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Mr. Jones Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Feb 17 2024, 9:49 PM EST
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Bwuhahahahaha!!!

$350 million + $100 interest charges

Fo' hunnert & fiddy million for the orange meng...
I bet dollars to donuts ERIC AND DON JR will embezzle their $ 4 million fines from this fund gauraaaNnnteeeed
aLLedGeDly

Poor MAGA peeps gotta spend their hard earned money to bail out a billionaire...BIZARRO WORLD INHABITANTS ABIDE..
ZRX1200 Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Feb 17 2024, 10:20 PM EST
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I donated all the stolen hut money I could spare.
8trackdisco Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Feb 17 2024, 10:55 PM EST
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Mr. Jones wrote:
T
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U
M
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Bwuhahahahaha!!!

$350 million + $100 interest charges

Fo' hunnert & fiddy million for the orange meng...
I bet dollars to donuts ERIC AND DON JR will embezzle their $ 4 million fines from this fund gauraaaNnnteeeed
aLLedGeDly

Poor MAGA peeps gotta spend their hard earned money to bail out a billionaire...BIZARRO WORLD INHABITANTS ABIDE..


It is a wicked smart business plan.
- poor gullible people make up a good part of his base.
- poor gullible people feel he is the only way out.
- poor gullible people with a little more money send him their money- making them poor.
- he has then made more poor people, which builds his base.

Got to give him 100% credit. Goal, strategy, tactics, execution. Perrrrfect.
RayR Online
#4 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 12:40 PM EST
Joined: 07-20-2020
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The GOFUNDME was set up by Elena Cardone of the Miami-Dade area, the wife of real estate investor Grant Cardone.

She said, “When you can allow this to happen to one property owner, this can happen to everyone,” she said. “Now its about, I have no other choice but to stand up and represent property owners and business owners in America.”

She's right, and making a valid statement. If a corrupt state like NY can pull something like this on Trump and his family, they can pull this on anyone they want to heist and destroy for political reasons.

Even MSNBC host Katy Tur mentioned that in the 70-year existence of the legal rule Judge Arthur Engoron used on Trump, it was never used against someone who has yet to be proven of doing harm to any individual or entity with their practices.
Brewha Offline
#5 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 3:39 PM EST
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“A MAGA supporter and their money are soon parted.”
frankj1 Offline
#6 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 4:24 PM EST
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who here wants to volunteer to misrepresent financials to a bank and see what happens?
RayR Online
#7 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 4:34 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
who here wants to volunteer to misrepresent financials to a bank and see what happens?


If the bank agreed to the terms and says there was no harm done to them, how can you call it misrepresentin'? Eh?
tailgater Offline
#8 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 4:47 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
who here wants to volunteer to misrepresent financials to a bank and see what happens?


Frank.
You and I and everyone who can read this knows precisely what would happen.

You wouldn't get the loan.
Period.
End of story.

Banks don't ask you what the value is. They use auditors and you pay for it. Right there on your loan papers.

If you falsify value, you won't get the loan.
If you lie about income, you won't get the loan.
If you lie about assests, banks may not know or care enough to check on it. But if Frankie T were to ask for a $50MM loan and you claimed you could back it up with your cigar collection, we can all rest assured that they would send an expert to confirm.

These banks were throwing money at the Donald.
Now because it's trendy and there is a political hack judge and AG, they will do whatever they can to nail him.

Remember, everybody KNEW that Trump was guilty.
It just took some time to determine of what.

Nazis. And the libs are compliant.

MACS Offline
#9 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 5:06 PM EST
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^^^^

https://tenor.com/view/hes-right-you-know-morgan-freeman-he-is-right-gif-9789067

He's right, ya know...
frankj1 Offline
#10 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 5:28 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
If the bank agreed to the terms and says there was no harm done to them, how can you call it misrepresentin'? Eh?

tellya what.
Walk into a bank.
Pass the teller a note demanding a chunk of money.
Teller sets off alarm.
You run away empty handed.
Never actually stole the money...are you guilty of anything?
MACS Offline
#11 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 7:23 PM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
tellya what.
Walk into a bank.
Pass the teller a note demanding a chunk of money.
Teller sets off alarm.
You run away empty handed.
Never actually stole the money...are you guilty of anything?


Well... now that we're making false equivalencies... LOL
frankj1 Offline
#12 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 7:33 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Well... now that we're making false equivalencies... LOL

good point, Trump did get the money...HA!
MACS Offline
#13 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 8:08 PM EST
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Now you're just being obtuse. Tail explained it succinctly, and you know he's 100% correct.
frankj1 Offline
#14 Posted: Sun, Feb 18 2024, 10:52 PM EST
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for whatever reasons at that point in history, one of the two or three banks in the entire world that would still extend credit to Trump accepted this...he claimed that his condo was three times the size it really was. 30,000 square feet, instead of 10,000 square feet.

I don't know why for sure. You don't care why. Tail says it doesn't matter that none of us could pull this off.

It's called fraud if anyone else does it, not victimless crime. And when it involves millions, it's massive fraud.

To me, the last unknown is why exactly did DooshBank really make the loan(s)? Critical thinking in action.
RayR Online
#15 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2024, 10:38 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
for whatever reasons at that point in history, one of the two or three banks in the entire world that would still extend credit to Trump accepted this...he claimed that his condo was three times the size it really was. 30,000 square feet, instead of 10,000 square feet.

