51. Author: tailgater | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 4:00PM EST | |
Speyside wrote:JJ, BS, you throw that out there, provide some proof or shut up! Your comment is offensive and you never back it up. Nazis are filth who would like to be part of the extreme right. They support Trump, they are white nationalists and so on. They are not accepted by any political or philosophical groups. I am tired of your idiotic comments. Back them up with facts. Nazis hate certain people for reasons that are irrelevant to politics. Labeling them under a political faction serves no purpose, except to bait and troll. You obviously have your panties in a knot because jj deflected their filth to the left. Then you clearly label them "right". Don't be that person. |
52. Author: MACS | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 5:06PM EST | |
victor809 wrote:And I've never said otherwise macs. I've said that was between the players and the owners and the president should stay the fxxx out (because guess what? He's the government.. once he gets involved it starts to reek of government pressure) Stating his opinion is gov't pressure? No. Using his position to do something... you know, such as auditing them with the IRS and stuff... that would be bad. |
53. Author: Brewha | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 5:16PM EST | |
MACS wrote:Right... freedom of speech (kneeling during the anthem) is not free from getting you fired, or free from millions of people to quit supporting your employers.
Consequences. Right - people gotta know they place. Hell, some folk don’t even knows they gotta sits at da back of duh bus.... |
54. Author: victor809 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 5:27PM EST | |
MACS... Gonna disagree with you there. A president stating their personal opinion is not "personal" any longer. A president does not have the same freedoms that an average citizen has. All other presidents recognized that, and you recognized it a couple years ago when you were angry at Obama for expressing his opinion about a cop who stopped a professor coming home.
When a president says something negative about a company (media?) An organization, another country, at trade agreement or even a person that carries with it the threat that there will be some government involvement. You liked it when Trump said this bullcrap about NATO or nafta... that same thing you like about him wielding his "power" in those cases is the same crap he shouldn't be doing when it has to do with citizens statements. |
55. Author: MACS | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 5:31PM EST | |
Don't presume to tell me what I recognize.
Obama had an opinion I disagreed with. Please tell me when I ever complained he was using his power as president to do anything? I didn't.
You can disagree with Trump all you want. When he uses his power (as Obama did with the IRS) let me know. |
56. Author: DrMaddVibe | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 5:36PM EST | |
victor809 wrote:MACS... Gonna disagree with you there. A president stating their personal opinion is not "personal" any longer. A president does not have the same freedoms that an average citizen has. All other presidents recognized that, and you recognized it a couple years ago when you were angry at Obama for expressing his opinion about a cop who stopped a professor coming home.
When a president says something negative about a company (media?) An organization, another country, at trade agreement or even a person that carries with it the threat that there will be some government involvement. You liked it when Trump said this bullcrap about NATO or nafta... that same thing you like about him wielding his "power" in those cases is the same crap he shouldn't be doing when it has to do with citizens statements. Wait...what??? |
57. Author: victor809 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 5:43PM EST | |
Macs... I'm pretty sure I read you saying it was inappropriate that Obama state his opinion on that police officer. Maybe it was someone else. It was a commonly stated thing in this forum at the time.
I'm pretty sure the IRS thing is a bunch of bs... not only that there's no credible link to Obama. So... not sure where you're getting news.... |
58. Author: Brewha | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 6:27PM EST | |
I have my (FOX) theories..... |
59. Author: Speyside | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 6:54PM EST | |
TG, after cooling down, my statements today reflect that hate groups are just that. Neither left nor right. ANTIFA wants to associate with liberals, but they just hate. Nazis want to associate with conservatives, but they just hate. |
60. Author: frankj1 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 7:19PM EST | |
MACS wrote:If it truly was a two way street, liberals would be denouncing antifa and blm, just like they want conservatives to denounce nazis (which most of us do, btw). No... they hold them up as social justice warriors.
They're not. can only speak for this lib, but I will agree and denounce violent tactics of the fringe left and other fake political representation on either side. I will, however, support nonviolent protests by even the most despicable groups among us. I reserve the right to support violence against oppressive government, for whatever good it would do us. |
61. Author: frankj1 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 7:22PM EST | |
rfenst wrote:Whatttttt??? ha! Just messing around. Bannon was the real choice of the neo nazis, they voted Trump hoping for his influence. |
62. Author: fishinguitarman | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 7:45PM EST | |
Yes! Punch Nazis!
And child molesters need to be hung upside down by their feet, their nuts cut off and salt poured in! |
63. Author: victor809 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 7:59PM EST | |
See... even fgm and I can agree on something.
Dunno why the rest of you had to make it a discussion... |
64. Author: fishinguitarman | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 8:01PM EST | |
victor809 wrote:See... even fgm and I can agree on something.
