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US LAUNCHES STRIKES IN SYRIA
Burner02 Online
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Guess the "Red Line" has been dusted off.
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Yeah, I see that they keep sensing tanks down the line over here. Gas already shot up 30 cents too. Govt must be getting those fuel contracts in order.
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next few days should be interesting... I guess we gave Russia a half hour to move their sh^t before the strike... we forgot to get Pelosi's approval tho... Mellow
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Beginning the clean-up of Obama's mess.

Could take a while.
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I guess they shoulda gave Trump the Peace prize right out of the gate too... Mellow
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i stayed up to watch it all unfold and the commentary
i think the key word was "proportional"
should be an interesting next couple days
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may as well take out North Korea's launch pads... what's Fatty Fat Fat gonna do..?? Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
may as well take out North Korea's launch pads... what's Fatty Fat Fat gonna do..?? Mellow



I imagine that has been a topic of discussion down in Florida for the past 12 hours or so. Hopefully, Rodman will head over for a visit a few hours before. Two birds with one stone so to speak.
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I knew a lady that took down two squirrels with one pellet once... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
I knew a lady that took down two squirrels with one pellet once... Mellow


I've heard of shooting two loads into one beaver.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts

Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
I knew a lady that took down two squirrels with one pellet once... Mellow


You, and who was the other ?
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Emmantaller-boi, FattyKimdaTurd is next
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During an interview this past January with National Public Radio, former National Security Adviser Rice touted the “success” in Syria, in striking a deal with Russia's help that resulted in the prior administration dropping the threat of military action.

“We were able to find a solution that didn’t necessitate the use of force that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known from Syria, in a way that the use of force would never have accomplished,” she boasted. “We were able to get the Syrian government to voluntarily and verifiably give up its chemical weapons stockpile.”

Rice has come under fire for making misleading comments in the past. Most recently, she grabbed headlines for allegedly being tied to allegations of improper surveillance of the Trump team prior to his inauguration.

Rice isn’t the only Obama-era official who made self-congratulatory statements about removing chemical weapons from Syria.

In July 2014, then-Secretary of State John Kerry went on NBC’s “Meet the Press” to discuss the September 2013 deal that resulted in Russia agreeing to help confiscate and then destroy Syria’s stockpile.

“We struck a deal where we got 100 percent of the chemical weapons out,” Kerry claimed.



Think Think
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tailgater wrote:
I've heard of shooting two loads into one beaver.


Insert rim-shot smiley here ...


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tailgater wrote:
I've heard of shooting two loads into one beaver.


After exercising better judgement....

RTFWP
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RIP Wheelrite. This thread is tailor made for you.
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Hans plays with Lotte, Lotte plays with Jane..
Jane plays with Willi, Willi is happy again..
Suki plays with Leo, Sacha plays with Britt..
Adolf builts a bonfire, Enrico plays with it... Whistle
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All joking assad, things are getting syrias.
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d'oh!
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I can't really take credit (read blame). I stole it from a guy who stole it from the facebooks.
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OhMyGod
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I know, I know. Plagiarism is bad and stuff.
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DrafterX wrote:
may as well take out North Korea's launch pads... what's Fatty Fat Fat gonna do..?? Mellow



Sorry, but his correct name is pronounced: Fatty McFatface


Beer
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SmokeMonkey wrote:
I know, I know. Plagiarism is bad and stuff.


THe penalty could be to make you first lady or a supreme court justice.
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First reaction - Wag the dog.
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The craziest thing that I saw happen . . .

I heard a couple of people on CNN say... "The President...."


Beer
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I'd call that progress. .. Mellow
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So I guess we can now say that he went and grabbed Syria by the pussy?
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WHAT A **** JOKE THAT RESPONSE WAS!!!

TRUMP is a RICH IDIOT...

"27"??? Tomahawk cruise middles with conventional warheads....???

CAN YOU SAY "EXPENSIVE AS HELL andWORTHLESS?"

Millions upon millions $$$$ of dollars of cruise missles?
To make holes in a runway...that will take 2 weeks
And maybe $250,000 to fix with GULAG BUILT
BULLDOZERS...

Shoulda just CARPET BOMBED ASSAD's compound with one fully loaded along with one bunker buster...ARC LIGHT B-52 outta
"Carmen SanDiego" ISLAND...

Much much cheaper, cost effective , and solves the real problem....

TRUMP loves to spend out taxpayer dollars...
I hope those TOMAHAWKS WERE "OLD INVENTORY"
READY TO DECOMMISSION...use those first...
Who cares if a few miss and vaporize some ruskies.
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But what about the childrens..?? Nobody ever thinks about the childrens..... Sad
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Without congress...here we go again. Kick O'Bannon out and bring the Bushie acolytes in and voila here ya go. One of his major campaign themes was non-interventionism and less than a hundred days wham.

The UN said they had zero Chem weapons, and the last Chem weapon claim was false. This is all BS. Assad is winning the war and stood to gain nothing, this sounds like an excuse to blow up jets to help the "rebels" we've armed and funded.
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But there pictures of children's faces burnt off and stuff. ... Mellow
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Mr. Jones wrote:
WHAT A **** JOKE THAT RESPONSE WAS!!!

TRUMP is a RICH IDIOT...

"27"??? Tomahawk cruise middles with conventional warheads....???

CAN YOU SAY "EXPENSIVE AS HELL andWORTHLESS?"

Millions upon millions $$$$ of dollars of cruise missles?
To make holes in a runway...that will take 2 weeks
And maybe $250,000 to fix with GULAG BUILT
BULLDOZERS...


