Just finished an Excalibur Prensado on the patio, accompanied by a nice cold glass of Knudsen's 100% Black Cherry juice. Nice combination. Thanks, E-Chick. If you love maddies and Villazon products, you got to love the Prensado. It's smooth enough, strong enough, and, doggone it, herfers like them! Now, if that Black Cherry vanquishes this gouty knee of mine, I am going to fly to San Diego and see if I can get Mike's permission to kiss Marla.