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cccbus Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Apr 8 2003, 7:48 AM EST
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I just got back from a local store and he told me he could not tell me when the next shipment of Opus would come in. Not that he knew and wouldn't tell it thatsthey don't know. When I asked him if thy ship he said everything but OPUS X. When I ask him why he said that authourized dealers could only sell in store. Not by phone or mail. Any one else heard of this? He did say he would call me when the next shipment comes in
He did recomeend the Padron 1964 Anniversayr series as an OPUS X replacement. I bought one at 11 bucks and it may just be an OPUS replacement. Heck of a lot cheaper to. I gotta get that OPUS first and compare
Steve*R Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Apr 8 2003, 8:07 AM EST
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The fellow at the shop was following Fuente official policy. Fuente does not allow some of its "limited distribution" brands/blends to be sold via the internet or mailorder. That holds true for shops who purchase through official Fuente channels. You will find scalpers who, virtually, buy at retail themselves and sell these cigars at outrageous prices on the web. The reality is that if you develop a long term relationship with a shop that legitimately sells Opus at MSRP, they'll let you place an order over the phone and may ship them to you, provided you are a long standing regular customer. I assume Fuente maintains this policy to protect small brick and mortar merchants.
Robby Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Apr 8 2003, 8:15 AM EST
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It's like being a member of a secret society... I've told people who are non-smokers about this and they're amazed! Many times, they won't even put them out! They're under the counter, and the only way you know they're there is "you're on the list". You're a friend of ours or a friend of mine... A made man. Then when they drop a dime to tell you the eagle has landed, you're limited to 2 per customer. And you'd better get there quick! It is truly a tribute to their marketing prowess.
docrks Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Apr 8 2003, 8:24 AM EST
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ccbus - Your OPUS X quest is about to have a happy ending. Send me an email to

docrks at army dotcom
wouldestous Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Apr 8 2003, 8:30 AM EST
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there is a store not too far from me (charlotte, nc area) that has opus fairly regularly. straight msrp, limit 2. ive smoked a handful of them and have to say im underwhelmed. if im smoking fuente id rather have a sungrown in the regular line. ymmv
Robby Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Apr 8 2003, 8:52 AM EST
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Or a hemmingway masterpiece, or an on-yeah-hole, or, or, or,.... But I like the Opus too :o)
jd1 Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Apr 8 2003, 6:18 PM EST
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Way to go docrks!
Like most all smokes, Opus needs their humi time too. I'm never satisfied with a smoke right off the shelf. IMHO, cigars just need some humi time (min 3months) to begin to open up. Not to say I didn't enjoy them, it's just you'll enjoy them that much more the more age they acquire. I've ordered Opus mail order at Fuente suggested retail. They do it if they have them.

I smoked an Opus #4 I got from E-chick and it was a full-bodied masterpiece. Very enjoyable and it definitely had some age on it.
BMW Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Apr 8 2003, 6:32 PM EST
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I agree with Robby. It's good to be part of a select group that gets access to the under/behind the counter stash. It's even better when there's a limit of 2 per person per day and they let you buy how ever many you want. Trouble is I've shuffled the Opus Humi so many times I lost track of the dates and some are over 2 years old. Like jd1 says they are better with age.

Barry

(way to go docrks)

Barry
docrks Offline
#9 Posted: Wed, Apr 9 2003, 2:49 AM EST
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ccbus (Going Twice)

Your Opus X is waiting !!

Need your snailer so I can send it out - drop me a line to docrks at army dotcom.
octowings Offline
#10 Posted: Wed, Apr 9 2003, 3:52 AM EST
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cccbus,

docrks is a good man.
I'd take him up on the offer!

...octo
hoagie55 Offline
#11 Posted: Wed, Apr 9 2003, 5:26 AM EST
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Nice gesture docrks!!

Take him up on the offer ccbus!!

