| 1. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Mon, 6/5/2023, 1:41PM EST | |
  Used to buy "Smart & Simple" bath tissue toilet paper...going on 15? Yrs or so... Always 6 rolls per pack... For $1.00 Now ??? Only 4 rolls per pack for $1.00... In all fairness ...the rolls changed sizes and # of sheets per roll... Old 2 ply 176 squares per roll New 2 ply 240 squares per roll Sooooo.... APPLES TO APPLES... OLD 117.4 SQ. FT NEW 101.3 SQ. FT BOTTOM LINE: GETTING LESS PRODUCT FOR SAME PRICE THE MAN'S MOTTO: "ALWAYS F##K THE LITTLE GUY AND KEEP THEM POOR & SUBSERVIENT" |
| 2. Author: JGKAMIN | Date: Mon, 6/5/2023, 2:36PM EST | |
Damn, next we’re going to find out things aren’t just $1 at the Dollar Tree… |
| 3. Author: Ram27 | Date: Mon, 6/5/2023, 3:11PM EST | |
Damn Jonesy you are lucky 🍀 our Dollar Stores are charging $1.25 for products.  |
| 4. Author: RayR | Date: Mon, 6/5/2023, 4:31PM EST | |
It's called SHINKFLATION Jonesy, it's one inevitable method that many makers and sellers will use to counteract the evils that inflation causes to their price sensitive business models.
You see it at the Dollar Tree Stores to, except that you pay $1.25 and still get less than what you used to get for $1.00 on many items.
In the end, it's always the THE LITTLE GUY that gets F##KED by Inflation. |
| 5. Author: KingoftheCove | Date: Mon, 6/5/2023, 8:23PM EST | |
What about “Motel 6”?
And then the “Super 8” motel….
Guess it’s “Motel 89.99” now………..and what a DUMP it is…. |
| 6. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Mon, 6/5/2023, 9:14PM EST | |
Thanks guys....
KOC...those Motel 6's and Super 8 motels look like death traps all over the U.S....filled with DRIED SPERM LOADS ON THE BED COVERS ( GLOW UNDER BLACK LIGHTS) , bed bugs, trucker whores get special 2-4 hrs room rates ,half the outside lights are burned out or broken, the clerks are behind bulliet proof glass... |
| 7. Author: frankj1 | Date: Mon, 6/5/2023, 10:01PM EST | |
RayR wrote:It's called SHINKFLATION Jonesy, it's one inevitable method that many makers and sellers will use to counteract the evils that inflation causes to their price sensitive business models.
You see it at the Dollar Tree Stores to, except that you pay $1.25 and still get less than what you used to get for $1.00 on many items.
In the end, it's always the THE LITTLE GUY that gets F##KED by Inflation. first, it's "shRinkflation". and the little guy does always get f**ked for the reasons you say...OK. But in the real world when factors such as supply chain et al normalize, smart money says unfettered capitalists ain't reversing course once "the evils that inflation causes to their price sensitive business models" are relaxed. Huh? And then that same little guy you care for gets f**ked, this time by the makers and sellers, for no reason other than a new price floor has been established...nothing to do with honest supply and demand Capitalism...which is truly the greatest system of all to all parties. If you're a little guy, as I suspect you are, you know this. |
| 8. Author: RayR | Date: Tue, 6/6/2023, 8:57AM EST | |
frankj1 wrote:first, it's "shRinkflation".
and the little guy does always get f**ked for the reasons you say...OK.
But in the real world when factors such as supply chain et al normalize, smart money says unfettered capitalists ain't reversing course once "the evils that inflation causes to their price sensitive business models" are relaxed.
Huh?
And then that same little guy you care for gets f**ked, this time by the makers and sellers, for no reason other than a new price floor has been established...nothing to do with honest supply and demand Capitalism...which is truly the greatest system of all to all parties.
