151. Author: deadeyedick | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 12:28PM EST | |
Speyside wrote:Hurricane quantity has not increased. Hurricane severity has increased. Most studies refute your statement. This is not to say severity will not increase in the future but the peer-reviewed studies to date are inconclusive: "Some recent scientific articles have reported a large increase in tropical cyclone energy, numbers, and wind-speeds in some regions during the last few decades in association with warmer sea surface temperatures. Other studies report that changes in observational techniques and instrumentation are responsible for these increases. 1. Though there is evidence both for and against the existence of a detectable anthropogenic signal in the tropical cyclone climate record to date, no firm conclusion can be made on this point. 2. No individual tropical cyclone can be directly attributed to climate change. 3. The recent increase in societal impact from tropical cyclones has largely been caused by rising concentrations of population and infrastructure in coastal regions. 4. Tropical cyclone wind-speed monitoring has changed dramatically over the last few decades, leading to difficulties in determining accurate trends. 5. There is an observed multi-decadal variability of tropical cyclones in some regions whose causes, whether natural, anthropogenic or a combination, are currently being debated. This variability makes detecting any long-term trends in tropical cyclone activity difficult. 6. It is likely that some increase in tropical cyclone peak wind-speed and rainfall will occur if the climate continues to warm. Model studies and theory project a 3-5% increase in wind-speed per degree Celsius increase of tropical sea surface temperatures. 7. There is an inconsistency between the small changes in wind-speed projected by theory and modeling versus large changes reported by some observational studies. 8. Although recent climate model simulations project a decrease or no change in global tropical cyclone numbers in a warmer climate, there is low confidence in this projection. In addition, it is unknown how tropical cyclone tracks or areas of impact will change in the future. 9. Large regional variations exist in methods used to monitor tropical cyclones. Also, most regions have no measurements by instrumented aircraft. These significant limitations will continue to make detection of trends difficult. 10. If the projected rise in sea level due to global warming occurs, then the vulnerability to tropical cyclone storm surge flooding would increase." |
152. Author: delta1 | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 3:28PM EST | |
^ that article was from 2006...
here's a more recent study, that draws different conclusions:
https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/ |
153. Author: RMAN4443 | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 3:33PM EST | |
opelmanta1900 wrote:Gentleman, if you will indulge me, I do believe I can get us all in on the ground floor investment of the power source of the future...
Hamsters... That's right, hamsters...
Cute and cuddly playmate for the kids, sure... But twenty years from now, hamsters will be powering everything from the lights in your house to the engine in your car...
With minimal nutritional needs and an insatiable appetite for reproduction matched only by the Jack rabbit, hamsters are a perfect, near self-sustaining source of universal power... And they burn twice as clean as coal... What about hamster farts?...they may be smaller than cows, but it sounds like there's going to more of them... are we going to need to regulate the Hamster Farts? |
154. Author: Speyside | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 3:45PM EST | |
Plenty of studies today show an increase in hurricane severity. |
155. Author: DrafterX | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 3:59PM EST | |
But we don't have a good recorded history to verify that... |
156. Author: dstieger | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 4:03PM EST | |
All the more reason to argue about it |
157. Author: DrafterX | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 4:06PM EST | |
I'll show yo momma hurricane severity..!! |
158. Author: opelmanta1900 | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 4:09PM EST | |
I'll tell you right now, you throw 2 or 3 million hamsters into a hurricane, the weight of the hamsters alone is enough to stop that thing dead in its tracks... Tornadoes too... You give em 5, maybe 6 minutes and they'll have that thing spinning in the total opposite direction... |
159. Author: DrafterX | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 4:10PM EST | |
Screw the hamsters..!! |
160. Author: opelmanta1900 | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 4:14PM EST | |
No way man... They're the future... |
161. Author: Mrs. dpnewell | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 6:17PM EST | |
I heard that when the magnetic poles flip, hamsters will be the only creatures to survive.
David |
162. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 6:43PM EST | |
Yeah but Richard Gere won’t be spitting rhymes..... |
163. Author: deadeyedick | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 7:30PM EST | |
delta1 wrote:^ that article was from 2006...
here's a more recent study, that draws different conclusions:
https://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/global-warming-and-hurricanes/ Thanks Al. I read through that study but not once did I find it to say they HAVE INCREASED. Many times it stated they are expected to increase or the models predict an increase or it is likely that they will increase. That is certainly likely given that warmer water is proven to increase intensity and the oceans are warming. |
164. Author: victor809 | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 7:45PM EST | |
I wouldn't be comfortable saying they have increased.
If you look at the actual data over time, there's enough variation year to year that it's statistically feasible to see what looks like an increase over a 5or 10 year time that's just standard variation.
They may have. The currently understood science would indicate they have. But I didn't see any data saying with confidence that they have . |
165. Author: tailgater | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 9:18PM EST | |
dstieger wrote:All the more reason to argue about it |
166. Author: tailgater | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 9:22PM EST | |
victor809 wrote:I wouldn't be comfortable saying they have increased.
If you look at the actual data over time, there's enough variation year to year that it's statistically feasible to see what looks like an increase over a 5or 10 year time that's just standard variation.
They may have. The currently understood science would indicate they have. But I didn't see any data saying with confidence that they have . From what I've read, it appears any short term bump is statistically insignificant. I have read very little, however, regarding the intensity. Conservative sites poo-poo it. Liberal sites "confirm" it. And the MSM just assumes it. |
167. Author: Mrs. dpnewell | Date: Wed, 2/13/2019, 11:43PM EST | |
Back to the OP.
