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i wish this on no one, but if your wife was raped, would you expect her to bring the child to term
snowwolf777 Offline
#51 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
???

would you want to discuss this with her, or your family, or your religious leader, or abide by Sharron Angle's position which might become the law of the land.



Really? It's going to be come the law of the land if she's elected? What is she going to do, proclaim we are part of the Galactic Empire and declare herself the empress?

You sound like one of those stupid Democrat ads in Ohio, where if we elect some Republican to some office senior citizens will be marched to the ovens and AIG will take all their social security money.
tailgater Offline
#52 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
tailgater #13

"Why do you assume that the people who brag about "choosing
life" want to make abortions illegal."

all these doctors have been murdered in cold blood by those
who chose life. i don' think they cared whether abortions are
legal.

George R. Tiller, MD,

Dr. Barnett Slepian

Dr. Garson Romalis

Dr. David Gunn

Dr. John Britton, who
performed abortions, and his unarmed
escort, retired Lieutenant-
Colonel James Barrett, were both
killed by shotgun blasts in front of
the Pensacola Ladies Center by a former
Presbyterian minister, Paul Hill.



Rick,
Millions of people preach to "choose life".
Are you suggesting that those who Choose Life are glad the doctors were killed?
That's even more cynical than the previous assertation that labels them as wanting to "simply" ban abortion.
tailgater Offline
#53 Posted:
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JadeRose wrote:
I love watching a bunch of swinging dicks




Shhh



Remind me not to borrow your video collection.
HockeyDad Offline
#54 Posted:
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Jade should have started his own thread for that comment. **** threadjackers.
robertknyc Offline
#55 Posted:
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JadeRose wrote:
I love watching a bunch of swinging dicks argue over what a woman can or can't do with her body.


Yes, women should be able to do ANYTHING they want with their body, including getting drunk and driving their car across the centerline in heavy traffic, using their finger to pull the trigger on a gun at someone, using their hands to smother a sleeping husband, getting drunk everyday while pregnant, or aborting an eight and a half month old fetus, and men should have no say in any of those matters. Just like women should have no say in what men do with their bodies, including even raping them. This is the brilliant philosophy of JadeRose and many other liberals.

JadeRose wrote:
I ALSO enjoy how RICKAMAVEN can make you monkeys dance on command.


Ah, once again, JadeRose is smarter than anyone who decides to discuss politics and offer an opinion that differs from his. He is the true genius in this forum and we should all only hope to be as smart and enlightened as he is. He never debates politics anymore, and if he does, he is not a monkey like the others in here. Wow, amazing, not sure how he does it.
HockeyDad Offline
#56 Posted:
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I remember when JadeRose said he wouldn't post on political threads ever again.

I'm starting to think he is a liar!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#57 Posted:
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This could be solved by placing warning labels on hangers.

Just sayin'.Herfing
tweoijfoi Offline
#58 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
This could be solved by placing warning labels on hangers.

Just sayin'.Herfing


Warning: For external use only.
snowwolf777 Offline
#59 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
Remind me not to borrow your video collection.



LOL
JonR Offline
#60 Posted:
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Yo little dummy:


"i asked a question about something i knew nothing about."


That pretty much covers all your posting.


Turn in your maven card!


Flapper



JonR

jpotts Offline
#61 Posted:
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JadeRose wrote:
I have no reason to insult Rick. Because we live in a free society, Rick's opinion does not bother me. It's YOU I'm insulting. Of course, I don't expect your half-witted, slack jawed, automaton little self to recognize that. Just so you know..I'm not insulting you because your "opinions" bother me...it's just fun getting you all riled up and watching stupid fall out of your head.


There's one problem with your argument: I have yet to comment on either Rick, or the subject of this thread.

But if it makes you feel all warm inside to think that this really gets me all bent out of shape, you go with your bad self. Then again, people like you prefer to whine about being in the cheap seats as opposed to spending the money for a better view.

Maybe one day Jade, you get over this obsession with me and my views. When you admit that much of what you believe is wrong-headed, you'll be more accepting of the truth.

Until then, enjoy the bleachers way out in left field.
djk Offline
#62 Posted:
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Abortion is Murder.

In the USA there are many legal way's to murder; abortion, self defense, death penalty by jury, law enforcement when protecting themselves or others, etc, etc.

Just because it's legal doesn't mean its right and just because something is morally wrong doesn't mean it is not legal, ie; abortion.

