Ron, The first point I was trying to make with my original post was, that even with research we could overbid. At the time of the bidding the only information I had on “The Cigar” had the MSRP at around $4 a stick and I did get them at less than that. So there are NO “ sour grapes” there Orv. The second point I was trying to get across was to help out the other people on this site by listing the prices that I had found. The third point was that maybe CB can better serve the customers by giving US, the customers, an MSRP on new cigars and maybe others too. And Todog MSRP is listed on most products in the market place, the exception to that is commodities like houses ect. Auction sites like ubid do list MSRP for all of the stuff they have up for bid and if you really, really want it, you just max the bid and your done. They make a profit and the customer gets what they want at a price they wanted to pay, win, win. Char5353, All businesses are in business to service the customer and make a profit while providing that service, “opportunity pricing” is a screw the customer buyer beware practice of businesses that don’t stay in business very long. Cbid’s objective should be to keep as many of us here as possible and keep us bidding, that way they move a lot more product. One of the reasons I don’t tell people about this site is to keep the bidding down, less competition in the bidding. I feel that if there were tighter controls on the bidding then I might be more inclined to tell more people about this site. I do think this is a GREAT site I have saved hundreds of dollars over what I was paying at the local shop (That’s what I tell the wife). But greatness can be improved upon…….. Ok, I know, I’ll get off the damn soap box……. And lighten up already, some of you guys are way too serious………