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Please give me reason(s) NOT to vote for Romney!
1. Author: bloody spaniardDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 11:01AM EST
Otherwise, I will convince wife to do same.
The man in the White House HAS to go- unless there's something I don't know. Voting for anyone else besides Romney would be a wasted vote (unfortunate reality IMHO).


Btw, despite sitting out the last election (couldn't 't stomach McLame), I've voted for (and contributed to) only Republicans since 1973(?) EXCEPT for dubbya's re-election when I went with the other liar (Kerry).
2. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 11:16AM EST
Can't vote for the Big O myself but if you really need a reason I'd float Romney care. Meet the new boss same as the old boss as Roger and DMV would say.
3. Author: tailgaterDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 11:17AM EST
Reason #1:
If you are a left-winged moon bat who thinks that our federal government should continue its current path by taxing the productive citizens so that the sloth can live more comfortably.
4. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 5/3/2012, 11:27AM EST
Obama is to Romney
As brown sugar is to aspertame
5. Author: HockeyDadDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 11:35AM EST
At least with Obama we already know who has most-favored status under the Cone of Protection. Mitt's cone is less certain.
6. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 11:38AM EST
ZRX1200 wrote:
Obama is to Romney
As brown sugar is to aspertame


You like Obama better?
7. Author: bloody spaniardDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:05PM EST
Brown sugar is definitely healthier... but I assume Jaime was just making the frick vs frack comparison.


Points taken. So I assume you guys will sit this one out and/or protest vote, allowing Obama to waltz in again?
Perhaps you are counting on a Republican congress and it's "hard-hitting" leaders like the orange Speaker of the House Boehner to counterbalance Obama?
8. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:06PM EST
I'll either vote Romney or maybe write in Bea Aurther or something. But I will vote.
9. Author: HockeyDadDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:07PM EST
Le HockeyDad is counting on the status quo being maintained.
10. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:08PM EST
HockeyDad wrote:
Le HockeyDad is counting on the status quo being maintained.


you are voting for sarkozy?
11. Author: HockeyDadDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:09PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
you are voting for sarkozy?



Absolutely! The other guy is a socialist.
12. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:10PM EST
I'm voting RP.


Done compromising, will never vote for another establishment R again. And TW no I dont like him better, my point was for all their differences their purpose is the same. Mittens is bought and paid for just like Soetoro and both are ineligible constitutionally btw (both of their fathers).
13. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:10PM EST
depends on who's gonna give me the most free stuff... Mellow
14. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:21PM EST
ZRX1200 wrote:
I'm voting RP.


Done compromising, will never vote for another establishment R again. And TW no I dont like him better, my point was for all their differences their purpose is the same. Mittens is bought and paid for just like Soetoro and both are ineligible constitutionally btw (both of their fathers).


So you are voting "present"
15. Author: bloody spaniardDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:24PM EST
^ exactly- I like that guy's independent streak but when it comes to some of his foreign policy...

DrafterX wrote:
depends on who's gonna give me the most free stuff... Mellow


That war (on poverty?) was lost long ago. Just getting worse. Would you turn down "free stuff"?


I can relate, Jaime, but are you trying to tell the Republicans that they should run a Reagan in 4 years by making it easier for Obama to win this time?

Wouldn't bet the mortgage on Sarkozy winning...
16. Author: tailgaterDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:26PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
I'll either vote Romney or maybe write in Bea Aurther or something. But I will vote.


Bea Arthur ran a failed campaign in the late '70s.
Her slogan was "I will win this election, or my name will be Maude"

17. Author: HockeyDadDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:26PM EST
Sarkozy is toast. France will be taking another wussified socialist turn very soon.
18. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:52PM EST
I understand fully what you're saying Bloody. Not exactly how I feel but I see it two ways. You can stand up and be heard or you can try to get involved.

The party has to change.
19. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 5/3/2012, 12:56PM EST
And you guys have entirely too much faith in voting machines!
20. Author: bloody spaniardDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 1:03PM EST
ZRX1200 wrote:
I understand fully what you're saying Bloody. Not exactly how I feel but I see it two ways. You can stand up and be heard or you can try to get involved.

The party has to change.




I agree in principle, bro, but what happens to the country in the next 4 years? You figure at least 2 Supreme Court justices will be nominated by Obama. At the very least, we need a more business- friendly environment. Romney might fit that ticket.