If you're a little guy, as I suspect you are, you know this. I don't about you Frank, first, you talk like a COMMIE PROGRESSIVE with that "unfettered capitalists" lingo, as if free market capitalism is bad. Then you end with "honest supply and demand Capitalism...which is truly the greatest system of all to all parties." Which is it? Under "honest supply and demand" free market capitalism makers and sellers are under competitive pressure. A local example: There are four corners of a major street not far from me with a Walmart, an ALDI, a Target, and a Wegmans. You can see price competition all the time between them He who serves the customer with the product they want, at the level of quality and service they desire, and at the best price wins the vote of the consumer dollar. The free market is the only true democracy for those reasons. Totally different from that dishonest duhmacracy stuff that you believe in. But you skirt around the whole issue of INFLATION. Inflation is not just about physical factors like temporary supply chain issues and stupid government interventions in the economy that are the greater cause of them, INFLATION is a monetary phenomenon caused by governments spending money they don't have and Central Bank policies that monetize that debt and artificially manipulate interest rates. It's a game of picking winners and losers and by design. the little guy will be the sucker at the end of the line, as the biggest loser who will be stuck with the debased paper notes that have lost the most buying power as they shop for goods and services. May we should call it STINKFLATION because a dishonest monetary system is not a foundation of free market capitalism and the whole thing just stinks. "Inflation and credit expansion, the preferred methods of present day government openhandedness, do not add anything
to the amount of resources available. They make some people more prosperous, but only to the extent that they make others poorer." - Ludwig Von Mises |
| 9. Author: frankj1 | Date: Tue, 6/6/2023, 12:25PM EST | |
RayR wrote:I don't about you Frank, first, you talk like a COMMIE PROGRESSIVE with that "unfettered capitalists" lingo, as if free market capitalism is bad. Then you end with "honest supply and demand Capitalism...which is truly the greatest system of all to all parties." Which is it?
Under "honest supply and demand" free market capitalism makers and sellers are under competitive pressure.
A local example: There are four corners of a major street not far from me with a Walmart, an ALDI, a Target, and a Wegmans. You can see price competition all the time between them He who serves the customer with the product they want, at the level of quality and service they desire, and at the best price wins the vote of the consumer dollar. The free market is the only true democracy for those reasons. Totally different from that dishonest duhmacracy stuff that you believe in.
But you skirt around the whole issue of INFLATION. Inflation is not just about physical factors like temporary supply chain issues and stupid government interventions in the economy that are the greater cause of them, INFLATION is a monetary phenomenon caused by governments spending money they don't have and Central Bank policies that monetize that debt and artificially manipulate interest rates. It's a game of picking winners and losers and by design. the little guy will be the sucker at the end of the line, as the biggest loser who will be stuck with the debased paper notes that have lost the most buying power as they shop for goods and services.
May we should call it STINKFLATION because a dishonest monetary system is not a foundation of free market capitalism and the whole thing just stinks.
"Inflation and credit expansion, the preferred methods of present day government openhandedness, do not add anything
to the amount of resources available. They make some people more prosperous, but only to the extent that they make others poorer." - Ludwig Von Mises Shrinkflation is ugly Capitalism taking devious advantage of financial circumstances as opposed to that noble vision we'd both support. Consider that raising the price AND shrinking the volume of product in a package that appears the same size as before adds to inflation and only happens so as to increase profit artificially, not due to honest responses to market pressures/ increased demand. Your 12 oz box of Luck Charms that used to cost $5 is now $6 and only has 10.5 oz in it, AND represents an increase in profit margin. Smells like cheating from every angle. Sneaky tactics increasing profits is not earning profits by filling the needs of consumers by reacting to market pressures, it's trickery. Dare I say shenanigans? the idea that competitive pressures are THE factor that keeps Capitalism honest is a theory, certainly a model of perfection. It is the best theory on Earth and the one worthy of our efforts. But reality plays out differently. Capitalists are drawn from the same gene pool that supplies Politicians, teachers, Police/Military, and crooks, con men, and other scoundrels, making the Perfect Theory impossible to exist due to the imperfections of human beings. But I don't expect it to be perfect, I only hope to be able to curb and minimize the damages that imperfections inflict on consumers and harm the model as it should be working. So aside from market pressures, sometimes a touch of consumer protection is required...how much protection is clearly debatable but not necessary for this thread. |
| 10. Author: DrafterX | Date: Tue, 6/6/2023, 1:05PM EST | |
frankj1 wrote:
Your 12 oz box of Luck Charms that used to cost $5 is now $6 and only has 10.5 oz in it, AND represents an increase in profit margin.
