our ancestors/fore fathers established a noble tradition of political protest and sought to constrain excesses in government...they also purposely avoided promoting any religion as part of the state...they were American patriots...

Fishy is turning into everybody I've ever blocked on facebook.

Poor CROS

So now we know what happened to him. Please tell us where you’ve hidden his body. It’s not right that he doesn’t get a decent Christian’s burial.

😂it’s funny...if anyone else started this thread it would get overrun with posters... but (sigh) not me!

WWVD??

I know where he is. I've always known. All I'm gonna say is ........ask Drafter.

He was but he got kicked out....

I’m more disappointed when the president disrespects the office and common decency than any athlete.

Lol. You know how I feel about bammy.

But our current resident is in a league of his own.

#15... exactly Tail!

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I don't know specifically what or who the subject of this thread is, but that never stopped me from commenting before, so...

I don't think an American citizen gives up his/her rights on this stuff based on who pays the salary.

It makes it even more cool about freedom that we allow/tolerate it.

Personally, I'd never do it in their position...whatever the upsetting "it" is that they are doing. I'm sure I have a feel for it though.
I do stand for the National Anthem at sports events and stuff, I do face the flag and think about the sacrifices made by others for my freedom, but I can also have deep personal feelings of gratitude to those things without worshiping a piece of cloth too. It isn't the flag so much, it's the stuff people have done.

Also, I'd visit the White House if invited even if I hated the current resident President. But it's not up to me to force views and behaviors on others

If we were to kneel for all the injustices in the world, we would never stand up.
A sporting event is a time to put aside our differences and our righteous beliefs and engage in good-natured competition. To politicize a world sporting event is asinine and disrespectful. There is a time and a place.

But these SJW,s put themselves on their righteous platform and become the new figure for social outrage,
Thus securing their future position as a political money maker.

I remember the reports about how Kap “sacrificed everything” for what he believes in.
Except in reality, he has no fucquin clue of what it is to sacrifice everything.

That is what the flag stands for

You're right. That IS why they kneel.

the kneelers are more like the original Americans and the ones who demand that the kneelers stand are like their English rulers...

That's what I heard...

You’re right.

Let’s all kneel before every event and share our individual causes and how we all have been oppressed by this unjust nation like a real pantywaist

By the way I stand and remove my cap if I’m wearing one. Then I put my hand over my heart. It’s who I am. If you want to kneel kneel. Especially if it starts a discussion with me as to why. I may think you are a flake, or disrespectful and choose to not deal with you. Or I may l arm something and you may have a strong principled opinion. Meh.

Black lives matter made a mistake. I think they should have called it black lives matter too. I get what they are really trying to say though. You don’t have to agree with someone to understand them.

I arm learn too

so think about that.
If I didn't know better, I'd infer the idea then would be to take the flag and anthem out of sporting events.
And that's not what you mean, I do know better.

But once we run the symbol of our way of life up the flagpole, it's fair game for free people to state their feelings. To expect a unanimous identical response is naive.

Removing the pomp from sports may be a better idea after all.

I disagree. Think of the Olympics. It is a unification of all nations for the purpose of sport. Political and personal ideologies and disputes are set aside for the purpose of good-natured competition. The athletes represent their countries in a show of pride. And in it’s totality, it is a moment of world unification. Where people the world over can celebrate our common humanity. It is not a time to showcase your personal agenda

I don’t disagree. However, the decision to ignore, sanction or discipline her based on her behavior while at work should be the discretion of her private employer, and not decided upon by spectators. Or nationalize Olympic sports, fully fund them and provide a military-like code of conduct.

When representing the nation, I believe it goes beyond the discretion of the employer.
And behavior at work should remain work related.

Stage a protest at your next boardroom meeting and see where that gets ya.

Why would it go beyond the discretion of the employer? If I stage a protest at our next board meeting, the decision on action, if any, is entirely at their discretion. Again, they are representing that nation in that they are from, or hold passports given by this nation, but have as much connection to the government of this country as I do.

Homework time IZON, in 1972 the Russians boycotted the Olympics in LA as a political protest, in 1976 we boycotted the Olympics in Russia as a political protest. South Africa was banned from the Olimpics during apartheid. Zola Budd had to become an American to run in the Olympics. So governments have boycotted the Olympics for a long time. Sports is political. It just depends on which side you fall. Colin Kapernic's career is over because he wasn't that good. Meagan Rappino can go FU, she is one of the best athletes in the world at what she does. I don't like using sport as a political vehicle, but I won't fault athletes for doing far less than governments do.