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usahog Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 1:15 PM EST
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Ok I broke down and rented the Flap of Michael Moore and at the same time the new release of Fahren"Hype" 911..

I would suggest to everyone who watchs the one to also watch the other...

Michael Moore is very convincing in his slap together documentary... he even had my daughter upset with Bush and America....

I couldn't honestly answer my daughters questions about his movie without honestly watching the POS... this Low Life Slob is a waiste of Gods Good Skin!!!! and quite simply so are the Idiots who would believe his documentary....

if you do view his crap back it up with watching the other also... get the fair and balanced on the issue's...

my .02 cents worth...

Hog
SteveS Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 2:00 PM EST
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IMO, that advise is worth more than 2ยข ...
Charlie Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 2:04 PM EST
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IMO, why waste your time watching any of Michael Moore's crap?

Charlie
usahog Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 2:42 PM EST
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I thought the very same thing Charlie... But a few days ago my daughter called me and asked If I had seen it and she wanted to discuss it and was upset and crying about it... this is an impact Michael Moore's crap is doing to the younger generation... My daughter said that because of viewing this film and seeing the facts about Bush in it she doesn't think she is going to vote for him... WOW this was a setback for herself and myself...

So as I said to be fair about it I rented both films and viewed them and Anyone else who watches the one should view the other... the "Hype" video was even better then Moore's crap... you will see victims of moore's doc explained in the other that isn't explained in his crap...

Hog
drjothen Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 3:15 PM EST
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I want to see the Moore "docu-comedy" but just have a hard time knowing that even part of my rental fee goes into donut budget. I will eventually maybe after enjoying a fifth or so of JD.

DRJ
S4_biturbo Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 5:20 PM EST
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I haven't seen Farenhype and only part of Farenheit. Does Farenhype dispute (and if so, how) any of the following.

1) dubya's 7 minute look of "uh, what do I do now" after being informed our nation is under attack.

2) Granting Bin Laden's family the right to fly out of the US immediately following the attack.

3) dubya's claim that Iraq posed a "serious and grave" threat to the US?

If Farenhype attempts to clear up any of the above, or for that matter, any of the other numerous f ups by our president, I look forward to seeing it.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 8:16 PM EST
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i have seen michael moore's fahrenheit. i will see the fahrenhype now that i know it is available. i saw a point of view i expected to see and when i see fahrenhype, i will expect to see a different point of view. i saw no lies in fahrenheit. i will judge fahrenhype after i see it.

or let me put it in words that you guys prefer.

i won't waste my beautiful mind watching fahrenhype, which i know is a bunch of crap put out by fat republicans who will spend the profit eating cake and candy after telling me a bunch of crap about other people unless i get drunk enough to see it. but it will be crap because that is all those fat pigs can do is lie and tell crap and i won't waste my time watching crap. i'd like to hit the theater owner or the projectionist, or anybody that disagrees with my brilliant opinions in the head with a claw hammer or a two by four because i don't want to get any crap blood on my good claw hammer. so there.

either way my opinion will not be based on the following

the Flap of Michael Moore

this Low Life Slob is a waiste of Gods Good Skin!!!! and quite simply so are the Idiots who would believe his documentary....

his crap

Michael Moore's crap? (from poster who has not seen the documentery but feels he can offer an opinion.)

Moore's crap

Moore "docu-comedy

part of my rental fee goes into donut budget. (from a poster whose opinion seems to be based on weight)

these are almost as dumb as another poster wanting to hit kerry in the head with a claw hammer. (from a poster who needs anger management)



18delta Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 8:33 PM EST
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rick,

that does it. i'm sending out that fiver of valium immediately.
pabloescabar Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 9:12 PM EST
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hey Rick let's you and me take them's valium's get drunk then watch the fahrenhype compare note's then talk story cuz...
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Oct 11 2004, 9:41 PM EST
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i just checked my blood pressure
110/72

i'm cool.

stop over pablo, the door isn't locked for you.
usahog Offline
#11 Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2004, 1:35 AM EST
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"If Farenhype attempts to clear up any of the above, or for that matter, any of the other numerous f ups by our president, I look forward to seeing it."

Chitown, it answers all these questions and more... Oh and with Facts not Lies like Moore put out there... not sure you can handle this film??

Rick, I know you couldn't deal with the Hype ;0)

Hog
S4_biturbo Offline
#12 Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2004, 5:26 AM EST
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hog:

Please give me information as to the lies in Farenheit. Why not back up your statements w/some facts instead of accusations. Is Farenhype a rental - could I find it in Blockbuster? I'd be interested in seeing it.
SteveS Offline
#13 Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2004, 5:47 AM EST
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CBid has insufficient bandwidth to document all the lies and distortions ... it would, however, be a very short list to enumerate the facts and truths it contains ...
S4_biturbo Offline
#14 Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2004, 6:02 AM EST
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SteveS - nice excuse. Give me a few examples than.
SteveS Offline
#15 Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2004, 6:26 AM EST
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Here's a Website that points out a few of them ...

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm
usahog Offline
#16 Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2004, 9:36 AM EST
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"Please give me information as to the lies in Farenheit. Why not back up your statements w/some facts instead of accusations. Is Farenhype a rental - could I find it in Blockbuster? I'd be interested in seeing it."

Yep ChiTown it is a rental and at my local vid shop they were side by side...

Oh and BTW the Facts are in the Fahren"hype" 911 video...

Now what other statements have I made you would like facts on? Michael Moore being a lying POS, and anyone who would believe his drivil is also a waiste of Gods Good Skin? this is my personal observation... a freedom of speech thing not an accusation...

