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hey Chick, Congrats on your find!!
here is a copy/paste from the CA ratings board!!!
I believe it is in Spanish money there tho with the L22.50 So you need that converter to figure the amount per Cigar
Cohiba Esplendido
Cuba 91 Churchill 7"x 47 £22.50 Jan/Feb 1999
Filler: Cuba Binder: Cuba Wrapper: Cuba

A powerful, full-bodied cigar. It has great reddish brown wrapper, and is well-made. It is smooth tasting with sweet, peppery character, and flavors of coffee and cocoa beans.
Laterzzzzzz
Hog

wow...our first female on this BB..Cool...Welcome!..CA is Cigar Aficionado's website..www.XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX.com...figure it out...We can't post other companies website addresses here...It would be in bad taste to our hosts..They have a sharp counterfeit gallery there and you can examine and compare the bands (although that is only one minor detail when verifying authenticity(sp)..You need to check out many other things such as color of the wrapper, length, ring size, construction, etc...Good luck Chick!

You can find the CA board at www.cigaraficionado.com you can sign up for free. That's L22.50, 22.50 English pounds, which equals $32.13 US Dollars. You can find a converter at : www.xe.net/ucc . Hope that helps. :)

ohh...btw...I paid $7.86 apiece...is that good??? ;`)~

$7.86 is too good to be true. Even in Cuba, they cost about $240 box. Jamacia is notorious for fakes.

PS...$240 a box= $10 each. At another website, it was posted that they cost just over $4 each in Cuba. As I see it, the retailer still made close to a 100% markup. Remember, these only made it as far as Jamaica, AND I purchased them at a local place not a tourist trap.

Hog, by local place I meant "local Jamaica". I own 3 businesses in San Diego and always deal with the small business guy (or girl, hehe) as much as I can. I started my own business when I was 18 and it's still going strong. Believe me...I've jumped through every f--kin' hoop you can through at me! THAT'S THE PRICE OF OWNING A BUSINESS! If a salesman wants to sell me cigars at a great price, so be it. My H-U-S-B-A-N-D (read "male") was the one negotiating, so don't go pull that female sh-t on me. Wah-wah...I don't mean to be mean, just fact full. BTW, I'm not a feminist, shun the thought. Just feminine with an occassional horn poking through ;) Have a great Saturday night, Hog. I do enjoy your posts!

TYPO...I'm suggesting to all get along, etc...



should read: NOT

Give it a rest, will ya Marla?...Every week or so, you hae some problem with someone or some other people that suddenly pops up out of nowhere..First it was you and that obvious psycho Howard a few years ago, then recently it was with SLim about a month ago...NOW who do you obviously have a problem with??...Who's ignoring you??!!..It's kind of obvious that some of the things that Slim brought up last time is starting to actually make sense, such as having to be the center of attention on every thread...Name names on who is ignoring you...Cigar snobs?..where did that come from?..Did I miss something (maybe another post) the last few days?..If so, then please let me know what I missed..I may have missed some obscure post on another forum or thread here...If so, I apologize...Fill me in please!

Rookie, it's just apparent that there is the ol' double standard of men can and women can't here.



I add my .02 cents worth just as everyone else only MY .02 cents gets ripped apart and analyzed to the umpteenth power and then some. How many cigars does one actually HAVE to smoke to qualify to post here? I didn't notice that when I signed up and gave my personal info. As my kids will say, "it's not fair", but then again, I'm not looking for fair. I'm just commenting as any other poster here on things that spark my interest. Obviously, I'm interested in this site and what the community at large has to say or else I wouldn't be here. Would you?



There's plenty of BS that I ignore and don't want to hear and even read around, but I don't jump down the poster's throat and plead for them to leave. I was unaware that this is such a 'special' site and that everyone tolerates anyone that can berate, belittle and even tell to go away just if they are annoyed by you. What happened to "we don't want be like the other sites"?



I wouldn't be so bold as to tell YOU to get lost just because I'm not enamoured by cops. You know the old saying: live and let live. Or better yet, let he who is without blemish cast the first stone.



