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B&M Price gouging
Mraia Offline
#1 Posted:
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Every year when raises and bonuses come I take the day off and treat myself to something. So this year I went to one of the bigger shops here on long island and spent a few bucks.
I did it willingly, as I just wanted to buy stuff then and there. But....
Johnny Tobacconaut...$12.50. $8.55 online
Assorted Fuents that are about $8 to $10 on line were all about $14
couple of Tatuaje...same kind of markups.

Now like I said, I bought these so Im complicit but come on! Im all for the community business but a few cigars ended up costing about $110 and I could have gotten the same online for $65 to $70. And as for the experience...I wont miss being continuously asked by the owner if "anything caught my eye" and trying to get me to buy a whole lot of Opus X that cost around $48 a pop by telling me how rare they are. He had a full display case of them, so they arent rare in his store...

Im not going to make a habit of this anymore.

ram27bat
drglnc Offline
#2 Posted:
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Mraia wrote:
Every year when raises and bonuses come I take the day off and treat myself to something. So this year I went to one of the bigger shops here on long island and spent a few bucks.
I did it willingly, as I just wanted to buy stuff then and there. But....
Johnny Tobacconaut...$12.50. $8.55 online
Assorted Fuents that are about $8 to $10 on line were all about $14
couple of Tatuaje...same kind of markups.

Now like I said, I bought these so Im complicit but come on! Im all for the community business but a few cigars ended up costing about $110 and I could have gotten the same online for $65 to $70. And as for the experience...I wont miss being continuously asked by the owner if "anything caught my eye" and trying to get me to buy a whole lot of Opus X that cost around $48 a pop by telling me how rare they are. He had a full display case of them, so they arent rare in his store...

I'm not going to make a habit of this anymore.

ram27bat


Not just Cigars, Buying ANYTHING from B&M stores are more expensive. that is not going to change. if you want the instant gratification of getting it now, if you want to see the environment and verify the humidity levels and quality of the storage are good, or want the in person ability to browse and shop you will have to pay more. If you want the more impersonal experience and cheaper price... and don't care that you may get cigars packed with no humidity control and in some cases no packaging material to protect the cigars (yes, i know smaller more reliable companies package better, they are also more expensive) shop online...
Telecaster52 Offline
#3 Posted:
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I like to go to the local B&M. Usually good conversation.

I don't buy bulk from them you can find it cheaper online but for a single of something I want to try I come out better.
10 or 20 bucks. When I get online I have to buy enough to get free shipping. Lol
danmdevries Offline
#4 Posted:
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B&M in some states can be decent. Not by me. First off is the b&m markup, then huge taxes on tobacco. A $3 Oliva online is $6-8 at the shpo, then about $5-6 in tax.

There was a shpo I used to hit up in Knoxville when I'd drive south and always dropped a couple hundos. Prices were the same or better than full price online retailers but they always had like 10% off 5 20% off 10. I'd often buy a basket of super premiums. One time I bought 4 Opus, leaving 3 in the box, and some other stuff. The opus were $20ea dude said go get the rest and take the box I'll take $100 for 7. Deal.

Last time I stopped at the shpo I took 2 mid-level cigars, and paid $40. Would've been $10 on sale online maybe $20-24 full price.
LeeBot Offline
#5 Posted:
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The most recent cigar I purchased at a b&m was a Padrón 6000. I was expecting to pay may $10 or so, it being a b&m, but it was $15! I almost put it back. I think I'm going to limit my instore purchases for cigars that I am going to smoke at the shpo. I figure I'm paying for the privilege of sitting there taking up space.