Perhaps if another Perot (new party?) decides to run... then, some of us would jump ship. RP just doesn't do it for many of us disenfranchised.
21. Author: NicarDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 1:15PM EST
If another Perot type runs.. it will split votes from a close race between Dem v Rep... and more likely, take away from votes that the Republican would get. Being an advantage for Obama..

Obama is not pro-platinum membership... so dont vote for him!
22. Author: dubleuhbDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 1:30PM EST
It sucks that the decision has come to not who do I want to be president but who we can't afford another four years of. Then living in NY my vote rarely counts anyway.
23. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 1:59PM EST
Think


What IF Romney doesn't have enough delegates to get past a 1st round vote?

Delegates in states that "bind" them to a "winner" wouldn't be "bound" in a 2nd round vote.

If THAT happens then voting for Ron Paul would be something I'd be proud to do again.

If NOT...I want the Kenyan King out of office so bad that I would go against what I said before about not voting for a guy like Mittens and do it. Mittens would HAVE to work for America instead of on his golf game or going on vacation. Mittens didn't run up a 5 TRILLION debt tab on TOP of what we already have and CANNOT be trusted with a 2nd term to "get it right"! He was EXACTLY what I told everyone here he was...an inexperienced EMPTY SUIT! A 2nd term of more of his cronyism would doom America and what little it still has in the tank. The ship WOOULD runa ground under Owedumba's hand...he would die first before he would reverse course or alter the direction he's taking us on.
24. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 2:45PM EST
I bet the czars are really counting on a second term.... I wonder if they get bonuses and stuff... Mellow
25. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 2:47PM EST
DrafterX wrote:
I bet the czars are really counting on a second term.... I wonder if they get bonuses and stuff... Mellow



Paydays and vacations...that's what THEY get!
26. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 2:48PM EST
but Mittens doesn't have to keep them does he..?? Huh
27. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Thu, 5/3/2012, 4:29PM EST
DrafterX wrote:
but Mittens doesn't have to keep them does he..?? Huh



NOPE!

He would FIRE them all and perhaps eliminate the positions!

w00t!
28. Author: bloody spaniardDate: Fri, 5/4/2012, 9:51AM EST
^ If elected, we'll know Romney's true intentions within the first 6 months.


DrMaddVibe wrote:
Think


What IF Romney doesn't have enough delegates to get past a 1st round vote?

Delegates in states that "bind" them to a "winner" wouldn't be "bound" in a 2nd round vote.

If THAT happens then voting for Ron Paul would be something I'd be proud to do again.

If NOT...I want the Kenyan King out of office so bad that I would go against what I said before about not voting for a guy like Mittens and do it. Mittens would HAVE to work for America instead of on his golf game or going on vacation. Mittens didn't run up a 5 TRILLION debt tab on TOP of what we already have and CANNOT be trusted with a 2nd term to "get it right"! He was EXACTLY what I told everyone here he was...an inexperienced EMPTY SUIT! A 2nd term of more of his cronyism would doom America and what little it still has in the tank. The ship WOOULD runa ground under Owedumba's hand...he would die first before he would reverse course or alter the direction he's taking us on.



Takes courage to admit to that. I feel exactly the same way. And yes, I remember him from waaaay back as being a man of little substance as well ("empty suit" as you put) even when he debated constitutional law which has supposedly his strong suit (pun intended) against Keyes, but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I was also hoping he'd surround himself with capable people.
Brick wall

The delegate issue you bring up is an interesting one but I doubt that'll happen. Ron Paul's followers are a loyal bunch but I imagine the dislike for Obama by the rest is so great that differences will be put aside & the Republican wagons will circle around Mittens, er, Romney.



Still don't have a reason to NOT vote for Romney. Just can't let that bozo waltz in for a second (undeserved) term of apologizing and vacations.
BUT if Romney gets in and pulls a dubbya, I will personally go door to door (better yet, use the internets) to support a viable third party.
ram27bat
29. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Fri, 5/4/2012, 10:06AM EST
bloody spaniard wrote:
The delegate issue you bring up is an interesting one but I doubt that'll happen. Ron Paul's followers are a loyal bunch but I imagine the dislike for Obama by the rest is so great that differences will be put aside & the Republican wagons will circle around Mittens, er, Romney.



It's NOT a lock!!!