I get hounded as playing the wounded bird here, but in reality, I tried to explain my feelings. I've tried to let it all die down only to have it thrown right back in my face by some who just won't get off it.



It's not me that has the PROBLEM with someone...it's someone (or several people I should say) that have a problem with ME every day. Those are the ones that need to give it a rest...I've tried to move on. Why don't you interrogate the others. I don't need to play the name game. We/they know who they are.



Seesh! Just leave ME alone will you? Funny how noone will dare to call out a man that has posted some stupid, innane, sexual explicit, female degrading post. I could cut and paste hundreds of them from THIS site. From before I even dared to peek in here. Check it out for yourself. Back to the ol' double standard. Thanks for the response, not the attention.

Oh gosh Wally, I'm starting to feel all warm and fuzzy here. Geez 'chick, grow up!!!

Ya SURE this isn't Crimmins?

E-Chick

any flowers yet?

I have no idea what you're talking about (again)...If you cannot give SPECIFICS as to this problem you're experiencing (like I asked in my first post) then please give it a rest...These constant attempts to be the center of every single conversation wears thin...This site isn't Oprah...You claim theres a double standard but yu don't tell us anything else to specify what your problems are...What's with your constant need to use sexual innuendos and flirting in every thread?....Slim is absolutely correct...Marla, I have no problem with you personally, but posting rambling BS doesn't help your credibility much...If Bikenic says your a great person, I'm absolutely sure you are, but try to think about what you're posting (content) BEFORE clicking on the "post message" button

I don't have any trouble understanding what e-Chick's saying ... I'll admit, I've only been around for about a year, so there may well be some issues from before that which I'm unaware of, but I gotta agree with a lot of what she's saying right now ...

There's plenty of examples of so-called 'thread-jacking' that go on here every day and no end of 'innuendo' as well that come from a LOT of different people here, not just her ... but she's been singled out and, in my judgement, unfairly targeted for criticism ...

In an exchange of personal e-mail yesterday with another of the regular posters here, I commented on the recent outbreak of open hostility on the board ... he responded "I don't like all the hostility ... it isn't my style. I just want to have a good time" ... I couldn't agree more.

No one here enjoys their cigars more than I do ... no one here is more interested in learning more about them, about their care, about their storage, proper lighting, etc ... none of you takes more enjoyment in a good quality lighter, a sharp cutter that works as it should, a convenient carry pouch or any other accessory ... I came to this forum because those are areas of genuine interest to me ... I value the accumlated knowledge and wisdom that this group has and I enjoy the interaction among everyone here as much as anyone else does ... WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS!!

I agree completely with the sentiment of my fellow poster here ... "I don't like all the hostility ... it isn't my style. I just want to have a good time" I don't want to see one of our number threaten to punch another, I don't want to see one flame someone he/she happens to disagree with ... there's no one here that I agree 100% with and I am keenly aware that none of you (or anyone else, for that matter), agree with ME 100% ... Rickamaven and I, for example, could not have more disparate political views, but could not be in more complete and absolute agreement when he says that how we treat one another is the most important thing ...

One other point I'd like to make about your 'double standard' claim.

I don't know how others view this situation, but a room full of guys talking and making jokes about about women (locker room talk) is what normal males do. And I've not really seen anyone let that get out of hand (well, most of the time, minus a few posts that have gone down the gutter).

But ... if you brought a woman into that situation, and she tries to be 'one of the guys' with the same type of converstation ... it turns into a whole different animal. All the attention would then be focused on the woman, and it takes on a whole new meaning, hence, she becomes the center of attention.

There is no double stand here ... since this forum is 98% men, and that is what men do when they get together.

You don't see maggiepond chiming in at every opportunity to turn peoples heads, do you? She's earned ... and deserves, everyones respect here. She has been able to fit right in without drawing attention to herself, and her posts have been a joy to read.

On the same token, a bunch of women together doing the same thing, with one male doing what you do here ... wouldn't that annoy you after awhile? Be honest with yourself ...

SLIM/ROOKIE: Everyone else can quit reading at this point, so do yourself a favor...



