https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez90rXhMWjE

CNBC - not exactly right wing media...

OTOH, people have always underestimated California, unfortunately, lately they appear to have gone insane with regulation and control.

Always choose dangerous freedom.

Does this mean the great socialist experiment is failing? Who woulda thunk that could happen?

If you have spent more than 50% of your life in Cali and continue to do so you are a Californian admit it or not. It's like pregnancy you either are or you are not.

I got no idea what's going on, man...

STFU. No one needs to know that.

Delta and MACS are dreamy though

I got the Southern California of the late 60's, 70's n 80's in me...great place then...beach scene, night clubs and parties...getaway to the mountains was a short drive away... and less crowded than it is now...lived in five different homes and neighborhoods...only one sucked, and that was in the L.A. downtown area in the early 80's, when Mexican gangs were on the rise...

quality of life has definitely diminished due to traffic and crowds, but it still has its moments, charms, and places....fortunately my wife and I are comfortably retired and we can afford our standard of living here...good neighbors

after travels afar on vacation, always look forward to coming home.......family here.......no plans to leave...


home is where your heart is...if your heart isn't in it, it aint home...

You got great neighbors too Al!

That was a really interesting video. The exodus out of California has been going on for a long time. What’s different right now is that immigration out of Cali to other states has always been overshadowed by immigration into Cali from abroad. For the last couple of years that has not happened and Cali actually shrank in population.

I love being in California. I’ve spent about 25% of my life here spread across two time periods. I have already left once and came back 17 years later when a Silicon Valley tech firm paid me a bunch of money to come back and moved me across the country. I’ll leave again at some point and I’m already planning it. The tech exodus from the Bay Area is real but Silicon Valley will be fine. When ‘Rona is over and life comes back there will be another influx. Increased green energy money may be the next big driver.

There is a bill right now under consideration to extend the California state income tax to those over a certain income who leave the state and to tax them for ten years after they left.

Same thing's happening in Illinois, or at least in Chicagoland. Cost of living and doing business in Cook County is insanely high. The shop I used to work at now has nearly $100k/yr bill just for property tax. Small shop, about 15 employees. My house in Cook Co, in a not so great neighborhood, now has a $10k annual property tax bill. I now have 10x the land, slightly less square footage, safe area, and $1500/yr in taxes just 20 minutes away.

I'd rather not deal with the hurricanes n stuff tho.

Plus there are alligators in all the swimming pools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGquBxqjPYM

Hey Robert, I have begun building my house in Manatee County. We will have to get together when I am finished. I won't have winter for long.

jealous

Touche

I did just fly down there to escape the weather for a minute.

I have a salt pool ... so I need the oceanic equivalent- damsel fish.

Excellent! A pool fish reference.

http://www.cigarbid.com/...c/posts/63405/pool-fish

Tirty NINE!

Hate the humidity and storms of Florida. Hate winters anywhere north of Texas. It's a dry heat.

I have waffle house less than a mile from me. I'd move away from it not towards it LOL

Yeah, nah... I ain't clicking on that link.

In Florida when you see a body of water...doesn't matter what...there are 3 stages of gator attached to it.

1 - There's an alligator in it

2 - There's going to be an alligator in it

3 - There was an alligator in it

This is the reason why if you have a small dog and you live on a body of water you don't leave it unattended. It's also a major reason why you should fence your yard and have a screened in enclosure. It's enough of a deterrent to stop them from getting in your pool...but if they want it bad enough...they will.