300 years from now historians will look back at our society with its gov funded abortion mills and accuse of genocide. We have killed an entire American generation.

Whenever a Woman Miscaries/DNC or has an abortion she is scarred. She never forgets. Guilt and remorse may last for decades. The same is true when a woman is raped. She never forgets, she is scarred and feels guilt and remorse. Do you really think that after one horrible experience a Woman should delibertly go thru another? How sick.

Life is life.
Whistlebritches Offline
#63 Posted:
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djk wrote:
Abortion is Murder.

In the USA there are many legal way's to murder; abortion, self defense, death penalty by jury, law enforcement when protecting themselves or others, etc, etc.

Just because it's legal doesn't mean its right and just because something is morally wrong doesn't mean it is not legal, ie; abortion.

300 years from now historians will look back at our society with its gov funded abortion mills and accuse of genocide. We have killed an entire American generation.

Whenever a Woman Miscaries/DNC or has an abortion she is scarred. She never forgets. Guilt and remorse may last for decades. The same is true when a woman is raped. She never forgets, she is scarred and feels guilt and remorse. Do you really think that after one horrible experience a Woman should delibertly go thru another? How sick.

Life is life.



Amen Brother.......There are literally thousands of childless couples waiting in line to adopt.Many more who wish they could afford it.We should make adoption a much simpler process and less cost prohibitive.If it were free to give a child up for adoption and a $5000 tax to abort......Which do you think most mothers would choose.


A tax increase I support.I said many years ago I could NEVER support any tax increase..........I must be getting soft in my old age.


Ron
lluvia Offline
#64 Posted:
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fishinguitarman wrote:
So let me paint a picture here.....

A few women decide to go out on the town and have a few drinks. One of 'em gets a little 'tipsy' and sees some dude in a bar that's only there to see if he can find somebody to get a 30 second nut with. She let's the guy take her home, bangs his brains out and finds out a few weeks later she's pregnant.

Because she's got the "right" and it's "her body and her CHOICE", out of inconvience, she goes to a clinic and murders a baby.....

he's talking about rape

rape = violence/aggression
NOT consensual sex under any circumstances

...so as not to confuse the issue


RICKAMAVEN Offline
#65 Posted:
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DJK

"Whenever a Woman Miscaries/DNC or has an
abortion she is scarred. She never forgets. Guilt
and remorse may last for decades."

A LITTLE PRESUMPTUOUS OF YOU TO SPEAK
FOR ALL WOMEN. I HAVE MET SOME WOMEN
THAT HAVE HAD SEVERAL ABORTIONS AND
THEY FEEL NONE OF THOSE REGRETS YOU
MENTION.

WHILE TOBY AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN FACED
WITH A DECISION TO ABORT OR NOT TO ABORT
A FETUS, ABORTION IS MURDER IN THE PSYCHE
OF CHRISTIANS.

OTHER RELIGIONS HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS
ABOUT WHEN LIFE BEGINS, BUT CHRISTIANS,
BECAUSE OF THEIR ARROGANCE, ARE THE
ONLY ONES THAT KILL DOCTORS THAT
PERFORM ABORTIONS AND ASSUME GOD
WANTS THEM TO. IF GOD DIDN'T WANT A
DOCTOR TO PERFORM AN ABORTION, HE HAS
THE POWER TO STOP IT WITHOUT THE AID OF
SOME PSYCHOPATH WITH A GUN.

GOD MEETING AN EXECUTED MURDERER WHO
KILLED AN ABORTION DOCTOR ASKS HIM WHY
HE MURDERED THE DOCTOR,

RECENTLY EXECUTED MURDER, "YOU WANTED
ME TO SAVE THE LIVES OF THE UNBORN."

GOD SAYS, "TRUE, BUT WHERE DID YOU GET
THE STUPID IDEA I WANTED YOU TO KILL HIM?
THERE IS NO DISCLAIMER ATTACHED TO THE
6TH COMMANDMENT."

GOD TO HIMSELF, "FREE WILL WAS A MISTAKE."
HockeyDad Offline
#66 Posted:
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A LITTLE PRESUMPTUOUS OF YOU, BECAUSE OF YOUR ARROGANCE, TO SPEAK ABOUT CHRISTIANS KILLING DOCTORS THAT
PERFORM ABORTIONS AND ASSUME GOD WANTS THEM TO.
DadZilla3 Offline
#67 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
I HAVE MET SOME WOMEN THAT HAVE HAD SEVERAL ABORTIONS AND THEY FEEL NONE OF THOSE REGRETS YOU MENTION.


