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RICKAMAVEN Offline
#1 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 4:01 PM EST
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Bush $28 mil reducing DRAFT activation time to 75 days, 35,000 NG to Iraq!

Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 10:46 AM by Dems Will Win
The following timeline gives you the main events indicating the resumption of the military draft. According to this, the draft will be needed to maintain troop levels in Iraq past March 2005, barring double deployments. $28 million is allocated by the Selective Service to reduce activation time from the current 8 months to 75 days by March 31, 2005. If Bush asks Congress on April 1, 2005 to reinstate conscription, the first Draft Lottery could be June 15, 2005. A Medical Draft and a new Special Skills Draft would also be activated automatically. BTW, Kerry has stated he is opposed to the draft and has detailed how he would avoid having to reinstate it.

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05



Robby Offline
#2 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 4:24 PM EST
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Rick, in Israel, military service is compulsory. How does that make you feel?
usahog Offline
#3 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 4:41 PM EST
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"Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 10:46 AM by Dems Will Win"
"If Bush asks Congress on April 1, 2005 to reinstate conscription, the first Draft Lottery could be June 15, 2005"

IF??? IF do you see what I see.. even the Dems Will Win

Know it will be BUSH CHENEY 2004 if Bush is going to have to ask Congress in Arpil 2005... Dumb A$$'s LMAO!!!!!

Rick I have on another thead already posted who is for the draft and pushing it hard.. every last one of them are Democrats the drafting of it to the sponcers.. all Dems.. and then for election time they are going to turn this around to make it look like Bush is wanting it and try to draw the voters away from Bush/Cheney by saying your sons and daughters are not safe.. Watch and see..... these **** brains cannot even keep a story straight in the same paragraph!!!!! and their going to run the country?? more like Ruin it like the previous I didn't have sex with her Billy...

Hog
JonR Offline
#4 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 4:44 PM EST
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Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 10:46 AM by " Dems Will Win ", yeah right when pigs can fly. LMAO JonR
HockeyDad Offline
#5 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 4:45 PM EST
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Rick,

This conspiracy theory is already over 5 months old.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3242923.stm

The reinstatement of the draft could have come at any time since registration was reinstituted by President Jimmy Carter in 1979. Reinstatement will require an act of congress and presidential signature. That has not happened since 1979.
JonR Offline
#6 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 5:56 PM EST
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Once again the maven falls through his ass with his anti-Bush conspiracy theory fed to him by some pablum pukin anti-bush website. Eat hearty Rick, enjoy. JonR
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#7 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 7:38 PM EST
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Robby

i am jewish and an american citizen, not an israeli citizen.

don't you understand there is a difference. what they do is their business.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#8 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 7:42 PM EST
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HockeyDad

thanks for the link. maybe i slept in the day that was written. this is one of those times i hope for everyone else's kids i am flat out wrong.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#9 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 7:44 PM EST
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usahog

my friend, when has bush asked congress for permission to do anything.

either way i fight my good fight to the bitter end and i see a large lady singing.
usahog Offline
#10 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 7:59 PM EST
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I new this was coming... here read and heed...

Original Sponsors to this Bill...
H.R. 163
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?r108:2:./temp/~r108CJKcOw::


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 7, 2003
Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. STARK, and Mr. ABERCROMBIE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services



H.R.163
Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] New York-15th, Democrat (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors: 13
Related Bills: S.89
Latest Major Action: 2/3/2003 House committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Executive Comment Requested from DOD.