I like supporting local businesses like that, but when I do, I know I'm paying more than I have to. The last box I bought in a b&m was some EPC Pledge's about 3 years ago, and they were $40 more than I would have paid online. I'm not doing that anymore.
Mraia Offline
#6 Posted:
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yup. I agree with all the above points. For a few singles I DO like to go to the Shpo, but dont want to spend almost double the cost of the online. I honestly havent had any packing issues with any of the online sites, but Im pretty sure I will eventually.
Huzza3045 Offline
#7 Posted:
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I usually only go to B&M shops to have a nice smoke inside and some good conversation. I don’t think I’d ever consider buying bulk there.
JGRAZ Offline
#8 Posted:
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I typically try to avoid NJ B&M's when I can. My locals are not only priced bad but the selection is horrible in a couple and the one with a good selection has an owner that just hovers over you constantly. I will usually head over the bridge into PA to a store that I thoroughly enjoy, better price and selection then anything in NJ and just as close. If I'm really up to it I'll take the 2 hour drive to the mothership megastore.

Lee, not sure if you get out of Philly often, but there's a good shop in Yardly that I like a lot. Might be a little hike for you though.
LeeBot Offline
#9 Posted:
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I did not know about the Yardley store. PM me.
deadeyedick Offline
#10 Posted:
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I don't mind dropping a little coin occasionally at some of my shpo's that protect me. Nice to have air conditioning, a big comfy leather chair and multiple TV on the wall when the weather is bad on the home patio.

Even the monkey has some weird prices. Recently looked at a cigar I wanted:

5er were $25 x 5 = $125
Box of 25 were $138

WTF is that?
Jakethesnake86 Offline
#11 Posted:
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I get a box of pepin blue toro from my shpo. I can dig through to the old boxes that way. Last box was 2016. I like those aged.
tonygraz Offline
#12 Posted:
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They need Frank - he's good with numbas. And he might alphabetize the selection.
jeebling Offline
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The closest place for me to buy a handmade “premium” is 30 minute drive and the premiums , if I’m using the term correctly. Are Punch and Montecristo. They have a few other cigars but I’m pretty sure they’re not long filler hand made cigars. They are prepackaged in 4 or 5 packs in a humidity controlled bag hanging on the wall. I believe there must be a cigar shop in Tyler, TX which is 45 minutes from here and I am never over in that direction. When I have to go to VA hospital in Dallas there are several high end cigar store / lounge B&M and I pay for the privilege of shopping there. I will say that I enjoy going there, the service is excellent, and the cigars are in tip-top condition. I’ve had great conversation (just simple chitchat) with the employees and they are a fount of knowledge and seem happy to answer all of my questions. In my situation, where I’m trying to smoke the widest variety of cigars possible to grow my palate and enjoyment of cigars, it is cost prohibitive to buy everything in the B&M.
Stogie1020 Offline
#14 Posted:
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I also think it depends on the place a lot. The spot I have been going to recently is also a restaurant/liquor store (but also has a well stocked humidor and very nice smoking lounge) and they consistently only upcharge a buck or two for cigars (even premiums) over regular prices at a page/neptune type place.


Timing may also be an issue for you. I bet your shop had ZERO discounts around "raise/bonus" time because they new everyone was flush with cash.
JGKAMIN Offline
#15 Posted:
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Huzza3045 wrote:
I usually only go to B&M shops to have a nice smoke inside and some good conversation. I don’t think I’d ever consider buying bulk there.

I always said the same thing, i went into my my favorite local shop and the last thing i needed was a cigar, i had plenty at home. I went in and enjoyed the company, hanging out with the other ‘usuals’ and smoking in some friendly confines. Herfing
ZRX1200 Offline
#16 Posted:
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Man does it suck when your shpo doesn’t protect you.