Dunno why the rest of you had to make it a discussion... LMAO! Finally! |
65. Author: frankj1 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 8:21PM EST | |
brought a tear to me eye, lads. |
66. Author: fishinguitarman | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 8:28PM EST | |
frankj1 wrote:brought a tear to me eye, lads. WOW! |
67. Author: frankj1 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 8:39PM EST | |
I'm a bleeding heart guy |
68. Author: DrafterX | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 9:13PM EST | |
I bet Ben Carson voted Trump.. is he a nazi..?? |
69. Author: frankj1 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 9:26PM EST | |
ya got it discombobulated.
all nazis voted for Trump, but not all Trump voters are nazis
Carson is a narcoleptic. |
70. Author: DrafterX | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 9:31PM EST | |
Who'd he nark out..?? |
71. Author: frankj1 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 9:34PM EST | |
dunno. hasn't uttered a sound in months. |
72. Author: DrafterX | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 9:35PM EST | |
He's prolly looking for CROS.. |
73. Author: xibbumbero | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 9:55PM EST | |
jjanecka wrote:QUIT CALLING NAZIS ALT-RIGHT, THEY WILL BE FOREVER PART OF THE LEFTIST IDEOLOGY. Sorry but Nazi's have always been right wing facists. X |
74. Author: DrafterX | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 9:58PM EST | |
How many Nazis you know..?? |
75. Author: DrafterX | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 10:02PM EST | |
Seems to me they have alot in common with liberal Extremists.. think my way or else.. And note the word Extremists... |
76. Author: DrafterX | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 10:06PM EST | |
I find it really interesting Hillary chose the word 'Resistance' for her new party... |
77. Author: frankj1 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 10:10PM EST | |
DrafterX wrote:Seems to me they have alot in common with liberal Extremists.. think my way or else.. And note the word Extremists... my way or else is a common theme among many intolerant groups, this could include religions and even private golf clubs. I think you may be missing the point, and the Nazis have no peers. Shouting them down at "free speech" rallies is not close to equivalent. |
78. Author: DrafterX | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 10:18PM EST | |
Not defending nazis by any means here... I'm just not convinced they are Republicans. |
79. Author: DrafterX | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 10:19PM EST | |
Which seems to be what is implied here.. .. |
80. Author: victor809 | Date: Sun, 10/22/2017, 11:34PM EST | |
Drafter... the nazi in the quote claimed allegiance with the alt right. You want to disagree with what party he's in, take it up with him.
Why the hell would it be anyone else's job to prove he's not a liberal?
All the alt right had to do was actively and vocally (and physically) get them out of their rallies or free speech events... they appreciated the extra numbers and I think the alt right finds them fun and edgy. It's part of that whole pepe the frog thing they like to throw around. |
81. Author: JadeRose | Date: Mon, 10/23/2017, 6:21AM EST | |
Jesus......how can there be a discussion that has gone into a second page over whether it's ok to punch Nazis?
IT'S ALWAYS OK TO PUNCH NAZIS. HARD AND OFTEN. I COULDN'T GIVE 2 TIN SHITS ABOUT THE POLITICAL PARTY SOMEONE WEARING A SWASTIKA IS AFFILIATED WITH. AS LONG AS THEY ARE BEING PUNCHED.
and yes...I would go to jail for punching a Nazi
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82. Author: rfenst | Date: Mon, 10/23/2017, 8:38AM EST | |
xibbumbero wrote:Sorry but Nazi's have always been right wing facists. X YES. |
83. Author: tailgater | Date: Mon, 10/23/2017, 8:43AM EST | |
Speyside wrote:TG, after cooling down, my statements today reflect that hate groups are just that. Neither left nor right. ANTIFA wants to associate with liberals, but they just hate. Nazis want to associate with conservatives, but they just hate. You are correct. Although it does make for stimulating discussions. |
84. Author: dstieger | Date: Mon, 10/23/2017, 8:52AM EST | |
tailgater wrote:Nazis hate certain people for reasons that are irrelevant to politics. Labeling them under a political faction serves no purpose, except to bait and troll.
You obviously have your panties in a knot because jj deflected their filth to the left. Then you clearly label them "right". Don't be that person.
The day your advice gets widely taken....will be the day the cbid Politics Forum dies....or at least gets really fn boring |
85. Author: tailgater | Date: Mon, 10/23/2017, 8:53AM EST | |
So some nazi groups consider themselves alt-right. Who cares?
The majority of child molestors are left wing nut jobs. Doesn't mean anything.
Punch them both. Punch them twice, in case I don't get the opportunity.
And stop associating today's American political factions with these reprehensible scum. It speaks more about one's own inadequacy than anything else. loud and clear.
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86. Author: tailgater | Date: Mon, 10/23/2017, 8:55AM EST | |
dstieger wrote: The day your advice gets widely taken....will be the day the cbid Politics Forum dies....or at least gets really fn boring I don't even take my advice. |
87. Author: Gene363 | Date: Mon, 10/23/2017, 10:06AM EST | |
tailgater wrote:So some nazi groups consider themselves alt-right. Who cares?
The majority of child molestors are left wing nut jobs. Doesn't mean anything.
Punch them both. Punch them twice, in case I don't get the opportunity.
And stop associating today's American political factions with these reprehensible scum. It speaks more about one's own inadequacy than anything else. loud and clear.
True |
88. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Mon, 10/23/2017, 7:45PM EST | |
Oh the old's daysssss.... Back in Argentina... Gotta love a beer hall filled with celebrating NAZI's... Scurrying like rats in a maze ... Ratta tat tat...tat tat...reload...
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