| 1. Author: Speyside | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 7:59PM EST | |
(CNN) Former Trump campaign adviser Rick Gates is finalizing a plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller's office, indicating he's poised to cooperate in the investigation, according to sources familiar |
| 2. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 8:03PM EST | |
Is this another process crime like Flynn, where he actually committed no crime of lying to the FBI but copped to the plea anyways......some evil schit going down in the swamp. |
| 3. Author: banderl | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 8:09PM EST | |
Lock him up!
Lock him up!
Lock him up! |
| 4. Author: banderl | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 8:15PM EST | |
ZRX1200 wrote:Is this another process crime like Flynn, where he actually committed no crime of lying to the FBI but copped to the plea anyways......some evil schit going down in the swamp. Since Flynn is cooperating with the investigation, they gave him a break by just charging him with lying to the FBI. I'm sure that there are more serious charges available for Mueller to use, if need be. That's how this stuff works. |
| 5. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 8:22PM EST | |
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXSKFqp6jM |
| 6. Author: banderl | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 8:37PM EST | |
ZRX1200 wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RSXSKFqp6jM Just trying to help with your education about these things. |
| 7. Author: Speyside | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 8:50PM EST | |
Z, if I understand it right Flynn could have be charged under the Logan act. The article I read was not specific on what Gates did or didn't do. |
| 8. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 8:54PM EST | |
Yeah, good luck with that....tell me again how many times someone has been convicted using that unconstitutional "law". If you know the details anyways you know that was past thin.
Bob I was joking with you buddy......I appreciate your passion. |
| 9. Author: Speyside | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:00PM EST | |
Didn't say it was good or bad, just thought that would be the logical charge. |
| 10. Author: banderl | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:03PM EST | |
The Logan act isn't it.
I'm sure that Mueller has a litany of charges for all of these guys.
Money laundering is probably at the top of the list for Gates. |
| 11. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:07PM EST | |
You're sure of it. That's good enough for me. |
| 12. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:12PM EST | |
Flynn plead even though he did nothing wrong just because he’s a dumb ass?
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| 13. Author: banderl | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:16PM EST | |
ZRX1200 wrote:You're sure of it. That's good enough for me. Time will tell. |
| 14. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:17PM EST | |
I think gates has all sorts of legal issues in front of him. |
| 15. Author: frankj1 | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:25PM EST | |
soooo much money |
| 16. Author: banderl | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:32PM EST | |
teedubbya wrote:I think gates has all sorts of legal issues in front of him. Not if he flips. |
| 17. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:35PM EST | |
Flynn and his son were looking at many years in jail as are manafort and gates. Pappysnappydude was too. They chose door number 3 and didn’t do it because they did nothing wrong but process. |
| 18. Author: banderl | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:41PM EST | |
Flynn saved his a-hole kid's azz and is only looking at 5 years for himself. |
| 19. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:41PM EST | |
I'm so glad you're out there telling the truth teedubya. |
| 20. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:47PM EST | |
If you beleive Flynn did nothing wrong and was framed by procedure and plead just to plead because of that then good on you. I don’t beleive that. It takes an awful lot of reality bending and a lot of faith in trump and his crony’s being the only truthful ones.
Flynn was dirty and got caught. He and pappy were the start. Manafort stinks to high heaven and folks new it at the time. That’s no secret. |
| 21. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:48PM EST | |
It defy logic that they are clean yet plead. |
| 22. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:50PM EST | |
And I’m not even prepared to say trump did anything wrong. But these folks pleading did. You don’t plead to a greater charge.
Trump says taking the fifth means guilt. These folks are pleading guilty to lesser charges and cooperating. |
| 23. Author: Speyside | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:50PM EST | |
I don't think this is anywhere near over. You don't get a deal unless you have something worth dealing for. |
| 24. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:52PM EST | |
Speyside wrote:I don't think this is anywhere near over. You don't get a deal unless you have something worth dealing for. And have done something wrong and stand a substantial risk of the prosecutor proving it |
| 25. Author: frankj1 | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:52PM EST | |
tw- Flynn had nothing to worry about. He was under the Cohen of Protection...oh, wait.
never mind. |
| 26. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:52PM EST | |
frankj1 wrote:tw- Flynn had nothing to worry about. He was under the Cohen of Protection...oh, wait.
never mind. Lol It was his own fun of course |
| 27. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 9:59PM EST | |
The thing that really cuts through fake news and spin is the law of parsimony. Mueller is and always has been a straight shooting Republican with a clean reputation even with some of the people throwing diversionary flares now. I don’t buy the he turned evil deep state crap and trump is the knight in shining white armor and the only one truthful crap. It doesn’t add up.