No regrets at all after not just one, but several abortions? Now, that's a rare kind of inner peace that special folks like Charles Manson and Jeffrey Dahmer could have definitely related to.
apachelm Offline
#68 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:


I HAVE MET SOME WOMEN
THAT HAVE HAD SEVERAL ABORTIONS AND
THEY FEEL NONE OF THOSE REGRETS YOU
MENTION.





Maybe they felt the regrets with the first killing but then became easier with each subsequent killing until they felt nothing at all? How sadSad
wheelrite Offline
#69 Posted:
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apachelm wrote:
Maybe they felt the regrets with the first killing but then became easier with each subsequent killing until they felt nothing at all? How sadSad


those women should be ashamed and ask God to forgive them.
jackconrad Offline
#70 Posted:
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This question is offensive to any decent human being.

It's like comparing Murder to natural death ..

Rapes are not normal circumstances and are hardly an excuse to morally excuse taking the innocent life of an unborn child.


tweoijfoi Offline
#71 Posted:
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Rape is extremely traumatic for the victim. Some are able to cope with the experience quickly and put it behind them. The vast majority cannot. It scars them psychologically. Rape is mostly about power and control. Victims tend to feel powerless afterwords. Most don't get pregnant... but the unfortunate ones who do are now doubly affected. They get to choose between abortion, keeping the child to term and giving it away, or raising it as their own. No one likes the idea of getting an abortion.

But they get to choose between getting one and returning to a relatively normal life, and having the fruit of that rape growing in their womb for the next 9 months. Now every day they can look in the mirror and see their belly grow because of what happened to them. They get to experience *everyone* asking them about it. Having to explain it to everyone. Or perhaps lie? So they don't have to tell everyone that they were raped and see the look on their faces? And go through that every day. Go through morning sickness, vomiting when they smell certain scents, cramps, and everything else associated with pregnancy all while knowing they never chose this. This was all because they were raped.

And their school or work life will suffer. Their social life may suffer. Plans they had for their life may be delayed or interrupted, but hey, it's okay, they're making this baby.

So the child is born. God help them if they don't have insurance to pay for the medical costs. And maybe she keeps the baby. Maybe she gives it away. Either way she now has to worry about the father. Was the rapist convicted and sent to jail? Is the rapist still free? Never caught, unconvicted, or maybe the victim just didn't report it (many don't, for embarrassment, shame). Will the father now come after them, seeking the child? If he comes and wants to help raise the child, does he have a right? What if he wants to take the child? All these fears may swirl in the mother's head because she may not know. She may never know. He may come again one night.

Now if the mother decides to raise the child--unable to bear the thought of giving up that which came to them--say goodbye to any plans or dreams they may have been working on. A career? Further education? How much power this rapist had over them, to in one single act to violence to have completely changed their life.

And now this woman is your wife. Will you raise the child with her? Expect her to bear the pain of being reminded of the rape every day?

People are so easy to pass sweeping judgment over others. You haven't the right.

wheelrite Offline
#72 Posted:
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tweoijfoi wrote:
Rape is extremely traumatic for the victim. Some are able to cope with the experience quickly and put it behind them. The vast majority cannot. It scars them psychologically. Rape is mostly about power and control. Victims tend to feel powerless afterwords. Most don't get pregnant... but the unfortunate ones who do are now doubly affected. They get to choose between abortion, keeping the child to term and giving it away, or raising it as their own. No one likes the idea of getting an abortion.

But they get to choose between getting one and returning to a relatively normal life, and having the fruit of that rape growing in their womb for the next 9 months. Now every day they can look in the mirror and see their belly grow because of what happened to them. They get to experience *everyone* asking them about it. Having to explain it to everyone. Or perhaps lie? So they don't have to tell everyone that they were raped and see the look on their faces? And go through that every day. Go through morning sickness, vomiting when they smell certain scents, cramps, and everything else associated with pregnancy all while knowing they never chose this. This was all because they were raped.

And their school or work life will suffer. Their social life may suffer. Plans they had for their life may be delayed or interrupted, but hey, it's okay, they're making this baby.