*laughs is superiority*
Palama Offline
#17 Posted:
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Not too many “real” B&M cigar / tobacco shops here. And by “real” I mean a standalone shop basically devoted to the smoking experience. Well-stocked, properly kept humidor(s) and an area to smoke a cigar. At best only a couple would qualify but there are a few adult beverage places that have decent humidors but none of those have an area to smoke. With our 50% cigar tax, I haven’t bought any singles in close to 10 years. I will, however, buy Hawaii exclusives almost everytime they’re released.
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"ended up costing about $110 and I could have gotten the same online for $65 to $70." .................The STG companies (C-Bid, CI, Cigars.com, Thompsons etc) have giant warehouses moving cigars by the ****load. That B&M probably gets sporadic business, has rent or a mortgage and has to cover their own retirement and benefits, as well as heat and air condition that shop. I like the lower prices of online but realize the little shop owner cannot match the mega operation prices. I remember Lew Rothman telling us thirty years ago that you can sit on cigars for a year waiting to get your desired profit margin or you can sell them cheaper and make it up in volume with rapid turnover of inventory and keep reinvesting the cash flow. You need a steady flow of customers to do that. It is a David and Goliath situation since the internet was developed..
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
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After reading this thread I appreciate my local shpo even more. It's a 2 mile drive, USMC combat veteran owned, Great ppl, always packed, nice recliners, several big TVs, free 8ft. pool table in a seperate room with 6 couches, and he sells cigars all at MSRP and gives a 10% discount to military, vets, and 1st responders and a 20% discount to everyone on 20+ sticks and discount includes hardware/merch.
He doesn't sell food or liquor but its BYOB. Just cigars and lots of them. Huge 2-room walk in humi +4 lg cabinet humis. Probably 400 facings. Owner is a Vietnam vet who gave a limb amongst other sacrifices for this great country and is now rockin an awesome robotic arm and hand. Dude can give the bird and make his hand rotate 360° it's hilarious.
LeeBot Offline
#20 Posted:
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^Damn, now I'm jelly.
ZRX1200 Offline
#21 Posted:
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Cameroon

Overhead to profit ratio and taxes….
jeebling Offline
#22 Posted:
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
After reading this thread I appreciate my local shpo even more. It's a 2 mile drive, USMC combat veteran owned, Great ppl, always packed, nice recliners, several big TVs, free 8ft. pool table in a seperate room with 6 couches, and he sells cigars all at MSRP and gives a 10% discount to military, vets, and 1st responders and a 20% discount to everyone on 20+ sticks and discount includes hardware/merch.
He doesn't sell food or liquor but its BYOB. Just cigars and lots of them. Huge 2-room walk in humi +4 lg cabinet humis. Probably 400 facings. Owner is a Vietnam vet who gave a limb amongst other sacrifices for this great country and is now rockin an awesome robotic arm and hand. Dude can give the bird and make his hand rotate 360° it's hilarious.


That is awesome. I’m glad the Vet has a thriving business and I’m glad you get to appreciate it.
PapaWhiskey Offline
#23 Posted:
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
After reading this thread I appreciate my local shpo even more. It's a 2 mile drive, USMC combat veteran owned, Great ppl, always packed, nice recliners, several big TVs, free 8ft. pool table in a seperate room with 6 couches, and he sells cigars all at MSRP and gives a 10% discount to military, vets, and 1st responders and a 20% discount to everyone on 20+ sticks and discount includes hardware/merch.
He doesn't sell food or liquor but its BYOB. Just cigars and lots of them. Huge 2-room walk in humi +4 lg cabinet humis. Probably 400 facings. Owner is a Vietnam vet who gave a limb amongst other sacrifices for this great country and is now rockin an awesome robotic arm and hand. Dude can give the bird and make his hand rotate 360° it's hilarious.


What's the name of this place? I want to go. We should have a BOTL gathering at this place.
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#24 Posted:
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PapaWhiskey wrote:
What's the name of this place? I want to go. We should have a BOTL gathering at this place.

Dirty Dog Cigar Shoppe
McKeesport, PA (30 mins from Pittsburgh)
KingoftheCove Offline
#25 Posted:
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deadeyedick wrote:
I don't mind dropping a little coin occasionally at some of my shpo's that protect me. Nice to have air conditioning, a big comfy leather chair and multiple TV on the wall when the weather is bad on the home patio.

Even the monkey has some weird prices. Recently looked at a cigar I wanted:

5er were $25 x 5 = $125
Box of 25 were $138

WTF is that?