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COSPONSORS(13), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)



Rep Abercrombie, Neil - 1/7/2003 [HI-1] Hawaii-1st, Democrat
Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 1/28/2003 [MO-1] Missouri-1st, Democrat
Rep Cummings, Elijah E. - 1/28/2003 [MD-7] Maryland-7th, Democrat
Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila - 1/28/2003 [TX-18] Texas-18th, Democrat
Rep McDermott, Jim - 1/7/2003 [WA-7] Washington-7th, Democrat
Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes - 1/28/2003 [DC] District of Columbia-Delegate, Democrat
Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. - 1/28/2003 [NY-12] New York-12th, Democrat
Rep Brown, Corrine - 1/28/2003 [FL-3] Florida-3rd, Democrat
Rep Conyers, John, Jr. - 1/7/2003 [MI-14] Michigan-14th, Democrat
Rep Hastings, Alcee L. - 1/28/2003 [FL-23] Florida-23rd, Democrat
Rep Lewis, John - 1/7/2003 [GA-5] Georgia-5th, Democrat
Rep Moran, James P. - 1/28/2003 [VA-8] Virginia-8th, Democrat
Rep Stark, Fortney Pete - 1/7/2003 [CA-13] California-13th, Democrat

S.89 Title: A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [SC] (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors: (none)


Hog, and I didn't sign on to this one...
usahog Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 8:01 PM EST
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now as I was saying Rick... when they will use this against Bush is during the election time frame...trying to push it through and make Bush out the bad guy....

I'll rest for now...

Hog
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Mar 2 2004, 9:26 PM EST
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usahog

i hate it when you make me eat crow.
tastes like chicken tho.
rayder1 Offline
#13 Posted: Wed, Mar 3 2004, 9:22 AM EST
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Good thing I have all daughters.
Even if I had sons, I would urge them to join the military on their terms. Easier than to be drafted. You get better jobs if you enlist.
bassdude Offline
#14 Posted: Wed, Mar 3 2004, 9:37 AM EST
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Rayder, did you miss the 'including women'?
rayder1 Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Mar 3 2004, 9:43 AM EST
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I saw it, they won't do it. They will exclude them. It won't go over well, but they will win an exclusion.

Nice thought on their part, I wouldn't disagree, but percentage wise, way fewer women are willing to respond to a draft than men.

The teen pregnancy rate and intra military pregancy rate will explode if they include women.
bassdude Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Mar 3 2004, 9:46 AM EST
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good point.
Robby Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Mar 3 2004, 3:19 PM EST
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So Rick? Are you going to vote a straight Republican ticket to help save our youth from endentured servitude while risking life and limb against their will? You are, aren't you? You wouldn't vote Dem and risk our children being drafted? Or would you simply to express your hatred of republicans in spite of what the "evil left wing" has planed for our best and brightest?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Mar 3 2004, 3:57 PM EST
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Robby

as i recall, my oldest had to register for the draft. he didn't get called. if he did i would have moved the entire family to iwo jima, before i would let the f'n government kill him. it is a parents duty to protect it's young.

you will have to decide for yourself what you want to do.
CWFoster Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Mar 3 2004, 5:04 PM EST
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usahog

i hate it when you make me eat crow.
tastes like chicken tho.

Rick, you are a hard man to pin! But I respect anyone who can admit they're wrong. (No I'm not trying to imply you've become a Republican and going to vote for Bush, just that you DID admit error on this issue) You sir, have my respect!

BZ Hog!
JonR Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Mar 3 2004, 6:17 PM EST
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Yo Rick: " f'n government ", eh... thanks for doing us a favor he would mostly be like you a slacker who f**ks up other soldiers records because he doesn't like them. We don't need your kind in the military. JonR
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Mar 3 2004, 7:08 PM EST
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JonR

are you or have you ever been in any branch of the military?
JonR Offline
#22 Posted: Thu, Mar 4 2004, 7:09 AM EST
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Rick: USMC 61-65 JonR
Robby Offline
#23 Posted: Thu, Mar 4 2004, 8:49 AM EST
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Oooh Raw! Thanks for serving Jon.
CWFoster Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Mar 4 2004, 12:29 PM EST
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OOOOH-Rah! Jon R! Semper Fi!
usahog Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Mar 4 2004, 1:42 PM EST
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JonR, Thank you for your service...God Bless...

Rick, 61-65 isn't that 4 years??? if my memory serves me correct you were service 51-53?? 2 yrs

JonR has two years up on you... not good odds on the black jack tables in Vegas...

this thread brings back memories of Jbrinski and Sonny on schooling.. when Sonny took the professor to school.. LMAO!!!

