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missed it, actually I turned him off. What did I miss?

LMAO at Bush.

His stupidity aside......He still may be the only President I have ever seen that relies 100% on what other's say to him and brief him on. Anything that comes out of his mouth that isn't scripted......is usually a snide smirk, or an abrasive jab with a texas kick, to fight his way out of the holes he digs himself.

Everything that has his name attached to it, internationally, and the interests that we have persued in his term.....have been negative. Sad.

Bush will not get my vote.
I want McCain!

JMO
Dave

God help this country if Kerry gets elected

I missed it but I probably could not have looked at Kerry for an hour anyway.

Good question Ford man.

How do you vote for this man when his wife gives so much money to hate groups? I honestly never thought I'd see anybody waffle more than Clinton then this guy shows up. Hell Clinton's own staffed used his inability to decide against him.

Sonny_LSU

"yep, McCain......a bright light swallowed by a sea of idiots." absolutely.

i had to read this all twice before i realized who you were all talking about.

Robby's answer to pabloescabar, finally clued me in.

i really thought that pabloescabar was talking about little w.

As much as the press & some others would like to get George to start second guessing himself & his decision making processes & sources of information, he can't afford to do that. He has to keep his eye on the ball & stay the course. Besides, if he started playing to that game they would accuse "him" of being a waffler & being wishy washy.
I'm voting for George Dubya Bush & proud of it.

hat

"decision making processes" you mean like:
eeny, meeny, maihny, mo?

"keep his eye on the ball & stay the course" that's what he was doing on the golf course instead of paying attention to the PDB's.

""him"" you forgot to capitalize the H.

"wishy washy." isn't that lux soap, so pure it even floats.

"proud of it." isn't there some kind of saying that goes "pride goeth before the fall?"

And you're doing exactly what you criticize them for. At least they know that they're biased.

I love this...

There's no WMD's because we haven't found any yet, but when we search for Kerry’s foreign leader support... it MUST be there!! LOL at the left.

Kerry was the worst! We need more of his "interviews" to show just how shallow and stupid the Democrat candidate can be! I thought Gore was good for a few laughs, this guy could be an entire standup!

Charlie

dbguru,

You're a pretty angry individual aren't you?

Question: Do you believe that Clarke's book was politically motivated?

unstand = understand sorry about my spelling

Oh yeah, and why are you so angry?

db's a poo poo head!

It's very clear where the "poo poo" lies and it is not with db. As db said, to make a simple point, Kerry's record from Viet Nam is published. Where is Bush's? Why are pay records missing? Why did it take an "act of congress" to get what has been found? Why can't George W. answer his service questions himself? Why can't George W. answer to the 911 commission himself? Why does George W. always have someone else do his talking for him? None of these questions can be answered by any of you. You can only ignore and blow smoke. You can only do that so long before you really start to look foolish. Kerry should never have said anything about foreign leaders (dignitaries?) favoring him, although I have no doubt that he has dined and spoken with many. Half the time they will tell you what you want to hear anyway, if they think it might bring favor and you might be elected. They probably told George W. the same thing about him, but no one told Bushie to talk about it, so he didn't.

Bush's full records were disclosed including his medical and dental records, pay info, everything. Kerry said he would disclose everything and then didn't and now appears to be doing so after a lengthy delay (stop me when I start lying AJ). So again, the classic waffle "I voted for the 87 million before I voted against it..."

Do you have pay records from the 70s? I don't. Do you think the pentagon deletes or modifies this sort of thing on request? Isn't that a slap at our military and not the president? I know the left loathes our military…

Bush IS the president, why does he have to stand up and answer your stupid ass questions about his National Guard service in the 70s? What kind of idiotic request is that? Did you ever consider that he IS the president of the United States and maybe, just maybe? He has one or two things on his plate? Sorry if he doesn't take the time to stop by your place for dinner and sign something in blood that still wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference in your opinion anyway. The bottom line is, you hate him, you're not going to vote for him, and you're looking for excuses to justify your rationalizations.