And I heard they drained all the luck out too...  |
| 11. Author: RayR | Date: Tue, 6/6/2023, 1:32PM EST | |
Franky, again you ignore the real culprits of INFLATION and call on those same scoundrels to offer "consumer protection"?
That's like calling on the thief that just robbed your HUT to strengthen your security system.
You blame it on GREEDY capitalists who are plotting in smoke-filled rooms to increase their profit margin through SHRINKFLATION? You totally ignore that because of the shrinking buying power of the dollar the costs of raw materials and therefore manufacturers' and supplier's costs have also gone up because of BAD gubment policies.
Get real Frankie, Compounding on MONETARY INFLATION, BAD anticapitalist policies cause the cost of oil to go up, so the cost of plastics and anything that requires fossil fuels in the factory or in transporting goods goes up, additionally, the cost of raw materials like grains and sugar may also go up so your gross UNLUCKY CHARMS goes up in price...so on and so on. |
| 12. Author: HockeyDad | Date: Tue, 6/6/2023, 1:53PM EST | |
frankj1 wrote:Shrinkflation is ugly Capitalism taking devious advantage of financial circumstances as opposed to that noble vision we'd both support.
Consider that raising the price AND shrinking the volume of product in a package that appears the same size as before adds to inflation and only happens so as to increase profit artificially, not due to honest responses to market pressures/ increased demand.
Your 12 oz box of Luck Charms that used to cost $5 is now $6 and only has 10.5 oz in it, AND represents an increase in profit margin. Smells like cheating from every angle. Sneaky tactics increasing profits is not earning profits by filling the needs of consumers by reacting to market pressures, it's trickery. Dare I say shenanigans?
the idea that competitive pressures are THE factor that keeps Capitalism honest is a theory, certainly a model of perfection. It is the best theory on Earth and the one worthy of our efforts.
But reality plays out differently. Capitalists are drawn from the same gene pool that supplies Politicians, teachers, Police/Military, and crooks, con men, and other scoundrels, making the Perfect Theory impossible to exist due to the imperfections of human beings.
But I don't expect it to be perfect, I only hope to be able to curb and minimize the damages that imperfections inflict on consumers and harm the model as it should be working.
So aside from market pressures, sometimes a touch of consumer protection is required...how much protection is clearly debatable but not necessary for this thread. If there are shenanigans, consumers are too stupid to walk away and not buy the product so we need the government to protect them. |
| 13. Author: frankj1 | Date: Tue, 6/6/2023, 5:55PM EST | |
yet with all the crying and woes, profit margins sky rocketed....look closer at who benefitted.
In the model of properly functioning Capitalism, it would not be so heavily weighted in one direction. Everyone would win...in theory. |
| 14. Author: HockeyDad | Date: Tue, 6/6/2023, 8:05PM EST | |
frankj1 wrote:yet with all the crying and woes, profit margins sky rocketed....look closer at who benefitted. Profit margins skyrocketed! So who benefited? Is this a fact or a feeling? |
| 15. Author: Speyside2 | Date: Tue, 6/6/2023, 8:21PM EST | |
Let's ban To Kill A Mockingbird, that will fix everything. Make America Florida. |
| 16. Author: Mr. Jones | Date: Tue, 6/6/2023, 8:25PM EST | |
Bubble gum music...
Hooked on a feeling...whoa ho ho ho..
Ogaa chaka ogaa ogaa
BLUE SWEDE |