I should have made that statement a bit clearer... not just anyone who would believe this POS's film, but to those who believe it and then take it for gospil and do not listen to the real facts of the matter...

Remember Richard Clark?

Remember the real soldiers interviewed at Walter Reed days after coming into the hospital?

Remember the Oregon state troopers in Moore's movie...

Michael Moore is an Anti American POS!!!

Hog
drjothen Offline
#17 Posted: Tue, Oct 12 2004, 10:47 AM EST
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Ah once again the myopic one shares his wonderful insight.

As the person who posted the following:

Moore "docu-comedy

part of my rental fee goes into donut budget. (from a poster whose opinion seems to be based on weight)

Heaven forbid we try to infuse a little bit of humor into our posts. And once again, if you don't agree with MyopRick you get labled in one way or another. I have a label for you Rick but it's not polite to say it in mixed company. And I don't mean Demos & Reps!

DRJ
PMoreno349 Offline
#18 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2004, 9:04 AM EST
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I just watched Fahrenheit 911, and all I can say is...

Hi five Micheal Moore...!

In your face Bush Administration...!
usahog Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2004, 9:14 AM EST
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LMAO @ PMoreno349... **** stiring are we?? LOL

Hog

SteveS Offline
#20 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2004, 9:26 AM EST
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Despite the fact that there's never been a better example of just how right P.T.Barnum was, it's still quite shocking to realize that there truly are more than a few people in this country gullible enough to think that Michael Moore's lies and distortions have credibility because his smear-film is labeled as a documentary ... I've even seen letters to the editor in more than one newspaper where the writer said something to the effect of "well, it's a DOCUMENTARY, so it MUST be true" ...
PMoreno349 Offline
#21 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2004, 10:17 AM EST
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Hog, what would make you think that? ;-)

I am not a supporter of Bush, and I am not happy about the way the Iraq situation was handled... However,

Even I thought that some of the accusations leveled at Bush were completely unfair. The most important is any insinuation that he was negligent when it came to preventing 9/11... I especially didn't like they way they made fun of him in the opening scenes of the movie... as if he was too stupid to take action when he heard of the attacks... am I to believe that he is personally responsible for issuing instructions in a situation like that, as if there are not more qualified individuals who were all over it the moment things heated up. If I am a typical liberal who holds the basic premise the Bush is not so smart, then I would certainly hope that the detailed actions are being directed by some other highly trained person, and not by GW.

Overall, there were some funny parts (in a Al Franken way) and the movie was entertaining for me (since I am not subject to what I am sure was the gut reaction experienced by the more conservative crowd).
usahog Offline
#22 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2004, 11:05 AM EST
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Now it would be only fair to view the Fahrenhype 911 also and give yourself a shot of reality... I think you will find it a bit disturbing...

Hog
PMoreno349 Offline
#23 Posted: Wed, Oct 13 2004, 12:02 PM EST
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I will do it
CWFoster Offline
#24 Posted: Thu, Oct 14 2004, 4:32 PM EST
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CHI and Rick, many of the people in Farenheit are suing Moore for misrepresenting their views. He show only the parts of interviews that he wanted, and left out what they thought were the important parts. For instance... if I were to say " I don't agree with everything Bush has done. I think the Patriot Act and tightening the Cuban Embargo were mistakes. But I could NEVER vote for a rabid left-wing traitor like Kerry!" and if you leave out the parts you don't like (a'la Sixty Minutes) it becomes "I don't agree with Bush. I think the Patriot Act and tightening the Cuban Embargo were mistakes. I could vote for Kerry"

Notice, I didn't ADD anything to what I said the first time! I just left a bunch out! Omissions can change the whole meaning of an interview. conduct a three or four hour interview with people and get them worked up in fifteen minutes of it about something they don't like, or place the commentary out of context, and you have Farenheit 911

BTW, Kerry stood rooted where HE was for 45 minutes, and there has been NO proof, but rather refutation that ANYBODY but Air Force One and Air Force fighter/imterceptors were allowed to fly anywhere.
One last thing, listen/read the commentary from as recently as 2003, and you will hear KERRY saying that Iraq posed a very real and present threat to out security and the stability of the Middle-East!


NEXT!
rayder1 Offline
#25 Posted: Thu, Oct 14 2004, 5:59 PM EST
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Unfortunately, Farenheit 911 was designed and produced to get through to the illiterate masses who get their information solely from TV or movies.

It isn't designed for those who think, read, comprehend and make their own decisions (and discuss in online and other places). It was for those who are the hopeless sheep who will hang their hats one "documentary".

Sorry...saw it...didn't learn anything except to feel sorry for those who actually believed half the garbage portrayed by Moore.

Probably the same lot who watched Close Encounters and believe it to be true.
Skatty2hotty Offline
#26 Posted: Thu, Oct 14 2004, 7:46 PM EST
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I hear everyone complain about "Letting the Bin Laden family leave the country." What I don't understand is how we can legally detain them?

I consider myself an upstanding citizen, now, if I had a brother/father/uncle/cousin who committed a crime (of any level of severity) how could I legally be held against my will? Beyond questioning about my knowledge of the situation, how could I be held against my will? Especially if I wasn't a citizen of this country, what right does the government have to detain me because I have a P.O.S. of a relative?

Believe what you will about why and how the Bin Laden family left the country, but I'll stand by the basic freedoms given to every citizen and our laws governing visitors.
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