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/romney-faces-a-narrow-path-to-270-electoral-votes-but-his-team-remains-optimistic/2012/05/03/gIQAbw71zT_story.html?wprss=rss_homepage
30. Author: raymallenDate: Fri, 5/4/2012, 1:27PM EST
Any vote that isn't for Romney, is a vote for Obama. Ron Paul doesn't stand a chance in an election against Obama, so it's pointless voting for him. Not a big fan of any one running(especially anyone who pushes for social programs). That being said Ron Paul would be my choice(if I knew he could beat Obama).
31. Author: StinkdyrDate: Fri, 5/4/2012, 1:33PM EST
Romney = Obama = Bush = Clinton, etc

All socialists.


Give your wallet and your freedoms a break, vote Libertarian.


FREEDOM.....whatta radical concept.


Herfing
32. Author: bloody spaniardDate: Fri, 5/4/2012, 1:41PM EST
Two quick questions:

1. How long have you been voting Libertarian?
2. How many Libertarians have been elected to office?


Seems as though it's fashionable to say one is Libertarian these days. Not sure how practical that is though. Sounds like a protest vote nothing more.
33. Author: StinkdyrDate: Fri, 5/4/2012, 1:53PM EST
I have been voting Libertarian for over 20 years.

The argument that you should only vote Demican or Republicrat bcuz one of them will win.......gets you more and more status quo tax and spend socialism. How is that working out for you?


Beer
34. Author: dpnewellDate: Fri, 5/4/2012, 2:20PM EST
I gave up on the Reps back in '96. Supported and voted for Alan Keyes in the primary. When Dole won the nomination, I figured there had to be a better way. Joined the Libs and voted Harry Browne. If all the Libs had voted Dole in '96, Clinton still would have won, so don't give me the "you guys gave Clinton the election" speech. Just like my vote for Ron Paul in '08 didn't give Obama the election.
35. Author: raymallenDate: Fri, 5/4/2012, 2:25PM EST
Stinkdyr wrote:
I have been voting Libertarian for over 20 years.

The argument that you should only vote Demican or Republicrat bcuz one of them will win.......gets you more and more status quo tax and spend socialism. How is that working out for you?


Beer


A libertarian will not be voted in our life time. Thank my generation for that. But some times you have to think "the enemy of my enemy, is my friend".
36. Author: bloody spaniardDate: Fri, 5/4/2012, 2:46PM EST
raymallen wrote:
A libertarian will not be voted in our life time. Thank my generation for that. But some times you have to think "the enemy of my enemy, is my friend".



That's probably true. However, I think that a fresh, re-packaged version of the Libertarian brand with a new name and a charismatic leader might eventually pull it together & make it work... and no, the Tea Party moniker is tainted despite their "revolutionary" ideas IMHO.

...and you are correct, it hasn't exactly worked out well for any of us, Stink. That's why I haven't voted since Kerry vs. Bush. My candidates rarely won in Maryland anyway.
Like dpnewell, I lost interest in the Republicans near the end of Dubbya's first term. I, too, supported Alan Keyes btw. I'm just very concerned about the next four years. The Democrat constituencies are ever- growing & that party appears to be in the catbird seat long-term despite the potential congressional debacle facing them after the next Presidential election.
37. Author: ZRX1200Date: Fri, 5/4/2012, 3:38PM EST
Benefits buy votes of the lazy leaches of society.


Corporate and citizen trash alike.


Bloody, Mittens supported NDAA and CISPA. I don't think this fits your criteria here but sure feeds my need to vote RP.

A new voice will rise, when? Who knows.......but a new R/libertarian party or political movement is gaining steam. Too bad the phuktards in the OCCUPY didn't care to see the common ground and decided socialism and shïtting on cop cars was the really important thing. Division is what keeps one party rule intact, and I refuse to take part in participating in facilitating their grip on our Republic.

It will be another 10-15 years before any major changes occurs if it ever does. Amazing how much was sacrificed over so little while these days Americans are willing to risk nothing to save everything.
38. Author: StinkdyrDate: Mon, 5/7/2012, 8:45AM EST
^^ You may be right. USSA has to sink further and feel more tax pain, more austerity, more bankruptcy........before they will embrace change.

fog
39. Author: bloody spaniardDate: Mon, 5/7/2012, 10:00AM EST
NDAA and CISPA is some scary stuff but the behind the scenes diabolical deviousness between the Government and Pharma dwarfs it.
It's something much bigger than a Ron Paul can fix. We're already close to Third World corrupt.


And no, I may have taken a 7 year break and it may be pie in the sky futility, but I haven't given up on the system YET.
Going to give it ONE more try before I throw in the towel.Frying pan
40. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Tue, 5/8/2012, 5:51AM EST
ZRX1200 wrote:
Too bad the phuktards in the OCCUPY didn't care to see the common ground and decided socialism and shïtting on cop cars was the really important thing. Division is what keeps one party rule intact, and I refuse to take part in participating in facilitating their grip on our Republic.



