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Goodbye Conservatives
1. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Thu, 3/22/2018, 3:05PM EST
You've just doomed your mid-terms to defend the President.

That's all you can run on now. Tax cuts don't mean a damned thing when you're spending like drunken...to say sailors is an insult to them!


This new spending bill is a total entitlement giveaway. I really hope the President vetoes it. He probably won't but he should.
2. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 3/22/2018, 4:41PM EST
I hope he does as well.
3. Author: Gene363Date: Thu, 3/22/2018, 4:58PM EST
Vetos the bill and shoves up the collective asses in the parliament of whores.
4. Author: Bruins617Date: Thu, 3/22/2018, 11:05PM EST
If the bill passes the senate in its current form it’ll be vetoed the president had already said he will veto it if they leave the 900 million dollars allotted for a tunnel between NY and NJ so let’s hope it passes the senate in its current form
5. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 3/22/2018, 11:54PM EST
It passed the senate.
6. Author: BuckwheatDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 7:40AM EST
Cry Baby Cry
7. Author: teedubbyaDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 7:48AM EST
I’ve not heard anything about a veto.

There is no such thing as a conservative in the Republican Party anymore. I guess it makes sense that their leader is neither a Republican or conservative.
8. Author: dstiegerDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 8:58AM EST
teedubbya wrote:

There is no such thing as a conservative in the Republican Party anymore.



Rand Paul was exactly right last night. Good interview on Fox....look it up if you didn't see it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00pE7XfEQI

"This could have been written by President Obama and liberal democrats....when the republicans are out of power, when they're in the majority, they're the conservative party, when they get the majority, there is no conservative party. Democrats don't care about spending any of the time; republicans SEEM to care about it when they're criticizing democrats"....."It's an unholy alliance...."we have TOO much compromise...to raise spending and increase the debt'

9. Author: Gene363Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 9:06AM EST
teedubbya wrote:
I’ve not heard anything about a veto.

There is no such thing as a conservative in the Republican Party anymore. I guess it makes sense that their leader is neither a Republican or conservative.


Quote:
Donald J. Trump
(@realDonaldTrump)
I am considering a VETO of the Omnibus Spending Bill based on the fact that the 800,000 plus DACA recipients have been totally abandoned by the Democrats (not even mentioned in Bill) and the BORDER WALL, which is desperately needed for our National Defense, is not fully funded.
10. Author: Gene363Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 9:25AM EST
dstieger wrote:
Rand Paul was exactly right last night. Good interview on Fox....look it up if you didn't see it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n00pE7XfEQI

"This could have been written by President Obama and liberal democrats....when the republicans are out of power, when they're in the majority, they're the conservative party, when they get the majority, there is no conservative party. Democrats don't care about spending any of the time; republicans SEEM to care about it when they're criticizing democrats"....."It's an unholy alliance...."we have TOO much compromise...to raise spending and increase the debt'



Sad and true.
11. Author: ZRX1200Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 9:36AM EST
He read as much as he could last nigh, tweeting what he found.
12. Author: delta1Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 12:05PM EST
Is Trump threatening to veto the budget because he wants more spending on DACA and the wall?
13. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 12:20PM EST
delta1 wrote:
Is Trump threatening to veto the budget because he wants more spending on DACA and the wall?



Nobody gives a rats ass about DACA.

The Schummer Shutdown PROVED it.
14. Author: ZRX1200Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 12:26PM EST
1 p.m. announcement, so ds like it's a signing.


A VERY STUPID SIGNING. THE establishment is stabbing cheeto in the back.
15. Author: ZRX1200Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 12:39PM EST
So he's TRUMPeting the spending bills military increase....and signing this debacle.
16. Author: dstiegerDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 12:46PM EST
Welcome to the swamp, Mr. Trump.


I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
-George Bernard Shaw Quotes.
17. Author: teedubbyaDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 12:54PM EST
Gene363 wrote:
number nine....number nine...number nine



It was BS. That was my point. There was no real threat just show.

