I'll say this about them...They're a full bodied,well constructed cigar. I tend to go for maduros and like Leon Jimines,Mayorga,Hoyo,Partagas,and of course Padrons. I rate these slightly under a Padron. I went golfing with a friend yesterday a gave one to him and he kept commenting on it all the way down to the nub. He mentioned that he'd seen them at a couple of shops but not everywhere and had been wanting to try them but there was always another brand calling his name or funds were too low to grab one. If you see them...try one! I like the Full Sail line, but I've tried them all and they all have the same construction. Full Sail is just a heavier smoke.