Hog
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Mar 4 2004, 2:02 PM EST
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usahog

tomorrow i will look at my discharge papers. i was 4 months shy of 4 years, so eother i posted the wrong dates or you remember them wrong.

i know guys, as i'm sure you do, that served less and had a worse tour then i did, and guys that served more and never did a damn thing except put in time.

either way JonR still has a dirty mouth and an inability to comprehend.

usahog Offline
#27 Posted: Thu, Mar 4 2004, 6:11 PM EST
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Rick I could have very well remembered wrong and then that would mean the both of us ate crow in the same thread.. also.. my crow doesn't taste like chicken it tastes like Cat....LOL

Hog

Either way back to this thread... if you think for a minute with Kerry in office your kids are safe.. your wrong wrong wrong.... he would in a heartbeat enact the draft.. lower rank = lesser pay which in turn cuts down on military spending and he as clinton wouldn't and doesn't give a rats ass about the military...
We have Volunteer force right now and it works Great...
if you look at the draft post I put up there.. the action item is awaiting DOD to give clarification to the Senate arms commitie... since how long now???
as to what the numbers are on the military forces and how low or high they are... this information for a reason is in stall.. to allow the recruting to step up and then once filled positions that are opened are fill it will show there is no need for this to be pushed through... and if asked would I do another 19 yrs in the military.. Answer Hell Yes.. but not with the same unit I am assigned...Time for a Change...

Hog
rayder1 Offline
#28 Posted: Sun, Mar 7 2004, 8:58 AM EST
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Rick...I would gladly drive any of my kids down to the recruiting office and let them enlist is they choose to do so. With stipulations they take every advantage of educational opportunities and advance through the ranks. They can serve their (your words...pardon the profanity) f'n country.

There has to be someone to serve and protect this f'n country so people can whine and moan about the gvt. without persecution. And even protect those who would choose to flee the country and live in exile so they can make a private point. A point no-one really understands except for a few, a point not very many people will respect if allowed to return from exile.

I don't agree with everything our government does, and sometimnes I even agree with rickmaven's opinions. I am glad to see his beloved democrats betrayed him. I am glad he doesn't have draft age children.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#29 Posted: Sun, Mar 7 2004, 10:54 AM EST
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rayder1

thank you for paragraph 3.
usahog Offline
#30 Posted: Sun, Mar 7 2004, 12:16 PM EST
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Rayder, great post.. I myself had tried with no luck to have my children join the guard/reserves... here in Illinois they have a program through the GI bill extended 100% college tuition for a 6 yr enlistment with a kicker from the SGLI to pay these students to go to school.. myself and a supervisor figured this up one day before 911... and these kids were getting a 4 yr college degree paid for 100%, Paid their military pay (which is adjusted to their rank) and if full time student they got an offset check from the state for $720.00 a month (this may be more now?) there service to the nation and state 6 yrs = 39 days a yr/ 1 weekend a month (2 days) and 15 days (annual field training) so in 6 yrs they serve 234 days total and their income for this is $58,000 give or take a couple $100.00...and to boot a college degree 4 yrs...
in my 19 yrs I know guy's gals I have trained who are now airline pilots, lawyers, doctors, nurses, cops, scientists, Computer guru's, you name it.. many of these people are still finishing their 20 yr hitch but many took the 6 yr deal and went on... the ones who stayed.. they bring a more quality service then I feel someone who is drafted and does not want to be there would do... voluntery force is the only way to go with this... it has been working for many years and every day we/I see knew blood coming in.. kids with dreams and a means of making those dreams come true... the active services also have these programs.. probably not as well as the one I know of above.. but all in all.. a draft is not going to give us the best fighting force in the world, as we have now... it will demeanor the armed forces and bring on turmoil as did the don't ask don't tell policy did when Clinton came into office...