He at least got one mind numbed trumpbot (not you Gene) sucked in to believing him. They were duped.

I loved the no one has read this line (including him) and that it's everybody's fault but his. This is a guy that has never EVER taken personal responsibility leading the party of personal responsibility.

Horrible budget. May as well have Dems controlling both houses and the Presidency rather than none of the above yet it's their fault.

Crazy. But he's great and its not his fault.
18. Author: Gene363Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 1:28PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
It was BS. That was my point. There was no real threat just show.

He at least got one mind numbed trumpbot (not you Gene) sucked in to believing him. They were duped.

I loved the no one has read this line (including him) and that it's everybody's fault but his. This is a guy that has never EVER taken personal responsibility leading the party of personal responsibility.

Horrible budget. May as well have Dems controlling both houses and the Presidency rather than none of the above yet it's their fault.

Crazy. But he's great and its not his fault.



d'oh! I would have been quite happy to see a gouberment shutdown.

So, turns out Stormy Daniels wasn't the only whore Trump was covering with, now it's all those sh|t bad members of the parliament of whores.
19. Author: teedubbyaDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 2:45PM EST
He and his staff negotiated this deal. They were not outside bystanders.

20. Author: ZRX1200Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 3:16PM EST
^ I would have to agree and I'm really curious what we don't know. Not in a support cheeto way, but a WTF is going on way. Anyone who sponsored this trash needs to go, as does anyone who supported it. Turning in 2332 pages without time to be read should bother EVERY US CITIZEN.
21. Author: ZRX1200Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 3:16PM EST
Senate gave themselves a nice raise.
22. Author: KawakDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 5:18PM EST
Dear ISIS,

If you ever do get WMDs please start in DC.
23. Author: teedubbyaDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 5:24PM EST
Kawak wrote:
Dear ISIS,

If you ever do get WMDs please start in DC.



WTF. Zero respect from me on that one.
24. Author: delta1Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 5:45PM EST
DrMaddVibe wrote:
Nobody gives a rats ass about DACA.

The Schummer Shutdown PROVED it.



Here's Trump's tweet about his initial reaction to the proposed bill:


"@realDonaldTrump
Follow Follow @realDonaldTrump
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I am considering a VETO of the Omnibus Spending Bill based on the fact that the 800,000 plus DACA recipients have been totally abandoned by the Democrats (not even mentioned in Bill) and the BORDER WALL, which is desperately needed for our National Defense, is not fully funded.

5:55 AM - 23 Mar 2018"



His words...as if they really mattered...

as usual he changed his mind a few hours later and signed the bill............Nobody gives a rats ass about DACA.
25. Author: DrafterXDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 5:53PM EST
I have some thoughts on this but I'm not allowed to share them... Mellow
26. Author: delta1Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:01PM EST
I guess I'm supposed to be happy because the govt. is gonna spend so much of our tax dollars...but it's hard to see my con friends so upset at their own leaders...what was that weird alt universe in Superman's universe?....bizarro...
27. Author: KawakDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:06PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
WTF. Zero respect from me on that one.


Bummer...please validate me...Sarcasm
28. Author: delta1Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:10PM EST
yas gotsa buy sumthin first.....n then the validation is only good for two hours...
29. Author: teedubbyaDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:11PM EST
i know you don’t want anyone to respect your thoughts. We are both cool with that I suspect.

Statements like that put you firmly in the Timothy McVeigh category.
30. Author: ZRX1200Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:15PM EST
Yeah delta, we should circle our leaders and blame the left instead of holding them accountable.
31. Author: teedubbyaDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:36PM EST
I think it’s nice to see the blame applied across the board. Seems somehow realistic.

In here seeing the Iraq war for what it was made me a liberal.
32. Author: Gene363Date: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:43PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
I think it’s nice to see the blame applied across the board. Seems somehow realistic.

In here seeing the Iraq war for what it was made me a liberal.