Da box ain’t free DED…
jeebling Offline
#26 Posted:
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
Dirty Dog Cigar Shoppe
McKeesport, PA (30 mins from Pittsburgh)

Dirty Dog. Love it! Sounds like I might fit in there.
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#27 Posted:
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Everybody fits in there, and all walks of life come in there.
It's a place you don't mind spending money. On the topic of this thread, you'll always find any product cheaper online because of the lack of overhead that comes with owning a storefront.
Mraia Offline
#28 Posted:
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I agree the B&M will be and should be more. Not practically double though!
Still, despite my post, I do like roaming up and down the aisles of the shop. It’s a big place, and they have a ton of selection. It’s just the markups are tough.
KingoftheCove Offline
#29 Posted:
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I wish I had a shoo within a reasonable distance.

Mr. Jones Offline
#30 Posted:
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I have several shop's within 20-30 minutes...
And one about 2 miles as a crow flies...it has comfy leather chairs in the back, several tv's, refrigerator( and BYOB LOCKEES) bathroom , air cleaners, decent cigar prices but way higher than Cbid...

The main problem is.....

It's always filled with cops and detectives....who have access to call other on duty cops...i.e. you drink too much? IT WOULD BE SO EASY TO DIME YOU OUT " IN REAL TIME" AND GET POPPED WITH A D.U.I. IF YOU PISS THEM OFF...several of them.worked with the FBI-SSG IN 2013-16 WHEN LANCASTER WAS CRAWLING WITH FEDS STAYING AT HOTELS, EATING AT RESTAURANTS...I'M PRETTY SURE THEY DONT LIKE ME AND I KNOW FOF A FACT ....THEY A.L.L. SIGNED " NON-DISCLOSURE agreements" with those psychopath FBI-SSG FIELD CHIEFS...HENCE MAJOR ANIMOSITY BETWIXT ME AND THEM and I'm guessing things would go SOUTH QUICKLY If THEY WERE HALF DRUNK and me invading their club house space....I'm very leery about even stepping foot into that den of thieves...


SO I DONT...

THATS WHY I DONT GO THERE EVEN THOUGH IT IS SO FREAKIN CLOSE...
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
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Mr. Jones wrote:
I have several shop's within 20-30 minutes...
And one about 2 miles as a crow flies...it has comfy leather chairs in the back, several tv's, refrigerator( and BYOB LOCKEES) bathroom , air cleaners, decent cigar prices but way higher than Cbid...
The main problem is.....
It's always filled with cops and detectives.

You wouldn't like my local shpo. Cops, detectives, FBI agents, CIA operatives named John, and Special ops military come in all the time.
Palama Offline
#32 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
I have several shop's within 20-30 minutes...
And one about 2 miles as a crow flies...it has comfy leather chairs in the back, several tv's, refrigerator( and BYOB LOCKEES) bathroom , air cleaners, decent cigar prices but way higher than Cbid...

The main problem is.....

It's always filled with cops and detectives....who have access to call other on duty cops...i.e. you drink too much? IT WOULD BE SO EASY TO DIME YOU OUT " IN REAL TIME" AND GET POPPED WITH A D.U.I. IF YOU PISS THEM OFF...several of them.worked with the FBI-SSG IN 2013-16 WHEN LANCASTER WAS CRAWLING WITH FEDS STAYING AT HOTELS, EATING AT RESTAURANTS...I'M PRETTY SURE THEY DONT LIKE ME AND I KNOW FOF A FACT ....THEY A.L.L. SIGNED " NON-DISCLOSURE agreements" with those psychopath FBI-SSG FIELD CHIEFS...HENCE MAJOR ANIMOSITY BETWIXT ME AND THEM and I'm guessing things would go SOUTH QUICKLY If THEY WERE HALF DRUNK and me invading their club house space....I'm very leery about even stepping foot into that den of thieves...


SO I DONT...

THATS WHY I DONT GO THERE EVEN THOUGH IT IS SO FREAKIN CLOSE...


You’re not a master of disguises? 🥸
PapaWhiskey Offline
#33 Posted:
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MidnightToker( • )( • ) wrote:
Dirty Dog Cigar Shoppe
McKeesport, PA (30 mins from Pittsburgh)


Thanks brother, If I'm ever in the area I'll be sure to stop in. Sounds like my kind of place.
Mr. Jones Offline
#34 Posted:
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Midnight toker????