You may not have a detailed knowledge of how Government works. There are issues of separation of power and responsibility put in place by the framers of our constitution. The President doesn't need to testify before the 9/11 commission, but if he does, it will go a long way toward making them look even more like the hapless bunch of political hacks they are. That charade is the biggest farce every foisted on the American people and it's disgusting because it dishonors all those who died that day.

You may have no doubt that Kerry has dined with and spoken to many foreign leaders "in the time frame he says he did", even though there is nothing to substantiate that bogus claim. Just like I have no doubt that Hillary "spoke with" former dead first ladies in the white house... What a kook…

funny, but the boston globe talks about another man as being kerry's commanding officer.

no, i'm not pro-kerry. but i don't like rumors to go on if i have other info about it. that goes for kerry OR bush or anyone else.

anyway, you can read the whole scoop about all of kerry's purple hearts on snopes here:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp

it wasn't a little "fingernail scratch" injury -- it was a piece of hot, flying shrapnel. and it wasn't an uncommon injury.

"There were an awful lot of Purple Hearts — from shrapnel, some of those might have been M-40 grenades," said George Elliott, Kerry's commanding officer. "The Purple Hearts were coming down in boxes. Kerry, he had three Purple Hearts. None of them took him off duty. Not to belittle it, that was more the rule than the exception."

he was wounded the first time when he volunteered for a special mission. in a fire fight, his M-16 jammed, and when he reached for another, "a stinging piece of heat socked into my arm and just seemed to burn like hell."

he was back on duty the next day, his service uninterrupted. the globe reports that the injury, however, caused him "pain for years afterwards."

Another quote from the same article "Kerry declined a request from the Globe to sign a waiver authorizing the release of military documents that are covered under the Privacy Act and that might shed more light on the extent of the treatment Kerry needed as a result of the wounds."

I wonder why? What is he hiding?? Also, I heard on the news this AM that one of his wounds was "IN THE BUTTOCKS SIR!" Didn't see mention of that on Snopes... I wonder why?

Neo Con = New Conservative not a traditional conservative in the sense of Richard Nixon, Barry Goldwater, etc...
Neo Con = A conservative with a religious social agenda.

This is as much of a name as you referring to me as a Liberal. And since the right has made every effort to demonize the word Liberal and make crass generalizations about Liberals, it is absolutely fair game for the same to be done about Bush supporting Neo Cons.... Especially those who make it an art form (as in Neo-con Artist)

DB

I will stop using the name "Neo con" when all pundits on the right stop demonizing the name Liberal and those who are liberals and treat the word "liberal" with some respect.

This is getting funny

Policy on Government Handouts under Clinton - Welfare reform

Policy on Government handouts under Bush - Corporate welfare like padded contracts to Haliburton, Bechtel and subsidiaries, Medicare reform resulting in major handouts to drug companies and HMOs, etc. etc.......I don't think too many fiscally conservative folks which including most Democrats support this. Note Fiscal conservative does not equal mindless neo-conservative Bush supporter. They are mutually exclusive. The fiscal conservative cares about out future from a financial perspective. The neo con is all about rich getting richer and stealing from our future to the benefit of the richest 0.5% of the country.

I don't look for any handouts... and I pay my taxes... a significant amount...

Speaking about trashing my kids future...Save the air.... Well as far as I know most liberals on this site smoke cigars..... so I'm guilty!! I pollute on a daily basis. However the environment is Gods gift to us and to date there have been over 400 Bush policy decisions detrimental to the enviroment.... way more than an other president ever. Every major environmental group has judged bush to be in a class by himself as the worst environmental president ever.

Bush likes trashing God's gift, our environment, and yet claims to be born again.... How hypocritical can that be...

And by the way, what do you have against bean sprouts?
(Some liberals hate them too.. I happen to like them...)

Robby ... you drink too much koolaid
try bean sprouts....

Then you might be able to comprehend what corporate welfare in America is.