just my .02 cents
Hog
Cavallo Offline
#31 Posted: Sun, Mar 7 2004, 1:02 PM EST
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bro's, there's nothing wrong with taking exception to what one's GOVERNMENT does. the government is not the United States of America; her people are.

one can be greatly patriotic for OPPOSING the government when he feels that his GOVERNMENT is threatening his COUNTRY.

remember, the maxim isn't just "my country right or wrong." the rest goes, "when right to keep her right; when wrong to STEER her right."

one person's idea of right and another's may differ wildly -- yet both can fully love and support our nation and wish to see it prosper.
CWFoster Offline
#32 Posted: Sun, Mar 7 2004, 1:39 PM EST
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Yes, but Cavallo, Rick is so myopic as regards his hatred of Bush that he's willing to ensure the situation gets worse just for the sake of change. He has no suggestions better that voting for Kerry, who will no doubt make us wish for Slick Willie again! He wants to dismantle the machine without a viable replacement, and that borders on anarchy! Which would be a solution for what?
CWFoster Offline
#33 Posted: Sun, Mar 7 2004, 1:40 PM EST
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Not to mention those are the people backing the nonsense that this thread was started over!
JonR Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Mar 7 2004, 2:09 PM EST
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Like I said before, Rick is a commie pinko trying to disguise himself as a liberal. You can tell it's true by Ricks foul mouth and his posting of things that he fails to comprehend. JonR
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MACS Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 1:39 PM EST
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I volunteered 17 years ago at 17 years old. 3 more and i'm retiring.

Just so you all know... I call myself a republican, because on the majority of issues, I agree with the republicans. G-dub has been royally pissing me off though, because he could give 2 shiznits about the military. Look up concurrent receipt and you will see that he is screwing us.

In a nutshell, concurrent receipt does not allow a military member to collect a military pension AND disability pay. So, whatever we are entitled to as far as disability goes, comes out of our military retirement. We are the only people that get hosed by that law. Government Civil Service? No problem, you get both.

Also, figure this one out: I have to do 20 years and attain the rank of E-8 to earn $2,000 a month. A Senator or Congressman serves one friggin' term and they get a $15,000 a month pension. MY a$$ is the one going into harms way... yet THEY get the huge pension because they make the laws? How fair is THAT?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 1:53 PM EST
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MACS(SW)

you ask a good question. my answer would be, it isn't fair.
MACS Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 1:56 PM EST
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Rick,

Don't get your panties in a twist. I'm still voting for Bush because he'll be better for the US. It ain't just about what's good for me... though i'd like to think it was. ;-)
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#40 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 5:01 PM EST
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CWFoster

hatred is not really the feeling i have for the little man. he is just the puppet singing "there are no string on me." notice how much longer his nose is now then it was before.

without his handlers, he probably would be a hang around guy who poorly raised two daughters. not really much of anything.

why do you find it necessary to call clinton "slick willie"? i know he could sell a used car to a blind man and tell him it's new. but i don't need the name calling.

we have changed presidents before and hopefully we will again and again and again. why is that considered dismantling the machine. i prefer kerry over bush, you don't. so what. that's what voting is all about.

we have some time before anarchy rears it's head.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#41 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 5:04 PM EST
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MACS(SW)

i just answered your question. you asked if it was fair and i said it wasn't. why did your feathers get ruffled.
pabloescabar Offline
#42 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 5:11 PM EST
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and I almost always agree with rickmister.
MACS Offline
#43 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 5:32 PM EST
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Rick - feathers weren't ruffled at all. I just didn't want you to think you were converting me to Democunism.

That is what I call a Democrat/Communist... they both believe the rich have an obligation to share their hard earned money with the poor jerks who are too lazy to work. I happen to disagree.

