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gorob23 Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 3:40 PM EST
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Ok Second time in a row I have sent Clud Bombs and the Lady at the Post Office said I wasn't supposed to send cigars by mail! But then she did it? What gives anyone have any thoughts yes I'm still a rookie and I hope this is posted ok here ??? Rob
Robby Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 3:47 PM EST
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Ask her if she'd rather have you patronize fedex?
0patience Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 4:04 PM EST
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Why tell them what they are?
They should only ask if you have fragile, perishables or hazardous material.
Oh, you insured them. That would make a difference.

Funny though, if you are not supposed to send them in the mail, then I am curious as to why my package from AVO and Torano arrived in the US mail and not UPS.
ikonoklast7 Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 4:19 PM EST
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That's BS, the lady doesn't know what she's talking about.

The first time I shipped cigars to anyone was my first trade a week ago.

The lady knew I had cigars, cuz I told her and she even helped me find a box big enough to accomodate the Baccarat Cigars chest I sent my trade items in.

There ARE some states where you can't give tobacco as a promotional item over the mail, and I don't know how this affects trades and gift sending. AVO overcomes this by charging you for the shipping ($2) if you get one of the cigars free from one of their internet promotions. I haven't received my Torano in the mail yet, so I don't know how they do it.

Robby Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 4:20 PM EST
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I insured the box pass that just got shipped out. The contents were described as collectibles. Not streching the truth there!
mrsanmrfox Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 4:52 PM EST
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Funny this should come up, My first trade I went in and stated that I hade perishables and then proceeded to ask for insurance. The lady stated to me I cannot put insurance on food. It took me a second and then told her that not all perishables are food and that what I had in the box had a value that I felt needed insurance. No problems after that. Also how does Cbid or CI ship their stuff to us if they are not allowed according to the post office lady. Maybe they have a deal with the USPS or connections. :) she must have been new or either dumb. I will hope for the best.
0patience Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 4:52 PM EST
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Ikon,
Torano sends them in a shipping tube with styrofoam popcorn. The cigar is in a plastic bag in the shipping popcorn. I got mine today.
A Torano Exodus 1959 silver edition. A dandy looking cigar.
And the mailman delivered it.
It even says that Torano is a cigar company on the tube.
ikonoklast7 Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 5:00 PM EST
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Did you do it through that offer on Torano's website?

If so, then I'm glad! I was hoping it'd be a Exodus Silver or Signature that would come...since I don't really like the Exodus '59.
0patience Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 5:03 PM EST
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Ikon,
Yes, that'd be the one.
About a week and a half ago.
The one from AVO showed up last week.
Now I wish I had another of those. :)
Both of them arrived thru the US Mail.
puskarich Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Aug 11 2003, 6:41 PM EST
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I think I read on here before where someone's cigar package was refused by the post office. I think they had to ship it from another post office. That brings up an interesting question....

If you arent supposed to mail cigars, what happens if you insure them and they come up missing? Can you collect the insurance for something that wasnt supposed to be mailed in the first place?

TinMan51 Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 4:51 AM EST
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I have never heard that " Not suppose to mail Cigars" thats a bunch of (fertalizer) *S* I ship out on the average of 12-15 packages a day and my Post Office knows full well what I'm shipping out Heck the Post Master chats with me all the time about different Cigars.. Now there is a problem with shipping them out of the country to include Canada. There you will run into problems . But there is always a way around Most Problems if you just reaserch alittle. I don't ship out side the USA because I don't want the hassle but as far as with in the country I think some one was sniffing alittle to much of the Postal Glue. LMAO..TinMan
jd1 Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 5:22 AM EST
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I lie if they ask me if I'm sending cigars. After standing in line as long as I do putting up with people in line with no clue, I just want to get out of their without going nuts. Still the cheapest way to send a package.
puskarich Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 7:45 AM EST
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Ahhhhh, yes. Here it is:

http://www.cigarbid.com/...geDisplay=0000000010564

I read somewhere before that you can receive and mail cigars/cigarettes as long as they are for personal use only. Some states require residents to report the purchase of mail order cigarettes so that taxes can be collected. From what I understand, this does not apply to cigars and other tobacco products.

I, personally, have never had any problems mailing them. However, I've never told them what I was mailing. Most of the guys in my post office wouldnt care. However, there is this one older guy working there that is a pr*ck. I could definitely see this guy refusing to mail something just because he wasnt in a good mood that day.
tonester666 Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 8:20 AM EST
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You guys have to stand in line at the PO? Unbelievable. I have never had any trouble mailing gars all they ask is fragile, perishables, liquid or hazardous material.

I say fragile and they stamp it. I have never seen a line at either PO I use.
arwings Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 9:28 AM EST
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Wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that by Federal law it is illegal for minors to have tobacco? Technically, I guess if you were mailing them to a minor under the age of 18 (or is it 21, now) you would be breaking the law (although I don't know how they would know that)........just wondering..........
snowwolf777 Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 9:47 AM EST
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The woman at the PO being a fine example of a Federal employee who "thinks" she knows the law as opposed to "knowing" she knows the law. I deal with the Fed all the time, and there's no shortage of "thinkers."

I don't know what's more sad - the fact they don't know the law, or the fact they work for the entity that made up the law.
ikonoklast7 Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 10:11 AM EST
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I live in Indiana and I just went down to the PO today to send some PAMs to emgjet and jazzman

The lady saw them...even helped me box them...and didn't say a word about a law against shipping cigars.

(By the way, the lady at the post office must've been 40 or 50, but she was hot! A real MILF)
gorob23 Offline
#18 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 1:00 PM EST
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Ok I just asked my regular PO man. He knew the Lady, said he had no idea other than people putting "things" in them but since he knew me he had no problem, and he said She probably had seen me before which is why she took it ?! Anyway I going to send a mix box of things tomorrow to the jazzmanz bro and we shall see....Ooo this is confusing and makes my head hurt good thing it's volleyabll at the beach and BBQ and Gars after Now Robby about that box pass !!!!!see ya all
Steve*R Offline
#19 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 1:37 PM EST
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Both UPS and USPS employees received a memo regarding the shipping of tobacco products to New York. Apparently the NY legislature enacted legislation which prohibits the mail order/common carrier delivery of cigarettes within the state. It appears that alot of confusion was engendered by the memo. I've already been challenged when I tried to ship cigars from one state to another, but neither of which is New York.

If you falsely declare the contents, insurance for the lost parcel can be problematic, if the parcel is ultimately recovered.
Messier11 Offline
#20 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 4:11 PM EST
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Same story here in FL. They always ask blah, blah, perishables, blah, blah. I just say "no" and that's the end of the story. Don't sweat it. I usually don't insure but will get a delivery confirmation. Just for peace of mind.
tandem401 Offline
#21 Posted: Tue, Aug 12 2003, 4:48 PM EST
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Steve*R,

Would not that New York law be considered restraining commerce? If not, how is it different.
penzt8 Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Aug 14 2003, 4:54 AM EST
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OK, I had too much time on my hands. Here's what the USPS website offers for info.

http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/pubs/pub52.pdf
Pub 52 is the guide for Hazardous, Restricted, and Perishable Mail. It only restricts the shipment of Tobacco seeds and plants. There is no restriction specified for domestic shipments of cigars.

http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/pubs/pub141.pdf
Pub 141 is the global express guide that outlines the shipping limitations for cigars to various countries. They do restrict shipment of cigars to many countries.
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