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Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#1 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 8:39 AM EST
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Now that I have your attention

I have been doing a some research and was wondering if any of you have had any success, or have tried growing their own tobacco.

Because it sounds to me that you can generate your own quality soil as long as it is high in iron and sand.
if you were to set up an indoor hydroponic station you could grow it longer possibly even stronger correct?
DD1700 Offline
#2 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 8:43 AM EST
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Slow down hillbilly. You must have taken extra meds!!! LOL!!!
dharbolt Offline
#3 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 8:44 AM EST
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Sure you could grow it no problem. Curing/fermentation would be your biggest challenge
marc palanzo Offline
#4 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 8:47 AM EST
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Probably not very cost effective to grow your own.
deadeyedick Offline
#5 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 8:56 AM EST
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marc palanzo wrote:
Probably not very cost effective to grow your own.


Thats what I was thinking the other night while eating a home grown tomato that I estimate cost about $14/lb.

DED
TMCTLT Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 9:11 AM EST
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deadeyedick wrote:
Thats what I was thinking the other night while eating a home grown tomato that I estimate cost about $14/lb.

DED



Why so much Rick? We grow our own and I don't believe they cost near that....AND they're actually red and juicy, unlike the greenhouse/ hothouse varieties....And ours are free of pesticides etc. thanks but I'll keep growing my own....nuttin like them. Tobacco.."that's another completely different animal IMHO....and yes Numi has grown his own Baccy fog
Philly Jack Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 9:19 AM EST
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Search the site it's been done before but outside not hydro
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 9:29 AM EST
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I'm thinking hydro, high strength, quality, cost.
Market the chit out of them.
Strongest cigar on the market. guaranteed to be in every cigar snobs humidor across the planet.
ZRX1200 Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 9:54 AM EST
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Drafter and Numi both have grown their own. Another BOTL here grew AND rolled his own (don't remember his handle ) ge did a review and said it was terrible.
Abrignac Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 10:08 AM EST
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Hillbillyjosh770 wrote:
I'm thinking hydro, high strength, quality, cost.
Market the chit out of them.
Strongest cigar on the market. guaranteed to be in every cigar snobs humidor across the planet.



http://forum.growkind.com/showthread.php?t=30771#.Uzbh3IXDXWU

As good a place as any to get started.
KingoftheCove Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 10:47 AM EST
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dharbolt wrote:
Sure you could grow it no problem. Curing/fermentation would be your biggest challenge

^^this

growing tomatos is one thing....easy
growing weed is another....pretty easy
growing tobacco that can be rolled into good cigars?.......not so easy
Numismaniac Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 11:57 AM EST
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dharbolt wrote:
Sure you could grow it no problem. Curing/fermentation would be your biggest challenge




Just one of 'em. You will have to grow enough to make a decent sized "pilone" just to get the fermentation right. AND then re-stack it every time the temp hits a certain degree.

It can/is/has been grown hydroponically for years, there are even special preferred nutrients, but that is amost entirely for air/flue cure to either use for cigarette rolling or sacred use, and tends to be the Burley or older types, not Connecticut.


I've grown both types, there are old pics on here, I will hunt and top a few.


It can be a fun project, but don't expect to get any quality for cigars from the soil in our area. Stick to cotton, hehe.

The only commercially grown baccy in TN is dark fired, Burley typically for chewing, pipe, and snuff, but it's also part of the KFC's that are out now, although it was grown just across the TN line in West KY. There are MANY fields just SE of Ft. Campbell, we should send Gae9 over late this fall to try and talk them out of some, hehe.

I think there is still a stalk or two in my shed.
erjaq Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 12:15 PM EST
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Nobody else is thinking about The Simpsons' tomacco episode?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4l39b1ESVs
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 1:12 PM EST
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Numismaniac wrote:
Just one of 'em. You will have to grow enough to make a decent sized "pilone" just to get the fermentation right. AND then re-stack it every time the temp hits a certain degree.

It can/is/has been grown hydroponically for years, there are even special preferred nutrients, but that is amost entirely for air/flue cure to either use for cigarette rolling or sacred use, and tends to be the Burley or older types, not Connecticut.


I've grown both types, there are old pics on here, I will hunt and top a few.


It can be a fun project, but don't expect to get any quality for cigars from the soil in our area. Stick to cotton, hehe.

The only commercially grown baccy in TN is dark fired, Burley typically for chewing, pipe, and snuff, but it's also part of the KFC's that are out now, although it was grown just across the TN line in West KY. There are MANY fields just SE of Ft. Campbell, we should send Gae9 over late this fall to try and talk them out of some, hehe.

I think there is still a stalk or two in my shed.