Slimboli, opps, my bad, didn't realize this was actually a boys locker room! Thanks for finally pointing it out to me.



I did announce that I was in the (cigarbid) room seeking cigar info and that I wasn't a feminist so you wouldn't need to disrupt your boy's club mentality and watch your words - from the beginning...I know that most men are gentlemen and would anyway, but I truly never meant for any censorship to take place. I say what comes to mind, and unfortunately for some of you, you can't handle it and don't like to have fun with me.



And furthermore, every post of mine as you put it has NOT been a sexual innuendo. Maybe the smoke is too thick around your computer for you to see clearly. I am sick of hearing about it too and want it to stop, but I don't have a problem discussing it.



As far as being a flake is concerned, YOU sir don't know me. You know characters on a BB...which 9 times out of 10 are exaggerations of the REAL people, their thoughts, their inhabitions, their world. Slim, I thought you of all people would be aware of that. Of course we all know that you are the 10th one that wears his heart and soul on his sleeve (I don't mean that in a bad way. You are able to stand up for what is important to you and CB obviously is your baby.), but do you think that most other posters here are completely accurate or that they would do exactly as they post?



I mean by that, just reread some of the playful things that have been said here by some (other than me of course).



For you to call me a flake or otherwise over my real feelings being hurt, wanting to leave this site, and then truly missing some of you and even numerous emails for me to return (some from several lurkers who've said that they've given up and won't post specifically because of you Slim - honest), that I in fact chose to come back...is just plain stupid from you. When will it end from you? You need to be honest with yourself and ask WHY you even care?



I do enjoy your knowledge, but like I've said before not your humor or lack thereof IMO. You may very well be hysterical in person, but I don't read you that way. I don't get you and vice versa. We don't even need to get along. Just play nice. Just because we're bi-polar opposites doesn't mean I'll call you out and intimidate you in this forum. I'm a person that laughs easily and finds humor in the remotest of things. I apologize that you're annoyed by the fact that my sense of humor conflicts with yours and a handful of others. That's life. Maybe that's the difference of a man in his 50's and a woman in her 30's...a generational thing...wait Rookie is not in his 50's. Damn, that blows that theory. Let's just say we are all wired differently. Man, I thought we'd buried that hatchet a LONG time ago...



Slim, I don't have a problem with you or your character here, just that you can't seem to let go of the fact that my WORD isn't my word IYO on a silly little internet forum. I'm not trading things, I'm just interjecting thoughts and culling knowledge from a source that interests me. I'm not, nor will I ever be a technical, cut & dried sort of person, so don't expect me to be. If I were trading things here, you would KNOW that I'm very trustworthy. But as you are so quick to point out, I don't smoke enough IYO to actually have things to trade. I don't plan on changing those habits either. And you STILL haven't aswered my Q re how many cigars one has to smoke to qualify to be worthy to post here. You brought my smoking habits into it, so please enlighten me.



FYI, anyone who actual knows me, Marla the person not E-Chick the BB character, will tell you that I am the most honest, upstanding person that will go to the ends of the earth for you. If by typing on my keyboard that I've been personally insulted and had enough here and then daily prodded to please come back by many because they miss and enjoy my input, that you consider me a flake, then so be it. I won't change your opinion. I'm not trying to. I know who I am and the people who matter to me know who I am. I am confident WE'LL never truly know each other or care to for that matter on either side.

And to Rookie: Just like a cop to not get what someone is trying to say and to assume that they're on drugs and paranoid...So, how do YOU like being lumped into a stereotype?



Please spare me any more of your condesending banter. Would you please back off...At least Slimboli STILL gives me cigar advice and was even willing to teach me/us some basic HTML stuff...I'll never change, it's too bad you have. I DON'T have a problem with such and such or so and so. I've kept from responding to the continual threads that just won't let it end as long as I could. I'm not the one who's started them. I toped THIS thread to show approximately when I initially posted and that I am still the same poster as I was 2 years ago since my validity as a poster/lurker has been called into play.