Have you ever been.to

"HARRY' S PLACE"
RESTAURANT/ BAR IN DARLINGTON, PA
ON EAST PALESTINE ROAD
SORTA NEAR EAST PALESTINE, PA ?

THE FRIED FISH DINNER used to be awesome!!
The fish hung of both sides of the 12" plate!!
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#35 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
Midnight toker????

Have you ever been.to

"HARRY' S PLACE"
RESTAURANT/ BAR IN DARLINGTON, PA
ON EAST PALESTINE ROAD
SORTA NEAR EAST PALESTINE, PA ?

THE FRIED FISH DINNER used to be awesome!!
The fish hung of both sides of the 12" plate!!

No, but we have plenty of restaurants that do the same with their fish sammies. They give you 2-3 filets each a footlong on a tiny hamburger bun. Some places use a sub roll but not many. Basically you cut one in half for the bun, and take the other 2 and a half home with you where there is more bread.
Mr. Jones Offline
#36 Posted:
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I don't smoke with "so called" law enforcement officers who signed FBI-SSG NON - DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS...

NOT A SMART THING TO DO...

SO I CHOSE NOT TO...
EVEN IF IT IS RAINING FOR 5 DAYS STRAIGHT...
325AIR Offline
#37 Posted:
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There's a crappy cigar shop not too far from me that used to be great. But, as often happens, a change in ownership turned the place into an unkempt mess with poor stock and apathetic employees.

I looked around, didn't see anything new or interesting but didn't want to waste a trip. I grabbed a $20 Davidoff Nicaragua robusto tubo, took it to the counter - $32.50. I won't be going back there.
Palama Offline
#38 Posted:
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I lead a rather sheltered life. I’ve never smoked in a local b&m. HOnizuka’s or my garage has always been the places for us to smoke, drink, eat pupus and talk story. The only thing we’re missing is a TV but no biggie, we’re there for the conversation. We’re also sure not to run into any FBI - SSG types that could be looking for info on Mr. Jones.

But, I have enjoyed Casa Fuente (…despite the rather high cost of cigars and drinks there…). Also got to smoke a fresh roll with Delta at a shpo in Cali.
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#39 Posted:
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^ Well, to be fair, you kinda live where it's perfect weather EVERY DAMN DAY to be outside smoking a cigar...

Some of us live in Hades, so some nice AC at the Shpo from time to time is a treat.
MidnightToker( • )( • ) Offline
#40 Posted:
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Mr. Jones wrote:
I don't smoke with "so called" law enforcement officers who signed FBI-SSG NON - DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS...

NOT A SMART THING TO DO...

SO I CHOSE NOT TO...
EVEN IF IT IS RAINING FOR 5 DAYS STRAIGHT...

Most of the SSG are civilian ex military. Only a small portion are FBI agents.
Palama Offline
#41 Posted:
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Stogie1020 wrote:
^ Well, to be fair, you kinda live where it's perfect weather EVERY DAMN DAY to be outside smoking a cigar...

Some of us live in Hades, so some nice AC at the Shpo from time to time is a treat.


No, no, no, no! Not talking

Sometimes the weather gets BELOW 70F and with a good breeze, the wind chill factor probably takes it down to 65 or so! 🥶

Thank goodness for the serape that Delta TAG!ged me with. 🤙
rfenst Offline
#42 Posted:
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I only smoke my own favorite sticks. When at a B&M, I make certain to purchase a cigar or food and drinks. They got to stay in business somehow...
Stogie1020 Offline
#43 Posted:
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Palama wrote:
No, no, no, no! Not talking

Sometimes the weather gets BELOW 70F and with a good breeze, the wind chill factor probably takes it down to 65 or so! 🥶

Thank goodness for the serape that Delta TAG!ged me with. 🤙

Oh the HUMANITY!!!
LeeBot Offline
#44 Posted:
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Just heartbreaking to hear about this kind of suffering. Maybe we should do a gofundme to buy him an infrared heater.
Stogie1020 Offline
#45 Posted:
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LOL It only heats one side of him, the other side would complain...
Palama Offline
#46 Posted:
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Stogie1020 wrote:
Oh the HUMANITY!!!


