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Rfenst: Defamation of Character
8trackdisco Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 11-06-2004
Posts: 60,090
Should have asked this question years ago.

What standard is there or where is the bar when it comes to being able to sue for it?
How is Defamation of Character and Slander alike and different?

Trying to learn about how the law applies to public officials and candidates.
Gene363 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,838
Interesting questions, I found this on Legal Zoom:

https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/differences-between-defamation-slander-and-libel#:~:text=Libel%20and%20slander%20are%20both,be%20made%20in%20any%20medium.

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What is defamation?

Defamation is a false statement presented as a fact that causes injury or damage to the character of the person it is about. An example is “Tom Smith stole money from his employer.” If this is untrue and if making the statement damages Tom’s reputation or ability to work, it is defamation. The person whose reputation has been damaged by the false statement can bring a defamation lawsuit.

Defamation of character happens when something untrue and damaging is presented as a fact to someone else. Making the statement only to the person the statement is about (“Tom, you’re a thief”) is not defamation because it does not damage that person’s character in anyone else’s eyes.

Legal difference between opinion and defamation

There is an important difference in defamation law between stating an opinion and defaming someone. Saying, “I think Cindy is annoying” is an opinion and is something that can’t ever really be empirically proven true or false. Saying “I think Cindy stole a car” is still an opinion but implies she committed a crime. If the accusation is untrue, then it will defame her. This is why the news media is so careful to use the word “allegedly” when talking about people accused of a crime. This way they merely report someone else’s accusation without stating their own opinion.

A crucial part of a defamation case is that the person makes the false statement with a certain kind of intent.


The statement must have been made with knowledge that it was untrue or with reckless disregard for the truth (meaning the person who said it questioned the truthfulness but said it anyhow). If the person being defamed is a private citizen and not a celebrity or public figure, defamation can also be proven when the statement was made with negligence as to determining its truth (the person speaking should have known it was false or should have questioned it). This means it is easier to prove defamation when you are a private citizen. There is a higher standard required if you are a public figure.

Some states have laws that automatically make certain statements defamation. Any false statement that a person has committed a serious crime, has a serious infectious disease, or is incompetent in his profession are automatically defamatory under these laws.

What is the difference between slander and libel?

Libel and slander are both types of defamation. Libel is an untrue defamatory statement that is made in writing. Slander is an untrue defamatory statement that is spoken orally. The difference between defamation and slander is that a defamatory statement can be made in any medium. It could be in a blog comment or spoken in a speech or said on television. Libelous acts only occur when a statement is made in writing (digital statements count as writing) and slanderous statements are only made orally.

You may have heard of seditious libel. The Sedition Act of 1798 made it a crime to print anything false about the government, president, or Congress. The Supreme Court later modified this when it enacted the rule that a statement against a public figure is libel only if it known to be false or the speaker had a reckless disregard for the truth when making it.

Damages for defamation

Suing for slander, libel, or defamation brings a civil suit in a state court and alleges that under the slander laws or libel laws of that state the person who brought about the lawsuit was damaged by the conduct of the person who made the false statement. A libel or slander lawsuit seeks monetary damages for harm caused by the statement, such as pain and suffering, damage to the plaintiff’s reputation, lost wages or a loss of ability to earn a living, and personal emotional reactions such as shame, humiliation, and anxiety.

Defending a defamation case

If you are accused of defamation, slander, or libel, truth is an absolute defense to the allegation. If what you said is true, there is no case. If the case is brought by a public figure and you can prove you were only negligent in weighing whether the statement was false, that can be a defense as well.

Defamation is an area of law that protects people’s reputations by allowing them recourse if false statements are made about them. This type of civil case is an effective way to protect your reputation.
Abrignac Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
Posts: 17,327
8trackdisco wrote:
Should have asked this question years ago.

What standard is there or where is the bar when it comes to being able to sue for it?
How is Defamation of Character and Slander alike and different?

Trying to learn about how the law applies to public officials and candidates.


Since they are considered “public” the bar is much higher in terms of being able to pursue an action.
8trackdisco Offline
#4 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
Since they are considered “public” the bar is much higher in terms of being able to pursue an action.


Seems politicians should be held to a higher, not lower standard. Or at least that of a common man.
Abrignac Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 02-24-2012
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8trackdisco wrote:
Seems politicians should be held to a higher, not lower standard. Or at least that of a common man.


Kinda what I meant. Public officials have a harder time proving they were libeled/slandered.
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
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You can try to charge a public official but if they’re old, feeble and affable then the prosecutor will let it go. Then you gotta go civil, there they’re gonna bleed you to death with taxpayer funded lawyers.

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