So the child is born. God help them if they don't have insurance to pay for the medical costs. And maybe she keeps the baby. Maybe she gives it away. Either way she now has to worry about the father. Was the rapist convicted and sent to jail? Is the rapist still free? Never caught, unconvicted, or maybe the victim just didn't report it (many don't, for embarrassment, shame). Will the father now come after them, seeking the child? If he comes and wants to help raise the child, does he have a right? What if he wants to take the child? All these fears may swirl in the mother's head because she may not know. She may never know. He may come again one night.

Now if the mother decides to raise the child--unable to bear the thought of giving up that which came to them--say goodbye to any plans or dreams they may have been working on. A career? Further education? How much power this rapist had over them, to in one single act to violence to have completely changed their life.

And now this woman is your wife. Will you raise the child with her? Expect her to bear the pain of being reminded of the rape every day?

People are so easy to pass sweeping judgment over others. You haven't the right.




Adoption,,,
The child is not to blame.
rfenst Offline
#73 Posted:
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jackconrad wrote:
This question is offensive to any decent human being.


I am not offended by the question/issue.
Therefore, I am not a decent human being.
jackconrad Offline
#74 Posted:
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Your a Lawyer not a Human being !
teedubbya Offline
#75 Posted:
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djk wrote:

gov funded abortion mills........ We have killed an entire American generation.



WTF.... ahh nevermind.


Maybe we should force them to deliver into a government funded organ farm so we can save the baby boomers in need of parts!

obviously I keed. but hyperboly wins the day.
jig+pig Offline
#76 Posted:
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you people must be kidding me! i Thought this was a free Country?? it SHOULD be the right of the woman to have a CHOICE! I am blessed to have two beautiful young daughters that their mother and I CHOSE to have!!! i would like to think that my girls would make the same decision BUTTTTTT
i believe in their right to CHOOSE!
when a woman gets pregnant there is NO guaranty that embryo/ fetus will develope enough to be an actual living being after born! there are so many things that could happen that could result in a stilborn or miscarriage. sooooo, to say it is like killing a human being, well...........................

oh, for what it's worth, i'm a Christian also!
teedubbya Offline
#77 Posted:
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stem cell farms on ever corner. right accross from the medicinal pot stands and planned parenthood.

dogs and cats living together etc.

whatta world whatta world
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#78 Posted:
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DadZilla3


NOT SO MUCH INNER PEACE AS STUPID, SELFISH, AND WITHOUT ANY REDEEMING QUALITIES. I HAVE NO USE FOR ANYONE THAT WOULD NOT USE PROTECTION TO PREVENT CONCEPTION.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#79 Posted:
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jackconrad

I THOUGHT YOU WERE A POLITICIAN. THEY RANK ONE NOTCH ABOVE USED CAR SALESMAN.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#80 Posted:
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jackconrad 71

SHOULD THE RAPIST HAVE JOINT CUSTODY?

ON HIS WEEKEND WITH HIS CHILD, WHERE DO THEY VISIT. CAN HE TAKE THE CHILD TO A ZOO OR FOR ICE CREAM

HOW MUCH SHOULD HE PAY FOR CHILD SUPPORT.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT NEED A JUDGE TO DECIDE.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE THE JUDGE, SINCE YOU HAVE APPOINTED YOURSELF JUDGE OF ABORTION CAUSED BY RAPE.

WHAT ABOUT THE PEDOPHILES WHO RAPE CHILDREN THAT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONCEIVE. IF THE OFFSPRING IS FEMALE, DOES HE GET A FREE SHOT AT HER WHEN SHE IS 5..
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#81 Posted:
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tweoijfoi

PERHAPS YOU HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD.

PERFECTLY LOGICAL , WELL THOUGHT OUT IDEAS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE.

PREFERABLE ANSWERS COULD BE

YOU MADE A POOPIE

I AM NOT A RACIST, I JUST DON'T CARE FOR AN IDI AMIN AS MY PRESIDENT

HE IS A SOCIALIST.

YOU NEED MORE/LESS MEDS.

IMPEACH THE SERIAL KILLER OBAMA.


SINCE YOU ARE NEW TO THE BOARD, YOU ARE FORGIVEN, BUT IF IT HAP0PENS AGAIN,
YOU MIGHT BE BANNED.

teedubbya Offline
#82 Posted:
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organ farms are a growth industry
rfenst Offline
#83 Posted:
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Rick,

Your last two posts have been right on the money.
rfenst Offline
#84 Posted:
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The only right answer is:





SOILENT GREEN!!!
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#85 Posted:
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rfenst

THANK YOU
donutboy2000 Offline
#86 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
I am not offended by the question/issue.
Therefore, I am not a decent human being.



THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE BROTHER !
jig+pig Offline
#87 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
jackconrad

I THOUGHT YOU WERE A POLITICIAN. THEY RANK ONE NOTCH ABOVE USED CAR SALESMAN.

wait a minute!!!! i have a brother that's a car salesman, that's how he puts food on the table. believe me when I tell you that he's no politician!
tweoijfoi Offline
#88 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
tweoijfoi

PERHAPS YOU HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD THE PURPOSE OF THIS BOARD.

PERFECTLY LOGICAL , WELL THOUGHT OUT IDEAS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE.

SINCE YOU ARE NEW TO THE BOARD, YOU ARE FORGIVEN, BUT IF IT HAP0PENS AGAIN,
YOU MIGHT BE BANNED.



I'm sorry! Here let me try again... Drool

***Ignores arguments of opponents and declares they are wrong while making sweeping generalizations***

Women should have a choice! If you don't agree then you are stupid and hate women and also have unpaid backtaxes!!!!!!
Brewha Offline
#89 Posted:
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It is a fair point to argue when abortion becomes murder. To me It would be at the point the baby is viable – not an embryo or fetus – That’s pretty much what the law says.

But you have to laugh at how so many see the world through a foggy mix of voodoo bullsh1t and pure superstition.
Is “the morning after” pill murder? – of course not.
Is using a condom murder? – Your kidding right? Wait, let’s ask the invisible man in the sky if pulling out is a sin . . . .
Eight weeks into it, someone finds out they are pregnant and doesn’t want to carry it to term – end it. It just like a condom. Just watch out for the psychos and religious zealots who “know that it’s murder” because their particular “God” told them so. Those people are dangerous.
leonardo Offline
#90 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
It is a fair point to argue when abortion becomes murder. To me It would be at the point the baby is viable – not an embryo or fetus – That’s pretty much what the law says.

But you have to laugh at how so many see the world through a foggy mix of voodoo bullsh1t and pure superstition.
Is “the morning after” pill murder? – of course not.
Is using a condom murder? – Your kidding right? Wait, let’s ask the invisible man in the sky if pulling out is a sin . . . .
Eight weeks into it, someone finds out they are pregnant and doesn’t want to carry it to term – end it. It just like a condom. Just watch out for the psychos and religious zealots who “know that it’s murder” because their particular “God” told them so. Those people are dangerous.


Well, good that this issue is finally figured out. How could anyone, possibly, have an opinion that is different from yours?
wheelrite Offline
#91 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
It is a fair point to argue when abortion becomes murder. To me It would be at the point the baby is viable – not an embryo or fetus – That’s pretty much what the law says.

But you have to laugh at how so many see the world through a foggy mix of voodoo bullsh1t and pure superstition.
Is “the morning after” pill murder? – of course not.
Is using a condom murder? – Your kidding right? Wait, let’s ask the invisible man in the sky if pulling out is a sin . . . .
Eight weeks into it, someone finds out they are pregnant and doesn’t want to carry it to term – end it. It just like a condom. Just watch out for the psychos and religious zealots who “know that it’s murder” because their particular “God” told them so. Those people are dangerous.



So,hypotheticlly speaking,,

Which one of your children would you have been ok with aborting ? If you would've run short on rubbers ?


hypothetically...


wheel,
Brewha Offline
#92 Posted:
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leonardo wrote:
Well, good that this issue is finally figured out. How could anyone, possibly, have an opinion that is different from yours?


lots of people have different opinions. All I'm saying is some of them are down right foolish - at least to me.

Try and find one person on this forum that thinks their own opinion is wrong - I double dog dare you . . .
Brewha Offline
#93 Posted:
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wheelrite wrote:
So,hypotheticlly speaking,,

Which one of your children would you have been ok with aborting ? If you would've run short on rubbers ?


hypothetically...


wheel,


hypothetically... Ooh, Like using a Sci-Fi time machine? Wow, If I could go back in time, my kids would not be the first thing on my to-do list . . .

Really Wheel, You're quite the ladies man. How many children have you prevented by birth control device, rhythm, oral sex, masturbation, or even (god help us) abstinence?
Draw the line where you like, but we still are using the tools on hand to prevent a person from being created. Unless a person is created at the moment gleam in the eye occurs - and in that case you are a murderer if you don't do the young lady on the spot - and so is she if she doesn't let you . . . wait, I could be onto something here . . .

wheelrite Offline
#94 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
hypothetically... Ooh, Like using a Sci-Fi time machine? Wow, If I could go back in time, my kids would not be the first thing on my to-do list . . .