As I said, trump may be clean. Flynn, manafort, Gates, pappy snappy are not. All but manafort have or are on the cusp of admitting guilt. We don’t have to guess. Others may follow. |
| 28. Author: Speyside | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 10:04PM EST | |
Hah, that there is funny stuff Frank. Thanks for the laugh. |
| 29. Author: frankj1 | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 10:06PM EST | |
Speyside wrote:Hah, that there is funny stuff Frank. Thanks for the laugh. I've been getting a lot of mileage out of that Cohen thing |
| 30. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 10:13PM EST | |
Yeah just like Scooter Libby right teedubya?
Gimme a digging break. |
| 31. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 10:16PM EST | |
Libby has nothing to do with this. This is about Flynn, Gates, pappy and manny. libby’s Case was his own and nothing but a yea but diversion.
These guys are admitting guilt to lessor charges. We do not have to guess. It’s not complicated. |
| 32. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 10:19PM EST | |
I’ll see your just like scooter and raise a yea but OJ. Maybe these guys should use the scooter or Chewbacca defense.
Irrelevant but fun. |
| 33. Author: Speyside | Date: Thu, 2/15/2018, 10:28PM EST | |
Z, stop obfuscating. You are deflecting like Teflon tonight. If you could only get on topic and contain your comments to but look what Hillary did.  |
| 34. Author: banderl | Date: Sun, 2/18/2018, 5:08PM EST | |
Rick has agreed to squeal.
Look out Manafort. |
| 35. Author: DrafterX | Date: Sun, 2/18/2018, 5:45PM EST | |
Snitches get stitches...  |
| 36. Author: teedubbya | Date: Sun, 2/18/2018, 8:54PM EST | |
Does it really make it tighter? |
| 37. Author: DrafterX | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 1:17PM EST | |
If it's not tight it could be a personal problem... |
| 38. Author: Speyside | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 1:37PM EST | |
Well, you do know what gay men say when they hear a loud fart. Virgin. |
| 39. Author: delta1 | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:02PM EST | |
Something about Trump...he is able to inflict temporary blindness, deafness and specific anosmia on some previously rational people...especially those who are predisposed to accept being ruled by a wealthy self serving leader... |
| 40. Author: paulkeck | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:12PM EST | |
delta1 wrote:Something about Trump...he is able to inflict temporary blindness, deafness and specific anosmia on some previously rational people...especially those who are predisposed to accept being ruled by a wealthy self serving leader... Only ones to blame on that is the dems for having that ignorant dirt bag Killary running against him. |
| 41. Author: teedubbya | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:43PM EST | |
Not the only ones but definitely part of the problem. But I think we can also blame folks that actually voted for him. |
| 42. Author: paulkeck | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:44PM EST | |
teedubbya wrote:Not the only ones but definitely part of the problem. But I think we can also blame folks that actually voted for him. Like most Americans, I would rather have him than her. |
| 43. Author: teedubbya | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:49PM EST | |
Well we have him. It’s not my fault though. |
| 44. Author: Phil222 | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:49PM EST | |
paulkeck wrote:Like most Americans, I would rather have him than her. I think most Americans voted for her...  |
| 45. Author: Cathcam13 | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:53PM EST | |
This American definitely didn’t vote for her there’s no way I would see that woman in office I would vote for a dog before I voted for her |
| 46. Author: teedubbya | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:53PM EST | |
Actually that is true lol. |
| 47. Author: Cathcam13 | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:54PM EST | |
As for the rest of the country I don’t know what happen and I don’t care either way I doubt will really ever know the truth on this one |
| 48. Author: paulkeck | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:54PM EST | |
Phil222 wrote:I think most Americans voted for her... Well if that's the case which very well could be, That's the best argument people can use that your vote doesn't count. |
| 49. Author: delta1 | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 2:57PM EST | |
Sorry, not most...he seems to only have the support of 35-40% of the American public, according to the polls that measure his approval since he took office...
I seem to recall that the election had a three million difference in the number of votes between the candidates...Trump got 3 million fewer votes...that's a lot less than "most"
but he did win, in the way it matters most, by winning more states and by getting the most electoral votes. |
| 50. Author: Phil222 | Date: Mon, 2/19/2018, 3:01PM EST | |
delta1 wrote:but he did win, in the way it matters most, by winning more states and by getting the most electoral votes. We need to toss the electoral college and enact rank choice voting. |