Marxist. C'mon you drink too much of the Bush Kool aid to use this term with any accuracy.

That is a false and deceptive arguement basically intended to shift focus away from the big picture to your own personalized and very simplified scenario. Your scenario is fundamentally diversionary.

Even if I accept your scenario as a fact on it's own merit, it doesn't really deal with the huge, very complex and highly (intentionally) obscured big picture of corporate welfare reality. It's so much bigger than your simple scenarios that come from your own companies experience.

So even if your scenario is true its darn irrelevant in the grand scheme of things....

Open up your perspective and consider things beyond your own companies experience..

DB

OK so you have a working stiff like me who works his ass off for $150,000 salary and I have to pay 35% taxes and you have some lazy heir that makes $150,000 in dividends on stocks that his daddy gave him and he pays 15% or less on his taxes.

Do you really think that is fair??

Bush's policies rewards wealth... not productivity and hard work....

You have proven your complete lack of understanding of the term Marxist...

Quote from “dbguru”
“Bush's policies rewards wealth... not productivity and hard work....”

So with your above statement, do you believe that a McDonalds burger flipper should get paid $500,000+ a year? They work really freakin hard and produce a lot. When I was 16 and washed dishes at a restaurant, it was the hardest job I ever did... should you and Kerry reimburse me for my work and productivity?

Do you think there are people who voted for Bush who think we invaded Iraq for the wrong reasons and we should not be in Iraq?...that "terrorism" is now on the rise instead of diminishing?... that we are making five more terrorists for each one killed?... that we are not safer, but more at risk because of the policies followed? What do you call these people? Turncoats? Traitors? Conservatives gone bad? Why do you have to put a label on everyone. That is truly a sign of shallow thinking. I call them Americans. In a Washington AP article in my local paper it discusses Americans thoughts on terrorism as reflected by polls. Half of Americans have concerns that terrorists might be winning the war on terrorism, and 1 in 5 believe strongly that way. Two thirds said it was likely that terrorists would strike in the US before the Nov. elections. A third said it was likely there would be an attack at one of the political conventions this summer. Two thirds of Americans acknowledge concern that terrorists may be recruiting faster than the US can keep up. A third feel strongly this is the case. The Bush administration calls the invasion of Iraq as "a front line in the war on terrorism". Those who say Bush made a right decision to invade Iraq, 48 percent, are now about even with those who think it was a mistake, 49 percent. Sampling error was +- 3%. I guarantee that a lot of these people voted for Bush. Do you think of all of these people as "commie liberals"? That would be very wrong. This is not a case of ultra-liberals against ultra-conservatives as much as you would try to make it to be, and as much as you might think, you are not smarter than all of these people. This is people, like you and me, trying to understand and make their minds up on what they think is RIGHT (as in not wrong). Try to stick with the issues and see both sides. We'll all be better for it. Unfortunately, when people lie or try to hide or cover up things in the past, it becomes an issue. Many of us are forgiving people, and can put that aside depending on the magnitude of it. If there is a track record of it, people become concerned. In politics, perception is everything and the spin doctors spin. You have to get past the spin whether you're for it or against it. I supported two Republican governors in Illinois who did well and were both multi-term govs. I supported Ronald Regan. I am a conserv-eral. My belief: we need the money being spent in Iraq being spent here and our foreign policy cannot take another four years of the Bush administration! He just has the wrong people around him and they made some bad decisions. I think he could have been a good president had he not been so influenced by those people, but the buck stops with the president. Besides that, he refuses to pronounce NUCLEAR. Never! He will not! Does that say anything to you about the man's character. Taken with all of the other "personal revelations" that have surfaced. It does me. It's something I can't overlook. If he corrected himself, I would overlook it. The fact that he's gonna damn well do whatever the hell George Bush is gonna do and to hell with everyone who doesn't like it...... some might think that's a good trait for a leader. I don't in this case. In this case, It belittles everyone else who takes the time to "get it right". Perception is everything. It's NUCLEAR, stupid!