LeeBot wrote:
Just heartbreaking to hear about this kind of suffering. Maybe we should do a gofundme to buy him an infrared heater.


I know. Tough job but somebody’s gotta live here! Gonz

Purdy sure it’s been established that I’mma weakling and would never survive living almost anywhere on the Mainland. Not talking
Palama Offline
#47 Posted:
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Stogie1020 wrote:
LOL It only heats one side of him, the other side would complain...


Well, increase the GoFundMe and with the extra money, can buy two of them!

Heck, go for it and get 4! All-around warm! Yeehaw!
jeebling Offline
#48 Posted:
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No shpo anywhere near me. There is a place nearby, 15 miles, that has a small room - plenty big enough if you have only one guy - and it has comfortable chairs and the bar is just steps away if you’re in to that sort of thing. It is by the train station and the building is an old agricultural depot that is no longer used for that purpose. Now they have a large (for our area) outdoor lounge, often with live music. Smoking is allowed even though they serve food out there. I smoked a cigar there once and had 2 beers. Outdoor cigar smoking weather is quickly coming to an end here. It will soon be too hot with too many flying insects to enjoy a cigar outside. My consumption will plummet.
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#49 Posted:
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Locals are great, when you have a good one. They suck if you don't. I have a good one, about 25 miles away. It is where I bought my second good cigar. My first I got from my grandfather, when I was 12 and he caught me smoking a swisher behind his barn. But that is another story.

The local I get to, when I have the time, is owned by C.L. Davis. It is a family run joint attached to his wife pet store. The regulars are called the "Cigar Mafia." We hang out, smoke cigars, and drink coffee. Solve the worlds problems, and joke around. I bought my first humidor there. Made my first 2 box purchases there. A box of A. Fuentes Canones, and a box of A. Fuentes Double Chateau S.G. This was before there was such a thing, as the internet. I was a broke college student, who was waiting tables, and cooking, at an Irish pub. When C.L. found out, he would bring his family, to Kelts, where I worked, for dinner, and leave a generous tip, and a cigar. In return, I spent a bit of my tip money with him. A symbiotic relationship developed. As my cigar knowlege, and my palate matured, I bought more, and better cigars from him. I left the area, and went to culinary school. Got a few chef jobs, and moved to southern California, and worked the LA scene, then to Coronado, and made six figures as an executive chef. Burned out, from the stress of the job, and a nagging Cocaine addiction. Decided to move back to Arkansas, and get clean. The year was 1984. My sponser, in NA, smoked cigars, and I got back into cigars. Back to Mr. Davis, his smoke shop, and the cigars.
Then the internet happened.
I discovered this place, and my hobby became an obsession. I was back at my old job, but the majority of my cigars, were from here. I still made a weekly purchase, from Mr Davis, on my day off, and would smoke them with the Cigar Mafia. To this day, I still make it by, as much as possible to have a smoke, and stimulating conversation with the mafia. But the majority of my purchases, are online. I ocassionaly bring C.L a Cuban cigar, but alway purchase whatever I am smoking, when I am there. When he gets Opus X or Anejo, he saves some for me, as he knows I will buy them, even if I can beat the price elsewhere, because it is my home town smoke shop, and I want it to stay open.
I have left the culinary arts, because it just doesn't pay here in Arkansas, and started a trucking business. I don't have the time to visit, as much as I would like, but I am always welcomed, as if I had never left, and offered a chair. It is nice to have a home. Even at double the price, of online shopping. For me, it is worth it.
Dave (A.K.A. Homebrew)Beer
DrMaddVibe Offline
#50 Posted:
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Goughing or paying what they're charging?

IDK...I'm pretty blessed to have so many great shpos around me. Ya gotta give them their due. Prices have gone up. Those leather chairs/sofas and wide screen tv's aren't free. If they have an awesome bar...someone's bought that too. I mean if you're going to have a herf they can't all be on a golf course.
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