The entire Occupooper Movement was a democratic platform. It was the Kenyan King's reelection campaign...without the pillars and fancy slogans designed to ensnare the morons and useless proles out of their parent's basements.

They're mad they didn't get the Hope and Change they wanted. Now they cry.
41. Author: yardobeefDate: Tue, 5/8/2012, 12:26PM EST
Does it really matter for whom you vote? The system is broken so badly that all you are doing is giving the money firehouse a nudge so a slightly different set of plutocrats gets the people's wealth.

In need of real hope and change. Don't see either on the horizon. :(
42. Author: ZRX1200Date: Wed, 5/9/2012, 1:07AM EST
Romney rejects Ron Paul-style austerity ← return to Inside Politics

You can almost hear the collective gasp from Ron Paul's loyal band of supporters.

Speaking Monday at a town hall style-meeting event in Cleveland, presumptive GOP presidential Mitt Romney plunged a fork into the idea that he could come around to embracing Mr. Paul's call for deep cuts in federal spending.

"My job is to get America back on track to have a balanced budget. Now I'm not going to cut $1 trillion in the first year," he said, distancing himself from Mr. Paul's (http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2011/oct/19/paul-time-cut-spending/) plan to slice more than a quarter of the estimated $3.8 trillion being spent by the the federal government.

Why not, someone in the crowd apparently asked, sparking a response from the former Massachusetts governor.

"The reason," he explained, "is taking a trillion dollars out of a $15 trillion economy would cause our economy to shrink [and] would put a lot of people out of work."

Mr. Paul proposed deeper cuts in federal spending than any of his rivals in the GOP nomination contest, rolling out a plan in October that called for $1 trillion in spending cuts during his year in office -- in part by closing federal agencies, attrition in the federal work force and ending the wars overseas.

"I think the easiest place to cut spending is overseas," Mr. Paul said at the time, reminding supporters that the nation has spent trillions in Iraq and Afghanistan. "It doesn’t make us safer. It doesn’t make us richer. It makes us poorer."

Mr. Paul's plan aims to cap federal spending at 15.5 percent of national GDP (it is currently about 25 percent of GDP) by 2016 and balance the budget in three years. Mr. Romney, meanwhile, has laid out a fiscal plan that aims to cap federal spending at 20 percent of GDP and bring the budget into balance by 2020. He, however, opposes cuts to military spending, which currently accounts for about 18 percent of federal outlays.

Speaking at a campaign stop last week in Portsmouth, Va., Mr. Romney drove home that point, saying he will add new ships to the U.S. Navy, add new aircraft to the Air Force and add 100,000 active duty personnel.
43. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Wed, 5/9/2012, 5:46AM EST
God Damned the Pusher Man.
44. Author: snowwolf777Date: Wed, 5/9/2012, 6:42PM EST
Please give me reason(s) NOT to vote for Romney!

Spray tan. Not in my White House, pal.

Not talking
45. Author: borndead1Date: Thu, 5/10/2012, 10:14AM EST
Stinkdyr wrote:
Romney = Obama = Bush = Clinton, etc

All socialists.


Give your wallet and your freedoms a break, vote Libertarian.


FREEDOM.....whatta radical concept.


Herfing



I agree. Unless RP pulls off a miracle, I will be voting for Gary Johnson.
46. Author: borndead1Date: Thu, 5/10/2012, 10:23AM EST
There's no substantial difference between Obama and Romney. On all the really BIG issues, they are the same.

Perpetual war
Deficit spending
Destruction of civil liberties
Monetary policy
Foreign policy
Entitlements

The debates are gonna be hilarious. Romney will be grasping at straws trying to make distinctions between himself and Obama.
47. Author: bloody spaniardDate: Thu, 5/10/2012, 1:59PM EST
This thread is beginning to make me queasy.Sick
48. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 5/10/2012, 2:05PM EST
I heard Romney has Sherrif Joe on his shortlist for veep!
49. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 5/10/2012, 2:58PM EST
Doubt it.

Sherrif Joe would find out Mittens is just as ineligible as Soetoro.
50. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Thu, 5/10/2012, 3:00PM EST
ZRX1200 wrote:
Doubt it.

Sherrif Joe would find out Mittens is just as ineligible as Soetoro.


Sherrif Joe better wear his vest 24/7!

The Kenyan King is gonna Breitbart him!
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