"Bipartisanship" the taxpayer is really going to take it up the you know.
33. Author: KawakDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:48PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
i know you don’t want anyone to respect your thoughts. We are both cool with that I suspect.

Statements like that put you firmly in the Timothy McVeigh category.


I was thinking more Jefferson or Washington but ok
34. Author: teedubbyaDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:54PM EST
No wanting wmds delivered on dc is definitely more mcveigh than Jefferson or Washington even if mcveigh equated himself to them.

It’s effed up man.
35. Author: teedubbyaDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 6:59PM EST
I dont recall Jefferson or Washington encouraging an enemy to kill Americans that disagree with them.

In this case Kawak you are a douche and a traitor. Certainly not an American.
36. Author: SpeysideDate: Fri, 3/23/2018, 10:09PM EST
Kawak, sounds like you are proud of your statement. Zyklon B was a weapon of mass destruction. It was used in places like Belzec, Sobibor, Treblinka, and Auschwitz. Does this make you proud?
37. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Sat, 3/24/2018, 11:33AM EST
delta1 wrote:
I guess I'm supposed to be happy because the govt. is gonna spend so much of our tax dollars...but it's hard to see my con friends so upset at their own leaders...what was that weird alt universe in Superman's universe?....bizarro...


Bizzaro? It's the DNC way. Pelosi and Schummer were claiming it a VICTORY!

Why are you bitching? Planned Parenthood got their half a billion dollars! The House is getting their bonuses. Happy days are here again.

My main gripe of the last administration was it's out of control spending. The GOP kept on saying if we had the house we'd reign it in. They got the house. They didn't. They cried if we only had the White House we'd be able to deliver for you. The got it...kind of.

Trump displayed that he's a really bad manager of our nation by not vetoing the bill. He could've pushed for just a military bill. Didn't do it. Why it's just like when you're playing with the house's money...you don't care if you lose some. Hell, the addicts will double down and bet wildly on comeback rallys that never happen. Eventually they open the wallets...dump it on plastic. Max out all lines of credit...then...they start selling it all to keep on playing. Don't believe me? Next time you're in Vegas count how many pawn shops there are in relation to casinos.

Like I stated in my OP on this. He should've vetoed it. So what if the government shuts down. Nobody is going to cry because he shut it down over putting 1.3 trillion on the card.

As for DACA...Trump can't do a damned thing...legally. The DNC haven't crafted any legislation besides open theft of citizenship and the GOP isn't writing one either stating "get in line and do it the legal way!". There's no hot potato issue with it. Just a lot of butthurtfeelyohma. Crying isn't helping those illegals one damned bit.

The GOP will lose more seats than they ever imagined with this reckless abuse of power. They have nothing to stand for anymore. They might as well admit it to the public what we've all been saying...there's no difference between the parties. They read from the same playbook. The only sensibility to the insanity that crept in once and awhile was the conservative principals. Strong military, following the Constitution and restrained spending.


38. Author: delta1Date: Sat, 3/24/2018, 1:06PM EST
it was the President who mentioned DACA in his first tweet about this budget... nobody else, so it's obviously on his mind...

I'm not bitching...just pointing out the pained bitching by my con friends...I understand how you feel ... that you've been fooled and let down... you got the President, Congress, and the Supreme Court, and yet you don't get what you want...bizarro...


I had similar regrets about Obama, especially when he let all the fat cats who screwed the economy off the hook, watching and helping them get fatter while the little guy (me and you) ended up paying the bill...but Obama was fought vigorously, every step of the way, by a GOP Congress...so my expectations weren't as bright...


This is an indication that there is no real right and left, our economy and the political system is so deeply mired in "same old same old" that it'll take some sort of catastrophe worse than the Great Recession to shake the foundation. The left will sell it's version of the dream and the right will sell theirs...the budget seems to show the US is more moderate than left or right leaning...Ryan and McConnell were more happy than Chuck and Nancy...
39. Author: DrMaddVibeDate: Sat, 3/24/2018, 2:02PM EST
delta1 wrote:
it was the President who mentioned DACA in his first tweet about this budget... nobody else, so it's obviously on his mind...