That's freakin awesome.
Thanks for all the info brothers.
tonygraz Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 1:43 PM EST
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They grow tobacco about 40 miles from me. I made an attempt to grow it and got nothing. There are diseases, Tobacco hornworms and all kinds of problem possible. Then you have to age and ferment it and after that roll your own. A lot of work for something you can buy fairly inexpensively from professionals.
robertsccr5 Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 2:02 PM EST
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Let's say you grow your tobacco and prepare it properly and its ready to be rolled...what then?

Roll a puro? same filler, binder, wrapper?
BlueDude Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 2:55 PM EST
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Go for it HillyBill ! ! !

Don't let anyone talk you out of it.
You won't know for sure unless you try.

Keep us posted, it sounds like an interesting summer project.
spectresquad Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 3:59 PM EST
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There is a reason what you are smoking comes from the Caribbean or Nicaragua. The Soil. Soil is like spices, wrong spice and food taste like crap, wrong soil, cigars taste lie you went to a place with auctions...HAHAHAHA! Laugh

if I were going to try and grow cigars in America, I would find a friend in those Caribbean countries and have them send me a few pounds of their soil to put in a pot and grow the tobacco in. You would have a better chance of getting a decent flavor. Then you would need seeds from the right kind of Tobacco. i use to have a plantation in Costa Rica. Genetics of tobacco is as important as breeding dogs. You can get the seeds some times from sources on the net, or from underground sources Shhh Hmm where did i leave that dealer at...

Climate come in a distant third because you can control that in a greenhouse.
illinichaser Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 4:39 PM EST
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If you are wanting to grow your own to make a better/stronger cigar, you are probably on the wrong path. . .

However with that said, there is something to be said about developing a new hobby, learning about a craft, and taking the time and care to cultivate. From that stand point, growing your own, and trying to roll your own cigars would help develop a new appreciation.


I say go for it.
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 5:16 PM EST
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I'm more interested in marketing

INDO PAIN

The Strongest Cigar In The World


Sounds like something Snoop Diddy, or Kanye East would smoke
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 5:37 PM EST
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Hillbillyjosh770 wrote:
I'm more interested in marketing

INDO PAIN

The Strongest Cigar In The World


Sounds like something Snoop Diddy, or Kanye East would smoke


I can see the cigar band now.
Kinda like the Gurkha design but instead of the Gurkha dude I'm thinking Ray Charles screaming!!
dharbolt Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 5:47 PM EST
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Is been done. It's called the t110
dharbolt Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 5:48 PM EST
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BlueDude wrote:
Go for it HillyBill ! ! !

Don't let anyone talk you out of it.
You won't know for sure unless you try.

Keep us posted, it sounds like an interesting summer project.



This too
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 6:54 PM EST
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I'm talking worldwide

The Tatuaje T110 is a rare cigar with only 200 boxes being made for 1 store in Hawaii. The Tatuaje T110 is a pure ligero smoke that is made in Nicaragua. Despite the fact that the majority of the readers will never smoke one I decided review it anyway and I hope no one minds my self indulgence in doing so.

I wonder if Conan has had one
tonygraz Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 7:19 PM EST
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The tobacco near here is the real CT and much of it is shade grown. The old so called Ct smokes all used imported filler and the Ct wrapper. There is a puro and it is made by Tatuaje called La Casita. Got some resting
dharbolt Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 7:27 PM EST
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Hillbillyjosh770 wrote:
I'm talking worldwide

The Tatuaje T110 is a rare cigar with only 200 boxes being made for 1 store in Hawaii. The Tatuaje T110 is a pure ligero smoke that is made in Nicaragua. Despite the fact that the majority of the readers will never smoke one I decided review it anyway and I hope no one minds my self indulgence in doing so.

I wonder if Conan has had one




Josh many have had them. Many love them. The blend is now known as f****o
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 8:06 PM EST
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dharbolt wrote:
Josh many have had them. Many love them. The blend is now known as f****o


?
Plowboy221 Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 8:09 PM EST
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aust
Hillbillyjosh770 Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Mar 29 2014, 9:36 PM EST
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I gotcha. Sounds interesting.
BlueDude Offline
#30 Posted: Tue, Apr 1 2014, 9:53 AM EST
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Hillbillyjosh770 wrote:
I'm more interested in marketing

Sounds like something Snoop Diddy, or Kanye East would smoke


Or THIS guy:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...ow-NOT-to-smoke-a-Fuente
DrafterX Offline
#31 Posted: Tue, Apr 1 2014, 10:05 AM EST
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These grew in SE OK very well.... I never smoked them tho.... Think

http://www.cigarbid.com/.../posts/598648/The-kids-


will put some more in the ground in a month or so.... Mellow
05busa Offline
#32 Posted: Wed, Apr 2 2014, 5:11 PM EST
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Puff puff give
Numismaniac Offline
#33 Posted: Wed, Apr 2 2014, 8:28 PM EST
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is that you SMokey?
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