I don't know why for sure. You don't care why. Tail says it doesn't matter that none of us could pull this off.

It's called fraud if anyone else does it, not victimless crime. And when it involves millions, it's massive fraud.

To me, the last unknown is why exactly did DooshBank really make the loan(s)? Critical thinking in action.


So the bank was so dumb that they couldn't find out the actual square footage and Trump took advantage of their dumbness?
I thought that would be easy to find in the property records.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2024, 10:47 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
good point, Trump did get the money...HA!



And paid it back! HAHA!!
RayR Online
#17 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2024, 11:07 AM EST
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This is the gist of the persecution by Attorney General Letitia "GET TRUMP" James and Judge Arthur “UNHINGED" Engoron.

Turley: Obscene Award Against Trump Is Testing New York's Legal Integrity

Authored by Jonathan Turley, op-ed via The Hill,

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In laying the foundation for his sweeping decision against former President Donald Trump, Judge Arthur Engoron observed that “this is a venial sin, not a mortal sin.” Yet, at $355 million, one would think that Engoron had found Trump to be the source of Original Sin.

The judgment against Trump (and his family and associates) was met with a level of unrestrained celebration by many in New York that bordered on the indecent. Attorney General Letitia James declared not only that Trump would be barred from doing business in New York for three years, but that the damages would come to roughly $460 million once interest was included.

That makes the damages against Trump greater than the gross national product of some countries, including Micronesia. Yet the court admitted that not a single dollar was lost by the banks from these dealings. Indeed, witnesses testified that they wanted to do more business with Trump, who was described as a “whale” client with high yield business opportunities.

Undervaluing and overvaluing property is a longstanding practice in New York real estate. The forms submitted by the Trump organization cautioned the banks to do their own estimates and the loans were paid in full and on time. Yet, the New York law used by James is a curiosity because it does not actually require a victim. Indeed, everyone can make ample profits and still allow for an investigation into “repeated fraudulent or illegal acts.”

Having campaigned on bagging Trump on any basis, James turned the law into a virtual license to hunt him down along with his family and his associates.

Engoron proved the perfect judge for the case. The opinion itself seems almost cathartic for the jurist who struggled with Trump inside and outside of court. In the judgment, Engoron fulfilled Oscar Wilde’s rule that the only way to be rid of temptation is to yield to it. He ordered everything short of throwing Trump into a wood chipper.

More...

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/turley-obscene-award-against-trump-testing-new-yorks-legal-integrity
MACS Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2024, 11:27 AM EST
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frankj1 wrote:
for whatever reasons at that point in history, one of the two or three banks in the entire world that would still extend credit to Trump accepted this...he claimed that his condo was three times the size it really was. 30,000 square feet, instead of 10,000 square feet.

I don't know why for sure. You don't care why. Tail says it doesn't matter that none of us could pull this off.

It's called fraud if anyone else does it, not victimless crime. And when it involves millions, it's massive fraud.

To me, the last unknown is why exactly did DooshBank really make the loan(s)? Critical thinking in action.


Is it called fraud, though? If the loan was paid back... who was defrauded? Of what were they defrauded?

If you can't see why they brought this suit... waaaaay after the fact... I don't know what to tell you. You don't like him. I understand. I absolutely despise Biden, and there's a whole lot more proof of his wrongdoing and not one thing is done about it.
Brewha Offline
#19 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2024, 1:28 PM EST
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Yep - it is called fraud.
MACS Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2024, 1:32 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Yep - it is called fraud.


Okay, so who was defrauded and how? And of what were they defrauded?

Money was borrowed and paid back.
Brewha Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2024, 1:45 PM EST
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MACS wrote:
Okay, so who was defrauded and how? And of what were they defrauded?

Money was borrowed and paid back.


Fraud; wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain does not require a victim to be a crime.

Just like reckless endangerment - you need not kill anyone to have commited a crime.

Or speeding.

Tax evasion <- now that's a relevant one.....
RayR Online
#22 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2024, 3:14 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Fraud; wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain. does not require a victim to be a crime

Just like reckless endangerment - you need not kill anyone to have commited a crime.

Or speeding.

Tax evasion <- now that's a relevant one.....


You Copy n' Pasted part of that from the Office of Inspector General. website which relates to gubment business.. The rest you pulled out of your azz and is irrelevant to the Demo-Bolshevik witch trial.

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What is considered fraud, waste, or abuse?

Submitted by webmasterigim on Mon, 04/16/2018 - 14:16

Fraud is defined as the wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain. Fraud includes false representation of fact, making false statements, or by concealment of information.

Waste is defined as the thoughtless or careless expenditure, mismanagement, or abuse of resources to the detriment (or potential detriment) of the U.S. government. Waste also includes incurring unnecessary costs resulting from inefficient or ineffective practices, systems, or controls.

Abuse is defined as excessive or improper use of a thing, or to use something in a manner contrary to the natural or legal rules for its use. Abuse can occur in financial or non-financial settings.

https://oig.usaid.gov/node/221
Brewha Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Feb 19 2024, 3:46 PM EST
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RayR wrote:
You Copy n' Pasted part of that from the Office of Inspector General. website which relates to gubment business.. The rest you pulled out of your azz and is irrelevant to the Demo-Bolshevik witch trial.




Wow - you do pretty good for a kid on an X-Box!
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