Strike three is coming shortly!! ;-)
EricWeiner Offline
#12 Posted: Wed, Apr 9 2003, 5:31 AM EST
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Funny how Fuente has a policy about in-store sales but does nothing regarding price gouging above MSRP.
Slimboli Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Apr 9 2003, 5:53 AM EST
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EricWeiner --- the Fuente's DO have a very strict policy on the price goughing of their lines of cigars ... and it is not taken lightly when they are made aware of it. But, as you can imagine, it can sometimes be difficult to enforce.

Any retailer that participates in these practices, can lose their authorization to sell the Fuente lines.

All one has to do ... is report it to the local sales rep, and the problem will be taken care of in a very timely manner.
Lowman Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Apr 9 2003, 5:58 AM EST
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Slim,

What is considered an excessive mark-up??

How would one know what they are supposed to pay??

Low

I've paid $8 for 858 SG, $13 for Anejo #77 Shark, $14 for Untold story... is this excessive??
jd1 Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Apr 9 2003, 6:08 AM EST
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I've brought pricing gouging to the attention of the Fuentes in an email. They responded to the email stating they will look into it and for me to give them the name/address. It's two months later, and the pricing on that shops Fuente line is still $2-3/stick higher than their competitor that is closer to me. This particular shop is an authorized Fuente dealer because Fuente said so, yet I've see no changes in pricing. I don't go there any more unless I'm looking for something I'm willing to pay that price for. Short Stories for $6.50 is excessive. $14 for a Don Carlos #2 is excessive. Opus pricing at that store is the same type of markup. The only difference is that they will allow you to buy 2 sticks of every size on the counter. I'll believe Fuente pricing policy enforcement when I see it. This shop is a big Fuente mover too in that they always have more selection than anyone.
Slimboli Offline
#16 Posted: Thu, Apr 10 2003, 3:35 AM EST
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jd1 --- I don't know, but I don't consider $2-3/stick above MSRP as gouging ... and the shops are allowed a certain 'margin' of mark-up due to supply and demand.

Heck ... where do you live?

Out here in in the Republic of Kalifornia, I've paid around $7.35 and higher for a Short Story, mainly because of our 67% tobacco taxes. So, MSRP is pretty much in line ... before taxes.

There was also a shop out here that had them for $18.95 each ... and are now no longer an authorized Fuente dealer ( ... hehehe!), so I guess it depends on how big a 'gouge' they are going after.
Slimboli Offline
#17 Posted: Thu, Apr 10 2003, 3:39 AM EST
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Lowman --- I posted the Fuente and the OpusX MSRP link here about a half doezen times over the years ... but due to hard drive probelms, I had to reformat and I lost it.

... I'll see if I can find it in a search ...

Where do you live? I saw the 858SG's when I was in San Diego at Seaport Village (fancy-schmancy tourist trap) and they were selling for $6.95 each!
Lowman Offline
#18 Posted: Thu, Apr 10 2003, 4:06 AM EST
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Slim,

I live in Jersey. The high taxes probably account for the higher prices. There aren't too many places in the area that carry an extensive selection of the "hard to find" Fuentes (SG, Opus). I don't mind paying a little more if is a cigar I am looking to smoke.
The Opus X range from $14 - $20 depending on which one. (ex. Dbl Cor - $19, X #2 - $17, etc.)

Low
jd1 Offline
#19 Posted: Thu, Apr 10 2003, 6:25 AM EST
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You're right again Slim..I guess it depends on what Fuente considers gouging.

My wallet follows the better deal down the road at the shop that provides better pricing. Sure is tempting though to visit the "gougers" that usually have the Fuentes when the others are out.
docrks Offline
#20 Posted: Fri, Apr 11 2003, 5:43 AM EST
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There is no joy in Mudville....

cccbus has struck out !!!! 3 attempts to give away Opus X, sorry....

Irish Grad - rcvd your message - send your snailer - I will gladly change the fact that you have never tried an Opus X - welcome to the adventure !!!! docrks
Lowman Offline
#21 Posted: Fri, Apr 11 2003, 6:04 AM EST
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Too bad for cccbus... He hasn't posted since he put the post up 3 days ago...

