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Poll Question : Should Foreign Govts. Influence US Elections?
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yes00 %
no1083 %
only if they help my candidate216 %
Total12100%

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Foreign Govts Influencing Our Elections
1. Author: delta1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 3:57PM EST
Trump said he'd take information from a foreign government that would hurt a political opponent and help his election.
2. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 4:05PM EST
Not what he said... But run with it.. Laugh
3. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 4:14PM EST
Biden slaps woman in Iowa during abortion argument..

Film at 11.. Mellow
4. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 4:22PM EST
I voted for Russia, before I voted against Russia.....

Listening = BAD

Paying for made up info from a foreign agent and using other foreign intelligence agencies while working IN THE GOVERNMENT = OK
5. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 4:32PM EST
Exactly... Mellow
6. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 6:35PM EST
let's get the exact wording...
7. Author: deadeyedickDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 7:04PM EST
I thought foreign influence was the provence of only the USA to do.
8. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 7:07PM EST
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/id-exclusive-interview-trump-listen-foreigners-offered-dirt/story?id=63669304

I blame Norway.
9. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 8:30PM EST
Those Bassards..!! Mad
10. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 8:33PM EST
But it's no worse than a a Biden gaff..

Did you hear about him donkey-punching that lady in Iowa..?? Huh
11. Author: Gene363Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 8:45PM EST
It's OK when we do it to other countries, but not for any other country to do it to us.
12. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 8:57PM EST
so we just lay back and enjoy it...
13. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 8:59PM EST
Some things... Mellow
14. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 8:59PM EST
He talks with a thousand qualifiers on purpose to rile the far left up.

He WANTS the left to obsess with impeachment.

Lay back and enjoy 2020
15. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:08PM EST
ZRX1200 wrote:
He talks with a thousand qualifiers on purpose to rile the far left up.

He WANTS the left to obsess with impeachment.

Lay back and enjoy 2020

doubt it was on purpose. but it is comforting to know he is playing games with America...


“You’re a congressman, someone comes up and says, ‘I have information on your opponent,’ do you call the FBI?” Trump asked.

“If it’s coming from Russia, you do,” Stephanopoulos said, pointing out that Al Gore’s campaign contacted the FBI when it received a stolen briefing book in 2000 and that the FBI director said recently that the agency should have been notified when the Trump campaign received an offer of information on Clinton.

“The FBI director is wrong,” Trump said.



16. Author: delta1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:11PM EST
Wonder if China and Iran would have any interest in helping Dems win in 2020?
17. Author: ZRX1200Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:13PM EST
Frank who’s talking to him....this is a hypothetical circle jerk.

I hope I’m not wearing my MAGA hat when you’re on my jury.
18. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:22PM EST
Stephanopoulos. I know his personal politics, but he's hardly vicious.
Watch it. Didn't seem that Trump felt threatened. Maybe as calm as he's ever been.
and none of the qualifiers you mentioned.

Believe me, I'm not losing my mind over this, but I am shaking my head.
The apology parade is crazier than asking for Presidential comportment.
19. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:30PM EST
if I were to guess at what Trump thinks he is doing cleverly, it would be that he is already worried about charges after he leaves office, which could be 2 or 6 years...both for himself and his stable genius son.
20. Author: delta1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:30PM EST
doubt Trump apologizes for those statements...he seems to truly believe that it is legal to get info from a foreign govt that might affect a US election...he says everybody in Congress does it...
21. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:38PM EST
But it was ok when Obama and Hillary conspired to take him down... It's gonna come out soon... Mellow
22. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:41PM EST
DrafterX wrote:
But it was ok when Obama and Hillary conspired to take him down... It's gonna come out soon... Mellow

wrong conspiracy thread, noob.
23. Author: delta1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:43PM EST
that's not Trump's rationale...he knows he got Russian help to win the 2016 election (Russia, if you're listening)...

to keep his conscience clear, he wants everyone to believe there was nothing wrong with that...
24. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:45PM EST
I did miss one "qualifier" from a different point in the conversation..."oppo info" or something equally baffling if he pulled it out in court.
says that's what it's called when Russia or China (though he deflected it to Norway) calls with dirt during a campaign.
25. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:46PM EST
He doesn’t think there is anything wrong with it. Thus he prolly really believes it’s a witch hunt is legitimately mad.
26. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:46PM EST
Youse guys... Laugh
27. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 9:54PM EST
teedubbya wrote:
He doesn’t think there is anything wrong with it. Thus he prolly really believes it’s a witch hunt is legitimately mad.

nah. everyone who would do it knows it's wrong.
28. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:05PM EST
I really don’t think he knows or thinks it’s wrong. From that filter it explains a his actions.

