long riot that left several dead and hundreds more injured.

"Wow in a legal proceeding trump is now arguing he didn’t violate the 14th Amendment by inciting the Jan 6 insurrection because he 'never took an oath to support the Constitution of the United States,'" Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-New Jersey) tweeted. "This treacherous criminal is head of the republican party."

Trump did in fact take such an oath. The presidential oath of office — which all presidents take on Inauguration Day — explicitly mentions the Constitution.

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States," the oath reads.

READ MORE: Colorado judge's ruling makes no argument that Trump 'didn't engage in an insurrection': legal expert

The matter before the Colorado Supreme Court concerns an attempt to remove the former president from the 2024 ballot on the grounds that he is ineligible under the insurrection clause due to Trump's involvement in the January 6 riot. While a judge ruled in Trump's favor, that decision has been appealed by watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
RayR Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 07-20-2020
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Well...Trumps legal eagles have a point if you consider the wurds.

Quote:
"The clause, which is in Section Three of the 14th Amendment, states that "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof." Trump's legal team argued that as president, their client is exempt from that language.

"The framers excluded the office of President from Section Three purposefully. Section Three does not apply, because the presidency is not an office 'under the United States,' and President Trump did not take an oath 'to support the Constitution of the United States,'" the filing read."


Is the President an "officer of the United States" for purposes of Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment?

JOSH BLACKMAN | 1.20.2021 12:00 PM

https://reason.com/volokh/2021/01/20/is-the-president-an-officer-of-the-united-states-for-purposes-of-section-3-of-the-fourteenth-amendment/


Besides all that, taking an oath to defend the Constitution never prevented any officeholder from willfully violating that oath and without repercussion as the words in the Constitution have been left up to arbitrary interpretation for partisan purposes, therefore rendering them meaningless and the Constitution toothless. The proof is that most of what laws and dicktates that come out of D.C. are clearly unconstitutional if one were to interpret the meaning of those words as intended by the framers during the ratification debates.




MACS Offline
#3 Posted:
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Insurrection ain't what it was, either... those who believed the claptrap need to watch the video the lefties never wanted you to see.

And once again, nothing will be done to those doing all the lying... or to the FBI... or their plants... or the cop that shot Ashley Babbit in the face for no damn reason.
HockeyDad Offline
#4 Posted:
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January 6. December 7. September 11. Pretty much all the same thing.
frankj1 Offline
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98.2% of politicians aren't oath keepers...









see what I did there?
BuckyB93 Offline
#6 Posted:
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^ Understatement


RayR Offline
#7 Posted:
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[quote=frankj1]98.2% of politicians aren't oath breakers.

FIFY









Mr. Jones Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 06-12-2005
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Sounds like a

SNEAKY RAT **** LAWYERS WAY TO WEASEL OUT OF A CRIME THAT WAS COMMITTED BY AN ORANGE MENG BUT IS TRYING TO WEASEL HIS WAY OUT OF A VONVICTION AND A QUESTIONABLE MEANS AT BEST....

THE WAY I READ IT...

ANYONE ELSE IN THE MILITARY, LAW ENFORCEMENT OR THE THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT HAS TO BE CULPABLE AND GET A GUILTY AS F#*K CRIME COMMITED SENTENCE BUT ??? ONLY THE PRESIDENT IS IMMUNE TO???

F#_KING BUNCH OF BULLCRAP AND B.S....

NO SPECIAL TREATMENT SHOULD BE AFFORDED ANY ONE PERSON...THE Law applied to all u.s. citizens..no special treatment...

( Except for any and A.L.L. FBI- SPECIAL SURVEILLANCE GROUP DIVISION AGENTS...THEY CAN BREAK ANY LOCAL, STATE OR FEDERAL LAWS AND THEY CAN MURDER ANYONE WITHOUT REPERCUSSIONS AT ALL)
LAST I CHECKED / TRUMP AINT NO FBI-SSG AGENT...

The only people who skate on anything they do are FORIEGN DIPLOMATS AND THEIR FAMILIES IN FORIEGN COUNTRIES....THOSE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SKATE SCOTT FREE BY WRITTEN LAWS....ENFOCED FOR CENTURIES ON END AND HAS UNREFUTABLE FREE RIGHTS WITHOUT PERSECUTION.
Mr. Jones Offline
#9 Posted:
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Rfenst

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