Good for you IrishGrad... I enjoy the Opus X.. They are one of my "special Occasion" cigars... Then again... it seems that most of the cigars I've been buying lately have been special occasion cigars... hmmmm... I guess every time I smoke IS a sepcial occasion... hmmm...

OK, now I remember... I ONLY smoke "special occasion" cigars on days that end in "Y"... that's it...

Low

Sorry to babble...
Robby Offline
#22 Posted: Fri, Apr 11 2003, 6:18 AM EST
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No bable, my statement which I will make again here is, we all have too many cigars. Some of us, WAY TOO MANY. Surely we all have some of those special occasion smokes, Opus, PAMs, ISOMs, etc... Get um out and have one!! I try to at least 1 time a week Saturday afternoon seems to work well! Smoke the normal good stuf for whenever, but don't horde the "really good stuff" enjoy it! Life is too short my friends. These are the good ol days.
Lowman Offline
#23 Posted: Fri, Apr 11 2003, 6:28 AM EST
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Was that Robby or Robby (imposter)??? That was a really nice post w/o any jokes or sarcasm. Are you OK today?? LOL

J/K... I know not ALL your posts are jokes.

Low

Smoke 'em if you got 'em !!!
cccbus Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Apr 12 2003, 12:49 PM EST
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Sorry docrks, I appreciate the offer of the opus x cigar. I don't get a chance to get on this board as often as I want to. But being a newbie I would like to learn as much as possible. thanks again.
docrks Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Apr 12 2003, 12:52 PM EST
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cccbus -

The Ump has decided that your last swing and miss was really a foul tip !!! You're still alive at the plate.

Send your snailer to docrks at armydot com

and you'll have that Opus X in time for your Easter smoke.
emgjet Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Apr 12 2003, 8:40 PM EST
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Roman,

You are a Class Act all the way.
Nicely done!

Ed
cccbus Offline
#27 Posted: Wed, Apr 16 2003, 6:20 PM EST
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Got the OpusX and a few surprises today..cant wait to try them...drooling....telling the wife we will have fun ;-) later I gotta smoke an OPUS X. Not just any Cigar THE Cigar. Thanks again Doc Your a top notch guy!!
docrks Offline
#28 Posted: Thu, Apr 17 2003, 6:06 AM EST
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Dennis - You're welcome.

Glad to see you have established the priorities in your marriage ----- Opus X first ----fun with wife ,,, later.

You have discovered the secret to a happy life.

docrks
Sonny_LSU Offline
#29 Posted: Thu, Apr 17 2003, 12:50 PM EST
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My favorite humi here sells the entire Opus line and keeps it in stock! Alas, you can only purchase 2 per stick type, but, hell, I can actually go in there and come out with a dozen Opus at a time!

It doesn't hurt that the owner and a very good friend of mine worked together for years;)
Robby Offline
#30 Posted: Thu, Apr 17 2003, 1:41 PM EST
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It's fun to have a couple in the humi, but you can buy a box of good sticks here for the retail on a handfull of Opus at retail.
cccbus Offline
#31 Posted: Thu, Apr 17 2003, 2:59 PM EST
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OK...Had the OPUS X..WOW what a cigar can't wait until the store calls with a shipment and I can get what I can. The padron aniversary series is a good 2nd to the Opus X but NO OPUS X. :-)
Homebrew Offline
#32 Posted: Thu, Apr 17 2003, 4:39 PM EST
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Hey Sonny,
email the contact info on that shop to me. After that Birthday present you are sending, I may be addicted.
Later
Homebrew
BMW Offline
#33 Posted: Thu, Apr 17 2003, 4:42 PM EST
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cccbus is doing the Opus Pocus! LOL

Barry
Robby Offline
#34 Posted: Thu, Apr 17 2003, 5:09 PM EST
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Weeeeeeeeeeee! I'll have to have a dbl corona this weekend! I think they're GREAT cigars!! and YES I also think they're OVERPRICED cigars. But they're still GREAT! But they're still OVERPRICED! Tastes great! Less Filling!
rayder1 Offline
#35 Posted: Thu, Apr 17 2003, 9:56 PM EST
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Last I checked our local cigar bar (Fuente Dealer) had Opus X on their shelf...$20 last look. I don't know if they're out by now, but I promised myself to go by there and have one with a couple of nice single malts.