His real mantra should be collusion isn’t wrong.
29. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:22PM EST
Still with the collusion... Not talking
30. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:22PM EST
It's obstruction now... Mellow
31. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:24PM EST
DrafterX wrote:
It's obstruction now... Mellow

finally!
welcome aboard.
32. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:27PM EST
It’s both. Conspiracy is off the table though.
33. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:31PM EST
I heard there was a conspiracy to collude obstruction.. I think Obama started it.. that's what I heard anyways... Mellow
34. Author: teedubbyaDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:34PM EST
Lock him up. Lock him up.
35. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:35PM EST
DrafterX wrote:
I heard there was a conspiracy to collude obstruction.. I think Obama started it.. that's what I heard anyways... Mellow

yup. followed by a buffet lunch!
I'll save ya a seat...not supposed to eat under the sneeze guard.
36. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:43PM EST
the sneeze guard was a fine invention... Mellow
37. Author: frankj1Date: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:57PM EST
DrafterX wrote:
the sneeze guard was a fine invention... Mellow

agreed, but I get sick when patrons use the tongs and drop the handle end in the food.
38. Author: DrafterXDate: Thu, 6/13/2019, 10:59PM EST
You throw up and stuff..?? Huh
39. Author: frankj1Date: Fri, 6/14/2019, 10:28AM EST
yeah, but I make sure to do it on the sneeze guard...cuz I was raised right
40. Author: RMAN4443Date: Fri, 6/14/2019, 10:43AM EST
as long as you didn't refill the Thousand Island dressing....extra chunky?BARF!
41. Author: tailgaterDate: Fri, 6/14/2019, 3:30PM EST
Trump responds to a hypothetical and the outrage is deafening.

Clinton actually paid for a foreign dosier on her opponent and the silence was deafening.



Does anyone believe that ANY politician wouldn't review and digest any ill-gotten foreign intel prior to handing it over to the FBI?

So now we've stooped so low as to denounce Trump for telling the truth.

This is indeed stranger than fiction.


42. Author: frankj1Date: Fri, 6/14/2019, 6:07PM EST
key word missing..."hostile" as in hostile foreign government.

not Norway. Not just a foreigner.

43. Author: frankj1Date: Fri, 6/14/2019, 6:08PM EST
Gore.
He turned it in.
44. Author: frankj1Date: Fri, 6/14/2019, 6:16PM EST
tailgater wrote:
Trump responds to a hypothetical and the outrage is deafening.

Clinton actually paid for a foreign dosier on her opponent and the silence was deafening.



Does anyone believe that ANY politician wouldn't review and digest any ill-gotten foreign intel prior to handing it over to the FBI?

So now we've stooped so low as to denounce Trump for telling the truth.

This is indeed stranger than fiction.



here's an example of one way you set an inaccurate opposing view to debunk.
he is not being denounced for telling the truth, it's for the meaning of what he says he believes.

more important than reactions to him by others is to focus on your reaction to what he said.

Should we assume you think what he says he would do next time is fine and acceptable?
That's what is being asked here.

There's a lot of bipartisan negative reaction from people who could be put in the same position as the President as they recognize the negative of his truth. You think they are wrong?
45. Author: DrafterXDate: Fri, 6/14/2019, 7:22PM EST
He was just kiddin... Mellow
46. Author: ZRX1200Date: Fri, 6/14/2019, 8:06PM EST
He turned in something that was STOLEN......

Trump was asked a hypothetical question......

Clinton actually PAID FOR IT.
47. Author: tailgaterDate: Fri, 6/14/2019, 8:07PM EST
frankj1 wrote:
Gore.
He turned it in.


You think he didn't have someone peruse it first?

48. Author: ZRX1200Date: Fri, 6/14/2019, 8:12PM EST
Nope. He isn’t Trump.
49. Author: frankj1Date: Fri, 6/14/2019, 8:23PM EST
he didn't say it was about adoption!

do you guys think it is ok?
50. Author: tailgaterDate: Fri, 6/14/2019, 8:27PM EST
frankj1 wrote:
here's an example of one way you set an inaccurate opposing view to debunk.
he is not being denounced for telling the truth, it's for the meaning of what he says he believes.

more important than reactions to him by others is to focus on your reaction to what he said.

Should we assume you think what he says he would do next time is fine and acceptable?
That's what is being asked here.

There's a lot of bipartisan negative reaction from people who could be put in the same position as the President as they recognize the negative of his truth. You think they are wrong?


You're ignoring reality.

He wasn't asked what he SHOULD do. He was asked what he would probably do. And he might be the only sitting POTUS ever to have the balls to say it like it is.

Note: I'm speaking about this subject only. Do not extrapolate further.

This is very black and white. I've created no side narratives, as you suggest. I know the haters aren't mad because he told the truth. They're mad because (pardon the expression) they can't handle the truth.
They would prefer if he lied.
Which shouldn't even be a surprise, considering who we've elected year after year.


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