I'm not bitching...just pointing out the pained bitching by my con friends...I understand how you feel ... that you've been fooled and let down... you got the President, Congress, and the Supreme Court, and yet you don't get what you want...bizarro...


I had similar regrets about Obama, especially when he let all the fat cats who screwed the economy off the hook, watching and helping them get fatter while the little guy (me and you) ended up paying the bill...but Obama was fought vigorously, every step of the way, by a GOP Congress...so my expectations weren't as bright...


This is an indication that there is no real right and left, our economy and the political system is so deeply mired in "same old same old" that it'll take some sort of catastrophe worse than the Great Recession to shake the foundation. The left will sell it's version of the dream and the right will sell theirs...the budget seems to show the US is more moderate than left or right leaning...Ryan and McConnell were more happy than Chuck and Nancy...



Trump can tell you the sun is deep blue too. He doesn't have any power to do a thing. He can push an agenda but he cannot create a law by himself. DACA was because the Kenyan King scribbled out an executive order and got us in this mess to begin with!

Let's just back off the preconceived notions for a second. I wasn't fooled. Trump is no GOP conservative, he's a Democrat and up until this last election cycle that's all he ever was! I didn't vote for him and I didn't support his candidacy one bit! If anyone is fooled its YOU! He's YOUR guy! Yet you and all the usual suspects are ready to burn the nation to the ground because Trump walked all over that carpetbagging bitch!

The GOP with Paul Ryan has been a constant disappointment. He hasn't done a damned thing correct.

The Great Recession is on it's way. This last spending bill all but pushed it off the cliff.

The Blue Dogs were slaughtered to make way for the Pro-Choice/Anti-Gun stooge the DNC is so proud to wrap their arms around. The conservatives in the GOP number almost 10. There is no conservative agenda being rammed down anyone's throat here. This is a clear cut spending bill from the Democrat playbook. See it for what it is, and it's no wonder why Trump didn't veto it. New York had to get their tunnel paid for by every other American taxpayer that doesn't even live in the state!!!!

Now, in that bill they also won't put another spending bill up for Trump so there won't be any wall. That's smoke and mirrors for the people that voted for him. If it were up to me and I've said it here thousands of times our borders would have...say it with me...Landmines, Gun Turrets and Predator Drones. I'd even toss in a few catapults as well. toss back those that want to cross the border illegally and kill Americans...yeah, have a seat right here bad hombre.

Ryan and McConnell weren't happy by the way. They're stupid. They really think they did a great job for America.
40. Author: SpeysideDate: Sat, 3/24/2018, 3:49PM EST
Anyone who thinks politicians will keep their word get what they deserve. Our government is driven by special interest groups.
41. Author: ZRX1200Date: Sat, 3/24/2018, 4:21PM EST
As long as McConnell is getting that Chinese money funneled to his family he'll sign anything that runs the USA in the ground. He's a POS that needs to go badly.
42. Author: delta1Date: Sat, 3/24/2018, 4:52PM EST
It took a GOP Congressional budget bill to show the libs and cons here that we have a lot more in common besides a love for cigars, booze, rock and roll and pretty girls with nice ...................smiles...


Herfing Beer
43. Author: dstiegerDate: Tue, 3/27/2018, 2:47PM EST
No clue the veracity of the 'leaks' yet.....but the story is just too perfect:

For all his puffed out chesty bluster...suggesting that he'd sink the American ship in order to prop up the military...save it from the dire straits....Trump (in 'private' meetings) has supposedly suggested that since the military is now flush with cash....well, maybe the pentagon should buy President Trump a wall from the largess he just handed them...may not even be true, but going to be way too good a story for MSM to ignore...and yes, I'm pretty upset about the leaks, but this is comedic gold, just the same
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