A few days ago, one of Cortez's advisors where on Carlton Tucker's show (I saw it on YouTube as I don't watch Fox). He made the claim that the fact sheet that she had posted on her web site for over a day, had actually been a hoax put out by Republicans. Then in one interview, Cortez stated that her plan would require massive government intervention. 6 hours later in another interview, she claimed that government would have little involvement in the plan and that private investment would drive it. You can't make this stuff up.
David |
168. Author: victor809 | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 12:17AM EST | |
I'm pretty sure no one who has supported trumpenfeurher and his ridiculous inconsistencies has a leg to stand on when complaining about inconsistent statements from any other politician.
And that includes you David. |
169. Author: Mrs. dpnewell | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 9:39AM EST | |
Yes, well, I love you too, man.
David
Edited to add: Oh crap, did I just assume your pronoun? My sincere apologies. |
170. Author: victor809 | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 12:22PM EST | |
And a happy Valentine's day to you too, you sensitive little flower. |
171. Author: DrafterX | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 1:19PM EST | |
victor809 wrote:And a happy Valentine's day to you too, I want to be de-flowered. |
172. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 2:39PM EST | |
Drafter put tulips on my organ once |
173. Author: DrafterX | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 3:00PM EST | |
You wish... |
174. Author: teedubbya | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 3:06PM EST | |
DrafterX wrote:You wish is my command... No thank you |
175. Author: delta1 | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 3:26PM EST | |
can we agree on this? there are too many people on the planet and the numbers are creating conflict... and if the population continues to increase, the problems will be more severe... |
176. Author: DrafterX | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 3:29PM EST | |
There's an easy fix if that's the problem... |
177. Author: Speyside | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 3:38PM EST | |
You and Frank? |
178. Author: opelmanta1900 | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 4:16PM EST | |
delta1 wrote:can we agree on this? there are too many people on the planet and the numbers are creating conflict... and if the population continues to increase, the problems will be more severe... In truth, I don't agree with this at all... And it's not supported by data... The world has a ton of unused real estate and a ton of uneaten animals... If anything, the problem is los Angeles, new York, San Francisco... People living on top of people on top of people on top of people... The sheer number of people overwhelm local resources forcing them to steal things - like water - from other parts of the state, putting the unnecessary burden of things like droughts on innocent citizens... These cities produce far more waste than they can store, far more people than they can feed, and far more traffic than they can accommodate... The planet is fine... Big cities are not... |
179. Author: DrafterX | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 4:25PM EST | |
Noted... |
180. Author: deadeyedick | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 6:37PM EST | |
delta1 wrote:can we agree on this? there are too many people on the planet and the numbers are creating conflict... and if the population continues to increase, the problems will be more severe... Eugenics for all or just those other people? |
181. Author: frankj1 | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 6:58PM EST | |
Speyside wrote:You and Frank? it's a big thing, gonna take a big expense account. other than that, we would enjoy to |
182. Author: DrafterX | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 7:38PM EST | |
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183. Author: delta1 | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 7:48PM EST | |
deadeyedick wrote:Eugenics for all or just those other people? define "other people" |
184. Author: frankj1 | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 7:59PM EST | |
delta1 wrote:define "other people" me and you! |
185. Author: delta1 | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 8:04PM EST | |
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186. Author: MACS | Date: Thu, 2/14/2019, 10:40PM EST | |
As posted on AOC's own website... Green New Deal
#1 - would eliminate from the US - cars, trucks, boats (with internal combustion engines), coal, natural gas, and oil... houses and building not constructed to green standards, airplanes in favor of trains (sorry Palama... you're stuck)... it also bans billionaires and cow farts... all in the next 10 years. #2 - AOC claims conservatives doctored her documents, but the FAQ page SHE posted can be found! Even though she took it down and claimed the people reporting it were lying about what it says. #3 - it gives away lots of free stuff (health care, housing, college) and "economic security" for those unable or "unwilling to work". #4 - Zero details on how this pipe dream would save the planet (fails to mention the US is only responsible for about 15% of the carbon emissions) #5 - Estimated to cost about 100 Trillion... just to get it started.
^^Clif Notes^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkNdotusUAM |
187. Author: dstieger | Date: Wed, 6/19/2019, 1:00PM EST | |
Anybody else who visits FoxNews online notice that there seems to be increasing articles that highlight or at lease acknowledge climate change?
I don't think there was a public announcement or anything, but before a few weeks ago, I don't recall ever seeing anything on any FN platform that mentioned global warming unless it was to mock someone about it. Lately, there appears to have been a quiet pivot. The mocking is still quite present, but the stories that attribute stuff to global warming are now out there, too. |
188. Author: DrafterX | Date: Wed, 6/19/2019, 1:09PM EST | |
Fox News is Fair and Balanced... |
189. Author: RMAN4443 | Date: Wed, 6/19/2019, 2:19PM EST | |
They stopped being Fair and Balanced in 2016......now they're the 'America is Watching’ network...the advertisers love it... |
190. Author: Ewok126 | Date: Wed, 6/19/2019, 2:23PM EST | |
Will this affect my tire burning sessions. I hope not cause I am up to 3 times a week.... |
191. Author: DrafterX | Date: Wed, 6/19/2019, 2:30PM EST | |
A good tire fire should last at least a month... |
192. Author: ZRX1200 | Date: Wed, 6/19/2019, 2:39PM EST | |
Al the taxpayer money that Oregon has given to “Green Energy” has netted a grand total of 3 minutes and 30 seconds a day worth of power.
WOOHOO!!!!!
Now the idiot supermajority just passed Crap n Trade. |
193. Author: izonfire | Date: Wed, 6/19/2019, 3:19PM EST | |
Ewok126 wrote:Will this affect my tire burning sessions. I hope not cause I am up to 3 times a week.... I think you're grandfathered in. Burn 'em if ya got 'em! |