Really Wheel, You're quite the ladies man. How many children have you prevented by birth control device, rhythm, oral sex, masturbation, or even (god help us) abstinence?
Draw the line where you like, but we still are using the tools on hand to prevent a person from being created. Unless a person is created at the moment gleam in the eye occurs - and in that case you are a murderer if you don't do the young lady on the spot - and so is she if she doesn't let you . . . wait, I could be onto something here . . .


Bro,,

with all due respect...
Your posting seems convaluded..

I'm a catholic.Therefore we've never used any sort of birth control.

That being said,
Once conception takes place there is a life and ending that life is killing by definition.The casual manner in which abortion is sold to us is truly awful.They say it's a "Womens health issue"like pregnancy is an illness like catching a cold and can be cured.

The abortion industry (Planned Parenthood) is a scam began by Margaret Sanger to actually reduce the Negro population in America in the early 1900s.I believe 1000 years from we will be considered barbaric and primitive because our society accepts the casual killing of the yet to be born.I look at my children and believe they are a preciuos gift,not an inconvenience.


wheel,
kcrazeynate Offline
#95 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
???

would you want to discuss this with her, or your family, or your religious leader, or abide by Sharron Angle's position which might become the law of the land.


I say hell no but really i would leave it up to her but there would be no way I would play daddy....
Brewha Offline
#96 Posted:
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wheelrite wrote:
Bro,,

with all due respect...
Your posting seems convaluded..

I'm a catholic.Therefore we've never used any sort of birth control.

That being said,
Once conception takes place there is a life and ending that life is killing by definition.The casual manner in which abortion is sold to us is truly awful.They say it's a "Womens health issue"like pregnancy is an illness like catching a cold and can be cured.

The abortion industry (Planned Parenthood) is a scam began by Margaret Sanger to actually reduce the Negro population in America in the early 1900s.I believe 1000 years from we will be considered barbaric and primitive because our society accepts the casual killing of the yet to be born.I look at my children and believe they are a preciuos gift,not an inconvenience.


wheel,


Well, I had a lot of brevity for the subject matter I covered in that post. My bad. The point was that where I draw the line on when a life is created is different then you. In fact, I think there are a lot of ideas about this . . .

I can try to respect your views, but I cannot agree with them. The morning after pill that flushes a freshly fertilized egg is not murder. And telling a woman that she must carry any pregnancy to term because it suits someone else’s moral views is wrong.

Now, you may consider the morning after pill murder. That would be your right. Everyone in fact, gets to have their own views. The real issue is what the common consensus happen to be.
wheelrite Offline
#97 Posted:
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Brewha wrote:
Well, I had a lot of brevity for the subject matter I covered in that post. My bad. The point was that where I draw the line on when a life is created is different then you. In fact, I think there are a lot of ideas about this . . .

I can try to respect your views, but I cannot agree with them. The morning after pill that flushes a freshly fertilized egg is not murder. And telling a woman that she must carry any pregnancy to term because it suits someone else’s moral views is wrong.

Now, you may consider the morning after pill murder. That would be your right. Everyone in fact, gets to have their own views. The real issue is what the common consensus happen to be.


As history shows,consensus is often incorrect and immoral.
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#98 Posted:
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I'd say the common consensus SHOULD be that touching little boys is wrong. However the Catholic Church would disagree with me. Pretty much tells me all I need to know about Catholic common consensus. So following at least THAT Church's doctrine is already flawed in my opinion. I disagree with abortion. I don't like the idea of it at all. But I certainly won't let a state sponsored religion make up my morals for me.
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#99 Posted:
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dsmokers wrote:
I'd say the common consensus SHOULD be that touching little boys is wrong. However the Catholic Church would disagree with me. Pretty much tells me all I need to know about Catholic common consensus. So following at least THAT Church's doctrine is already flawed in my opinion. I disagree with abortion. I don't like the idea of it at all. But I certainly won't let a state sponsored religion make up my morals for me.



you're a moron...
dsmokers Offline
#100 Posted:
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Posts: 569
Why Wheel? If you disagree with my post explain why? What is it about my post that makes you say what you did?
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