Shoulda just CARPET BOMBED ASSAD's compound with one fully loaded along with one bunker buster...ARC LIGHT B-52 outta
"Carmen SanDiego" ISLAND...

Much much cheaper, cost effective , and solves the real problem....

TRUMP loves to spend out taxpayer dollars...
I hope those TOMAHAWKS WERE "OLD INVENTORY"
READY TO DECOMMISSION...use those first...
Who cares if a few miss and vaporize some ruskies.

actually, took a few hours...
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Air Base was back up and launching attacks in hours.
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It was a symbolic bombing. Dog and pony show.
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I do not like that this was done without congress. Also there was no strategic value gained.
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... well... I mean....we have to use the middles by their "use by" date... and now we have space in the shelves to buy 59 more!
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Dammit. . Middles = missiles. This phone will never get me.
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The pics I saw didn't show much damage... Mellow
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I posted the stuff below earlier today in the bromance thread, probably belongs here too...yes, strictly anecdotal, and I don't necessarily consider it a reflection of Syrians' or Syrian Americans' feelings in general on the matter, just one man's thoughts that cover the bromance and the air strikes:


I have a relationship of many years in town with Syrian born brothers who own a gas station/auto mechanic shop. They fly the American flag at their business.

I asked Brother Sammi this morning what his take is on what just happened. His opinion is that he is glad Trump ordered the action, wished Obama had not gone to Congress and done the same as Trump, believes Hillary was calling for the same action a few years ago when chemicals first were used and thinks a big opportunity was wasted by not moving ahead without Congress back then knowing he would never get backing for anything.

But he went on to say that very little was accomplished, glad it was limited to airport areas rather than harming the people, but seemed calculated to be very limited in actual effectiveness. I asked to explain and he said that the airport resumed activities within hours, and he felt Trump and Putin had a wink wink deal to make Trump look Reagan-strong to Americans as they exchanged strong words that sound like their relationship has been damaged.

He added that anything that helps remove the dictator would have to be considered positive...despite the unknown future. He is not optimistic about the future of his birth nation.

Overall, he supports Trumps particular actions, but thinks he and Putin are complicit narcissists and does not think much will change.
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Without congress...here we go again. Kick O'Bannon out and bring the Bushie acolytes in and voila here ya go. One of his major campaign themes was non-interventionism and less than a hundred days wham.

The UN said they had zero Chem weapons, and the last Chem weapon claim was false. This is all BS. Assad is winning the war and stood to gain nothing, this sounds like an excuse to blow up jets to help the "rebels" we've armed and funded.


^What he said. For those who don't remember, I'm a right leaning Libertarian, and this attack troubles me. I thought Trump was suppose to be all "America First". I don't see how this attack benefits the American Citizen. Too many unanswered questions to be pro or con at this point in time.
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whether Trump lists right or left, he will always lean toward "me first". He will never miss an opportunity to promote himself.
I can't imagine an American over the age of 15 finding this to be a surprise.

That said, I am hoping for many things to work toward a better world...whether popular or not today.

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I've got a good Iranian friend. .. he's got family there and stuff. .. we don't talk much about it tho... Mellow
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I served 4 years active and 3 years reserves. That being said I'm no fan of armed combat. That being said I also served 12 years in law enforcement before taking an early retirement. My experience has taught me that without wolves there is no peace. Absent someone standing up to the bullies, the weak will perish. This action should have been taken when the line in the sand was crossed. Trump simply sent a very serious shot across the bow. If ignored then the gates of hell should be opened.
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This was an act of war, for which the President is obligated by the Constitution to seek authority from Congress.

Seemed a little "wag the doggish" to distract attention from Russiagate, which was pretty intense until then, like when Clinton was President. The difference is that there is hardly any criticism of Trump, whereas the right jumped all over Clinton for his missile strike. Clinton was accused of a distracting, calculated political ploy when he launched some missiles at Libya in the middle of the blue dress scandal. I guess it's OK when a President you like kills people on our behalf...
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There is no THERE there with Russia.

Wag the dog indeed.
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Hope you're right, and that his move to dump Bannon from the NSC (and intel data access) was a positive sign that he is willing to curtail any and all obstruction of the Russian investigation by members of his staff.
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delta1 wrote:
This was an act of war, for which the President is obligated by the Constitution to seek authority from Congress.

Seemed a little "wag the doggish" to distract attention from Russiagate, which was pretty intense until then, like when Clinton was President. The difference is that there is hardly any criticism of Trump, whereas the right jumped all over Clinton for his missile strike. Clinton was accused of a distracting, calculated political ploy when he launched some missiles at Libya in the middle of the blue dress scandal. I guess it's OK when a President you like kills people on our behalf...



Abrignac wrote:
I'm not convinced there ever was a bromance. Trump made an ill advised comment regarding the Russians hacking Hillary's private email server. He also showed an affinity for Putin which isn't surprising since like like Putin Trump has a very strong and relentless personality Not unexpected for a political neophyte. But in true Carvillian style, the Dems used that to triangulate Trump to the Russians.

Regarding the Russian involvement narrative, it's nonsense. Having spent 10+ years in IT security I can say without a doubt that if someone has the ability to identify the origin of something they have an equal ability to imitate it. In essence all one needs to do is used the same code then use anonymous proxies to hide the true origin of the source. It much simpler to do than the pundits would have one believe. That being said it is IMPOSSIBLE to prove whether the Russians did it or our some other entity did it and left a Russian fingerprint.
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All this Trump hate doesn't help... Mellow
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