Don't get me wrong. I respect your right to have an opinion. Mine is better though. I'm joking, relax!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#44 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 5:41 PM EST
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MACS(SW)

in response to you mine is better...

milton berle was known in the industry to have the biggest schlong ever seen. when some one wanted to bet him, he would say, i'll just take out enough to beat you.
pabloescabar Offline
#45 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 5:44 PM EST
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I aplogize for the fact I disagree with mavens right to be a democrat.
MACS Offline
#46 Posted: Sun, Mar 14 2004, 5:48 PM EST
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LMAO. You're okay rick. For a democunist. Just misguided.
usahog Offline
#47 Posted: Fri, May 28 2004, 1:37 PM EST
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as posted on another thread...Rick, Bush and administration is not the one's pushing this one see below and I will list the link to the other thread...

Hog


a little more to help those in the areas listed below when they go to vote in 2004... Who's trying to take a bite out of Our Freedoms???

Original Sponsors to this Bill...
H.R. 163
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?r108:2:./temp/~r108CJKcOw::


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 7, 2003
Mr. RANGEL (for himself, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. CONYERS, Mr. LEWIS of Georgia, Mr. STARK, and Mr. ABERCROMBIE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on Armed Services



H.R.163
Title: To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Rep Rangel, Charles B. [NY-15] New York-15th, Democrat (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors: 13
Related Bills: S.89
Latest Major Action: 2/3/2003 House committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Executive Comment Requested from DOD.


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COSPONSORS(13), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)



Rep Abercrombie, Neil - 1/7/2003 [HI-1]
Hawaii-1st, Democrat

Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy - 1/28/2003 [MO-1]
Missouri-1st, Democrat

Rep Cummings, Elijah E. - 1/28/2003 [MD-7]
Maryland-7th, Democrat

Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila - 1/28/2003 [TX-18]
Texas-18th, Democrat

Rep McDermott, Jim - 1/7/2003 [WA-7]
Washington-7th, Democrat

Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes - 1/28/2003 [DC] District of Columbia-Delegate, Democrat

Rep Velazquez, Nydia M. - 1/28/2003 [NY-12]
New York-12th, Democrat

Rep Brown, Corrine - 1/28/2003 [FL-3]
Florida-3rd, Democrat

Rep Conyers, John, Jr. - 1/7/2003 [MI-14]
Michigan-14th, Democrat

Rep Hastings, Alcee L. - 1/28/2003 [FL-23]
Florida-23rd, Democrat

Rep Lewis, John - 1/7/2003 [GA-5]
Georgia-5th, Democrat

Rep Moran, James P. - 1/28/2003 [VA-8]
Virginia-8th, Democrat

Rep Stark, Fortney Pete - 1/7/2003 [CA-13] California-13th, Democrat

S.89 Title: A bill to provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Hollings, Ernest F. [SC](D - SC) (introduced 1/7/2003) Cosponsors: (none)
HockeyDad Offline
#48 Posted: Fri, May 28 2004, 3:34 PM EST
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Considering that Representative Abercrombie is a sponsor of this bill, I'm shocked to not Representative Fitch all over it as well.
428cj Offline
#49 Posted: Fri, May 28 2004, 5:31 PM EST
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A draft, oh the horrors... What a disgusting thing for the youth of our nation to do, TO SERVE THE MILITARY OF THE USA. Why do so many people feel this is so horrible? I put my life on the line every day I'm on duty and I'd be PROUD if any child of mine would ever want to do the same (in the careers of firefighting or law enforcement like myself or in the military).

Service to the country is NOT a bad thing. The idea it is really disturbs me, but I guess not everyone has the same feelings about our nation.

Don't get me wrong, for anyone out there who has lost loved ones in service to our military I really feel for you (or firefighers or police), and I am sorry (I too have lost close family from war). All I'm saying is the USA was built on sacrifice (not that it makes it any easier any time it actually happens).

Just my two cents here.
rayder1 Offline
#50 Posted: Fri, May 28 2004, 6:49 PM EST
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What 428 said. LEO here too.

I made my statement on this thread months ago. But anyone who serves, whether drafted or voluntary, domestic or abroad, deserves respect.

I started my domestic service at the age of 21 exactly 21 years 6 months ago. 8 1/2 years and one bad day to go.
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