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Che cigar
Iceman219 Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 07-13-2002
Posts: 204
I went to a cigar shop and brought a couple of cigars. The cigar shop said they were made with 100%
pre-embargo tobacco. They are called Che. I lit one up on the way home and could not believe it. It was
a incredible smoke. Anyone hear of this brand? It has a red white and gold band with a red star on it. Mike
Slimboli Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 07-09-2000
Posts: 16,139
Probably named after Che Guevara ...

During the Cuban Revolution of 1956-1959, led by Fidel Castro, Ernesto Che Guevara participated in ... and became a commander in the Rebel Army ...

http://www.marxists.org/archive/guevara/1963/misc/x001.jpg

On October 9th, 1967, Ernesto "Che" Guevara was put to death by Bolivian soldiers, trained, equipped and guided by U.S. Green Beret and CIA operatives.

His execution remains a historic and controversial event; and thirty years later, the circumstances of his guerrilla foray into Bolivia, his capture, killing, and burial are still the subject of intense public interest and discussion around the world.
xaigoxx Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 01-01-2000
Posts: 122
im not a big believer on these pre-embargo cigars. A few boutique brands out there claim the use of it...and maybe its true. But, smoking a pre-embargo cigar (made before the embargo) and smoking a cigar made recently with ("pre-embargo") tobacco will be totally different.

Lawrence
redsquid Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 12-15-2002
Posts: 1,286
Just don't put your Che cigars in with your Bolivars.
Steve*R Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 07-23-2001
Posts: 1,858
Che is not a pre-embargo Cuban. It is a very low quality cigar, private labeled for a large Florida retailer who will send you at least one catalog per month. I believe it is mixed fill. They are generally sold as filler to sell cheap boxes, advertised as humidors. That said, if you liked it, that's all that really matters.
bud451 Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 09-11-2010
Posts: 2,237
So cheap they could only pay for half a name..."che"
Lowman Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 12-03-2002
Posts: 6,982
LOL @ bud...
eleltea Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 03-03-2002
Posts: 4,562
CHE
HANDMADE
GROWING: San Andres Valley, MEXICO.
Shape: Torpedo Size: 6 3/8” Ring Gauge: 52
Filler, Binder and Wrapper: Mexico
Color: Maduro, a shade wrapper with a very dark reddish-brown.
Taste: A gergeous cigar. Full body and velvety texture, draws extremelly well. It has an earthly undertone with hints of nut flavors and hint of spice.

Single cigar, Price: $8.99 USD

eleltea Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 03-03-2002
Posts: 4,562
Wouldn't We All Like to Have This Box. . .

THE embargo is an absurd and irrational relic, according to JFK’s advisor Richard Goodwin, speaking at the academic conference in Havana entitled "Bay of Pigs, 40 Years After".

He added that he had no doubt that if Cuba were a powerful country, it would have had a dialogue with the United States for some time, but this is now defined by the internal politics of the Cuban-American National Foundation. Hence there is always a political cost for achieving some agreement with Cuba.

He commented that the majority of U.S. citizens would welcome a settlement with Cuba. Among the people of the United States, there is no hostility toward Cuba, excepting certain members of the right wing and the Cuban exile community.

MEETING WITH CHE GUEVARA

Goodwin recalled his meeting with Comandante Che Guevara at a reception in Montevideo, after the Bay of Pigs invasion. He confided that Che had given him a box of Cuban cigars which he has kept to this day.

Che commented to Goodwin that the United States had committed a serious error by carrying out the Bay of Pigs invasion, as it had in its attempts to assassinate Fidel, because he was the born leader of the Cuban revolutionary process.

They also talked about the 'petit bourgeoisie' that left Cuba for the United States. He was very frank, Goodwin stated, and they had a very open discussion. Che told him that he was going to talk to him about Cuba’s problems, stating that there was serious economic damage, with U.S. machinery breaking down and no spare parts available.

Goodwin went on to say that Che expressed his wish to reestablish trade with the United States, and for an end to the blockade. He also commented on the possibility of Cuba participating in the Alliance for Progress, although he thought that it would be a failure, due to Washington’s insistence on the issue of social change. Che affirmed that it was only a possibility, according to Goodwin’s version.

Kennedy’s special advisor said that they also talked about expropriated properties in Cuba, but clarified that he spent most of the time listening, as he lacked the authority to discuss those issues.

He recounted the whole conversation to Kennedy in a memorandum. Goodwin took the box of cigars given him by Che to the White House. Kennedy lit one and confirmed that they were very good, and Goodwin responded that they were always the best.

After the Bay of Pigs, Goodwin sensed that Kennedy wasn’t psychologically prepared to talk about Cuba, but he did recommend Operation Mongoose to them. That was the second stage.

However, according to Goodwin, Kennedy’s insecurity disappeared with the Missile Crisis, which made the U.S. president feel more confident and more capable of confronting the world.

Kennedy viewed the results of the Missile Crisis as a great victory over the Soviet Union, in relation to Cuba. It was at that point that the U.S. president thought he should make contact with the Cuban government, although logically this would have been very difficult, but his assassination in Dallas put an end to those negotiations. (Editor’s note: Contacts were made between representatives of both countries at the UN until November 22, 1963.)

La10870 Offline
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Che that's a lot of info!!!!!!
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