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Body found in ravine
jjohnson28 Offline
#1 Posted:
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http://www2.ocregister.com/ocrweb/ocr/article.do?id=20796§ion=LOCAL&year=2003&month=1&day=16

One for the libs on the board.Oh no we can't execute the person who did this after all they are victims of society.This is real life people not some F_cking dream world you people seem to live in.The death penalty is 100% effective in making sure criminals like this NEVER kill again. JJ

Thursday, January 16, 2003

Body found in ravine
Head, hands missing from female corpse. Police have few clues to victim's identity and say it might be hard to ascertain.
By JOHN McDONALD and JEFF COLLINS
The Orange County Register

The body of a woman with the head and hands cut off was discovered thrown in a ravine along Ortega (74) Highway on Wednesday, closing the road and drawing nationwide inquiries from police.

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The partially clad body was spotted lying belly down about 150 feet off the road by a couple driving by at 7:21 a.m., Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino said.

The couple believed at first that it might be a mannequin but called police anyway.

The removal of the head and hands will make identification difficult, Amormino said. Such mutilation is rare in Southern California, he added.

The woman was described as white, between her late teens and early 30s, 5 feet, 8 inches tall, about 150 to 175 pounds, and with red hair. There was no information on how she was killed.

A nine-mile stretch of the highway was closed shortly before 9 a.m., as investigators searched for body parts and clues. The road was reopened at about 6:30 p.m.

The corpse was discovered about 15 miles east of the San Diego (I-5) Freeway in the Cleveland National Forest, about five miles west of the Riverside County line, officials said.

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Removal of the head and hands has long been associated with organized-crime killings and slayings by some serial killers who prey on women for sexual reasons, said Gregg McCrary, a retired criminal-suspect profiler for the FBI.

"It is done by the more-thoughtful offender to delay or obstruct the victim from being identified. It is not generally something done in a psychotic fit or in the heat of passion," McCrary said. "Without an identification, you usually can't find the killer."

At least two serial killers decapitated victims, he said.

Joel Rifkin of Long Island, N.Y., killed more than 20 prostitutes in the early 1990s and removed the head of at least one. Ed Kemper was a Santa Cruz serial killer who butchered six young women, his mother and another woman from 1972 to 1973. He took the heads of some victims home and also cut off hands and feet, McCrary said.

Both Rifkin and Kemper are in prison. McCrary said he is unaware of any serial killer now on the loose who cuts off his victims' heads.

Authorities needed almost six hours to remove the body from the ravine. Investigators, a deputy coroner and a forensic technician had to be lowered by rope to the location by a team of firefighters specially trained for climbing and rappelling. The body, later covered with a white sheet and strapped to a gurney, was hoisted up the ravine. An autopsy was planned.

The only article of clothing on the body, officials said, was either a pair of white shorts or white underwear. Investigators said they did now know whether the woman had been sexually assaulted.

Officials said the body was probably dumped overnight.

They said the victim did not appear to be pregnant, discounting theories that she was Laci Peterson, a pregnant Modesto woman who disappeared Christmas Eve.

Meanwhile, inquiries came from law enforcement agencies as far away as New York, but officials said they had no details to give them.
jjohnson28 Offline
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Pretty gruesom **** huh? Yeah especially when it's happening just a few miles from YOUR own house and it's for real.





Tobasco Offline
#3 Posted:
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JJ thats horrible! I hope the responcible party is caught. If he/she is caught, there will be someone that feels sorry for this evil person. You know how it goes, rough childhood, insanity or whatever!

Mag
divnmyk Offline
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Yes it is pretty nasty out here in CA. We're all waiting for the outcome to the Laci Peterson case here in Modesto. Terrible thing to happen to anyone but then top it off with her being 8mos pregnant. Serious sickos in the world.
justforfun Offline
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At first impression, it sounds like some sick f**k watched the episode of the Sopranos (where Ralphie is killed and dismembered) and is mimicking it. I hope they find the bad guy/girl (s) and soon. I'd prefer that there is a shoot out when they do (so as to save the tax payers the burden of having to house, clothe, and feed this scum). If no shoot out, then ONE quick trial --- and if they are convicted, then straight off to the death chamber (no appeals, no prolonged - 30 or more days - waiting period). Reading about this type of crime just makes me wonder how sick some people really are, what would cause someone to do such things, and what a questionable place the world has become.
Charlie Offline
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It sure seems like we have our majority share of sickos in California!! Maybe it is because the Liberals and ACLU feel that they can be best "rehabilitated" in California!!!!

Charlie
jjohnson28 Offline
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Hmmmmmm,where have all the anti Death Penalty folks run off to?
CJBully Offline
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On January 17th, 1997, half of the Peckler family had gone skiing for the weekend. A Ford pick-up driven by a repeat offender drunk driver crossed the centerline, causing a crash that killed four and injured six victims. Among the fatalities were Jim Peckler, 52, Jill, age 21, and Jeffrey, age 15

IMHO, The driver of the Ford p/u should get the death penalty. And hows this for some forward thinking, If you're caught DUI (with a maximum BAC of .04) the state mandated minimum sentence should be 6 months in jail, no family or work excuses.

On average, 47 people get murdered everyday in alcohol related vehicle crashes. I don't believe that any of the intoxed drivers has ever been given the death penalty because they caused these deaths. Notice I did not use the word "accidents" because the consumption of alcohol by the drivers was not by "accident".

Maybe Rayder or Rookie can tell us if there are more decapitated bodies thrown in ravines every year or people killed by drunks...


Charlie Offline
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Both types of MURDER should be treated alike, perverts, serial killers and DUI killers!

Hey ACLU, I am sure you disagree with this along with all other horrible offenses that you seem to deem necessary to defend!

Charlie
jjohnson28 Offline
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Sorry but I claim Horsedoodoo on the .04 comment!
CJBully Offline
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Why would a .04 be bulldoo doo jj? If you've been drinking, why can you operate a 1+ ton weapon but can not hunt/carry a firearm?
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 06-01-2000
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DUI certainly merits much tougher sentencing, but Death?
Even though the person drinks on purpose, the result is still an accident.
firsttime offense Jailtime would be fine. But you're going too far (assuming you were serious).
jjohnson28 Offline
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Because I don't believe you or anybody else for that matter has any business telling me what I can or can't do if I have not hurt anyone. Besides .04 is basically 2 beers and you can't tell me that I'm too drunk to drive after just 2 beers.Oh you can tell me but again I'll claim B/S.
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