Someone writes and I respond...and this having to write a novel to explain myself is getting old since you ask me Q's and don't seem to get what I'm saying...so if you or Slim have further questions, accusations, or plain old **** that you'd like to say to me via real life voice...please email me and I'd be more than happy to give you my number so we can discuss this further and put it to bed. Everyone here would thank you and Slim for not inciting more response from me, right?



Best to all and let's keep it simple from now on, please...E



ps. Maggiepond is very quiet. She may have learned that as a woman here, she'd quickly be put on trial if she were to have a personality. I'm not knocking her by any means, I just know little of her. Like I said, she's very quiet and may very well have a totally different type of personality than me or you. But I'll certainly not freak out that we don't talk to each other or that she ONLY posts about cigars and not funny asides or ideas. To each her own.

"I am a relative newbie here. I have been catching up on the past postings and I have to admit I find E-chick's ramblings to be very disruptive to the flow of a thread. I do enjoy the humor and banter at this site but the constant switch of subject is a little disconcerting. I was for the most part ambivelent at her signing off and now I am sorry to see her return. Either she should start lighting up some stogies and sharing those experiences or just stay out of the conversation."
That was a repost from another thread. In reading what has been flying around today I want to agree with echick, lets keep it simple. Echick, keep your word, don't go away mad, just go away.

I gotta say one thing, whoever posted that repost that Sammydaddy posted (man this is getting confusing) I completelydisagree with...Why does she have to "smoke cigars and post her experiences or get out"??...Why can't she post about other subjects if she wishes...after all, WE post about some of the most mundane things quite often ourselves...Is this the double-standard you're referring to?..I really do want to understand your view on this Marla..JUST posting about cigars gets really old on ANY cigarboard.
Keith

E-Chick -- I am the same person online, as I am in real life. I amazes me that some people think this is not a 'real world'. I don't lie, exaggerate, or try to be someone I'm not. My concience would not allow that.

Sorry to hear you have to take on a phony persona to go online. Try being yourself ... maybe more here would take a liking to you.

Exaggerate: say more than is true. Sounds like being phoney to me.

To answer your question (which you seem to have a problem doing for me), I left a city of 173,339, which is either the second or third largest city in Califonia next to Los Angeles back in 1987 when I married. We wanted to move out to the county, and away from the congestion and hectic pace of city life, so we moved to a town of about 4,000 which in 15 year has grown to 23,302.

I've also done a fair amount of traveling, which includes Chile, Nova Scotia, Puerto Rico, a good part of the East Coast (both US and Canada), plus many other places to numerous to bore you with. Back in the ealy 70's I was a Weapons Mechanic in the Air Force. I've also worked as a food processing scientist (co-authored two papers in scientific journals), been an assistant manager at a retail nursery (I have a degree in Landscaping and Hortculture) and have designed 100's of Landscapes, once winning first prize in nationwide Landscape design contest, and was a Graphic designer for many years. Currently, I'm working for a fairly large privately owned printing company (CD's and technical document) as Hewlett-Packard's International Mailing Supervisor ... preparing and sending their customers information on upgrades they're entitled, to over 35 countries worldwide, which includes all customs paperwork, invoices, booking of flights, etc.

I know this is more info than you requested ... but what the heck. Not too many of the new folks here know that much about me, other than my rantings ... hehehe!

Slim, when are ya gonna take a trip to the Chicago area? (sorry to go off the topic)..Wow...That is very interesting Slim!...Didn't know much of that...I once broke my clavicle playing flag football in college..LOL

Jim, this scientific process you speak of ... is there any connection between it and those LeRoi du Merde cigars that're mentioned in the other post???

(NOTE that this is not a thread-jacking but a thread-docking ... just tryin to tie up loose threads)

Steve, this one and many more were jacked way before we got here. LOL....BTW my expertise is in production not packaging.

Going in and out of Mexico to Cuba is a piece of cake at least it was 2 years ago. The Mexican imigation officer will not stamp your pass port IF you have a 10 dollar bill in side when you give it to him. I was told to go to the bathroom and put the money inside of the passport and go thru the line again. On the cuban side they WILL NOT accept the bribe, but also they will NOT stamp your passport.