If not then I guess a Hemingway will have to suffice.
rmarrandino Offline
#36 Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2003, 7:12 AM EST
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After hearing all of you rave about this cigar I went to my local shop yesterday and picked up 2 at $10 each. I sure I paid a little too much, but......
Robby Offline
#37 Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2003, 7:21 AM EST
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If you've never tried one, you're in for a treat!
Slimboli Offline
#38 Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2003, 7:30 AM EST
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rmarrandino --- if you paid $10 each, you got one heck of a deal ...

MSRP can range anywhere from $7.50 to $14.50 (excluding the 'A'), and you will seldom find them going for 'suggested retail' prices.

jd1 Offline
#39 Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2003, 7:36 AM EST
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rmarrandino, which one was it? The #4 and Beli xXx go for just under that at an online retailer I've used in the past. However, $10 was about the price for the #4 at my local.
puskarich Offline
#40 Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2003, 8:30 AM EST
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Be thankful that you have local retailers that sell Opus. The closest retailer to me is > 2 hrs. There is one retailer locally that sells a lot of other Fuente cigars, but no Opus.

I have only had the pleasure of smoking one. I bought it last October and hid it in the humi until February. The cigar was OK. Extremely hard draw. Virtually unsmokable. I'd love to try another, but will have to wait until another out-of-town trip to pick one up.
docrks Offline
#41 Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2003, 8:37 AM EST
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puskarich -

drop a line to docrks at army dotcom
puskarich Offline
#42 Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2003, 8:48 AM EST
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e-mail sent.
Lowman Offline
#43 Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2003, 9:13 AM EST
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Doc, you da man...

Oh, BTW, did I tell you that I had a special Opus X #2 picked out for a very special occasion. When I went to light it, my dog (a Dalmation that was a former pet at a local firehouse), ran at me, knocked the lighter (fire) out of my hand and chewed my Opus to pieces. :o(

I therefore have not yet experienced the phenomena that is called Opus X....

Low

PS... BWAHAHAHAHAHA
rmarrandino Offline
#44 Posted: Fri, Apr 18 2003, 11:37 AM EST
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I didn't pay attention to which one it was. It was the only size they had in stock and they didn't have many. It isn't that big, maybe 4-5" with a small ring size. I'm guessing that it's the #5.
emgjet Offline
#45 Posted: Sat, Apr 19 2003, 12:21 PM EST
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Lowman:

Is that a true story aboout your only potential Opus X experience?

Drop me your snailer.

Ed

emgjet at aol dot com
jd1 Offline
#46 Posted: Sat, Apr 19 2003, 6:49 PM EST
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Me too. yeah..that happened to me too, 'cept I also fell down on me arse! argghh!
IrishGrad Offline
#47 Posted: Sun, Apr 20 2003, 6:09 PM EST
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DOC,

Thanks so much for the Opus and friends. It's sitting in my humi begging for me to smoke it. I'm definitely waiting for the right occasion though. Maybe the end of my 1st year at grad school...that's only a few weeks away. You are a true champ. Thanks Doc...

Cheers,
~IrishGrad
ksinger Offline
#48 Posted: Sun, Apr 20 2003, 6:50 PM EST
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I went over to a good buddies place tonight for a Easter cookout and some good brew and smokes. He was kind enough to pass on an Opus X for me. He enjoyed a HUGE Ashton Cabinet something or other. Didn't pay enough attention because I was so taken in by the Opus. Definitely a great stick...his payback will be a Cohiba Siglo III (ISOM).
Tobasco Offline
#49 Posted: Sun, Apr 20 2003, 9:21 PM EST
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Sorry to seem lazy, cause I only read the intro post.

But, all I have to say about my experience of Opus X cigars, is that they are overpriced & overhyped.

Mag
rtanner Offline
#50 Posted: Mon, Apr 21 2003, 2:08 PM EST
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There is no substitute for an Opus X!!!
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