They'd prolly just hang out until you stopped feeding them...

Brilliant!

Ummm...what happened to my post?

Still like the one I saw last year:

"Obi wan kenobi for 2016 your our only hope"

Trump may have been just a catalyst...I don't see any posts talking about the owners, who each kicked in a cool million to The Donald and now say how disturbing his words are, being trashed like the athletes.

Are the owners not as fortunate as the players to have made fortunes in this great country? Are the monetarily fortunate supposed to give up their rights?

Some say they are praying, I don't question it, I don't call them dumb. I think these people are pretty aware, whether right or wrong, of exactly what they are doing and why.
Perhaps some of us are too angry and hurt to understand and it's easier to insult than listen.

You can't be serious.

Praying?
None of this had anything to do with praying.

Why pray DURING the Anthem?

This doesn't pass the sniff test.

AWESOME SAUCE

Kneel at the cross and stand for the flag!

I've been having a lot of trouble with this one the past couple days. I'd seen this posted by a "friend" on facebook before you mentioned it, and despite him having more questionable ideals than Tail, he seemed to think it was fake after a couple posts.

I tried tracking it back... it comes from a single article in Times, where they report "according to an NFL spokesman". Snopes is 50:50 on it, simply because they have no further evidence. I'm honestly not sure if it's true or not.

I can tell you with certainty that if Times reported "according to an NFL spokesman" on something you didn't agree with you'd refuse to believe it without seeing the document. And then someone here would say the document was forged.

I will say, to support the idea that the Operations manual may actually say that (or something similar) is the other point (which I also need documentation on) that the government began paying the NFL money in 2009 to have the players on the field for the national anthem. Now, if the NFL did actually contract with the government for this, I can see it being likely that an operations manual would instruct the players to be present (to protect the NFL from some breach of contract). However, IF that is the case, the wording of the operations manual is way more vague than I would expect. If you're trying to avoid breach of contract you don't say "should stand at attention"...

Longwinded ... TL/DR... I'm not 100% sure we should rest an argument on that statement.

"It appears some fans are confusing the league rulebook for the NFL Game Operations Manual, which includes nearly 200 pages of procedures and policy for regular-season games. Among the arcane details: each team must provide 600 towels and 500 pounds of ice to the visiting team.

In an email, Brian McCarthy, the NFL’s vice president of communications, shared the portion of the manual that addresses the anthem, and that language is what has been shared on social media but mistakenly attributed to the rulebook.

McCarthy stressed that passage about the national anthem is a guideline and not a requirement. The key words in the operations manual are “should” and “may” and not “must.” No player is required to stand at attention.


That’s why the league has never issued a punishment for a player who didn’t follow the recommendation.

“There is no discipline being considered for any action yesterday,” McCarthy said Monday.

Troy Vincent, the NFL’s executive vice president of football operations, told The Sporting News in March that “the league didn’t discuss setting a standard protocol for all players during the pregame playing of the anthem.”

That Sporting News story said Vincent told Vic Carucci and Alex Marvez: “Frankly, the players have that right. They’re asked (to stand), but not required.”

When former San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick sat down during the playing on the national anthem last year, the NFL issued this statement said the same thing: “Players are encouraged but not required to stand during the playing of the national anthem.”"


My understanding is the rule book governs player behavior etc. The operations manual is just that... an operations manual for the teams.


It all just comes down to political correctness and the incessant demand for PC from many in here.



By the way... isn't there an issue with holding the flag horizontal which is common?

gangsta lean?

actually its more about how folks drive... but I want it to apply

"A common driving position in which the driver holds the wheel with his left hand while leaning to his right toward the passenger seat, usually bobbing his head or bumpin' with the beat. It's a pretty badass way to drive. This move works best in a Chevy Caprice or any pimp-style car with a 3-person front seat."

its per the KC Star.... I don't know what's right or not and think we need to let all the PC warriors in here know that their outrage is duly noted.

noted

the black one?

It’s also worth pointing out this is the same NFL that fines players for wearing the wrong color socks or bringing onto the field a towel that is not licensed by the NFL.

In any event, we should dispense with the idea that NFL players enjoy some magical constitutional right to express themselves during pre-game ceremonies. They don’t.

http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/law-professor-stop-saying-football-players-have-constitutional-right-kneel-during-national

That's actually beneficial when you are shooting weak hand, unsupported. The recoil will only turn your wrist, but you remain on target, whereas if you hold the pistol upright... recoil takes you off target to the left.

to be fair, our president is an expert on failed sports leagues

I've heard them talk about how this was just a 'suggestion' but nobody mentions why they took the time to lay out the penalties if that were the case...


Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses.

TG:
Could not agree more. However I will go 1 step further. If you really hate America, do all the people that love our country a favor and get the Fug out and go to a country that you will like. I'm not talking to the people that have issue with America, I'm talking to the ones that actually hate this great country of ours.

Yeah.
I guess I shouldn't believe Colin Kaepernick's own words.

You probably think he's too dumb to know better because he's black.
But you would then add him to your friend count.

Right over your head. Maybe if you jump you can catch it.

How many players other than CK did you say in your post were not doing it because of police violence against blacks?

Yup.
Got your number.
We're usually in P10 but sometimes P11.

I have a new phone.
Inspired by Franks flip phone.

Still working on details.
Might be on stadium side instead of P10.
I'll let you know.