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PA Abortionist killed babies with Scissors
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DadZilla3 Offline
#51 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2011, 6:32 PM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
Forget the circumstances for a minute and concentrate on the physical act itself. The physical act of strapping a person into a chair and injecting them with a drug that stops their heart. The physical act of putting a person inside a gas chamber and gassing them. It is the premeditated ending of a person's life with forethought and intent. It is murder.

You cannot forget the circumstances in my opinion. That is at the heart of the matter. There is a vast difference when person being put to death is an innocent unborn child on the one hand, or a person convicted by a jury of his or her peers of a crime so heinous that they've received the death penalty on the other.
Kawak Offline
#52 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2011, 6:32 PM EST
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Are scissors covered under Obama care? Think
dpnewell Offline
#53 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2011, 6:51 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Like what? His own admission or confession? Video? His own medical records? An aborted baby that they performed an autopsy on?.


Bingo! The idiot kept the remains of some of the late term babies in a freezer. Seems from the remains, the prosecution can prove 8, though they expect he murdered hundreds more. This investigation has been going on for almost a year, so the prosecution probably has all the proof they need.

Heard another sick part of this today on local Philly news. One of his assistants who has also been charged with murder had one of these babies she was trying to abort born alive. According to the news, she played with the live baby for 20 minutes, and then sliced it's throat. Can't even image such a thing. Hope it's not true.
daveincincy Offline
#54 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2011, 9:25 PM EST
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borndead1 wrote:

Forget the circumstances for a minute and concentrate on the physical act itself. The physical act of strapping a person into a chair and injecting them with a drug that stops their heart. The physical act of putting a person inside a gas chamber and gassing them. It is the premeditated ending of a person's life with forethought and intent. It is murder. And it is a right I do not believe the government should have.


I'm sure there are a few citizens that would be up for taking that job over for the government.


borndead1 wrote:
P.S. This discussion has been very civil so far. Let's not ruin it, guys. These types of discussions need to take place.


Screw you! Dancing


Kawak wrote:
Are scissors covered under Obama care? Think


Yes, but only with a note of medical necessity from a doctor.
jguthner Offline
#55 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2011, 9:59 PM EST
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I'm not too smart on all this legal mumbo-jumbo, but the 300-page Grand Jury report seems like some pretty good "evidence" to me. Sure, a lot of it is just accusations, but there's testimony in there from medical professionals, autopsy results, and the toughest for me to swallow: photographs.

As a parent, it took me several hours and multiple sittings to make it through the entire thing...pretty rough stuff. If you care to read it:

http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/grandJury_WomensMedical.html

Also an interesting point that seems to have resulted in almost no conversation here or otherwise: This whole thing was kicked off by the death/murder of a patient of his after receiving unregulated drugs during a procedure...for which there IS proof (medical & first responders to the clinic). I know the abortion angle is much more "glamorous" and newsworthy, but it looks fairly probable that he will go down, if only for that offense alone.
tailgater Offline
#56 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2011, 11:30 PM EST
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borndead1 wrote:
What about the dozens of innocent people that have been put to death?

Forget the circumstances for a minute and concentrate on the physical act itself. The physical act of strapping a person into a chair and injecting them with a drug that stops their heart. The physical act of putting a person inside a gas chamber and gassing them. It is the premeditated ending of a person's life with forethought and intent. It is murder. And it is a right I do not believe the government should have. There are very few rights and powers I think government should have, but that's another debate.


P.S. This discussion has been very civil so far. Let's not ruin it, guys. These types of discussions need to take place.




Makes perfect sense.
Except that you're making Dadzilla's point about the "Degree of difference".
You speak of "dozens" of innocent people.
But how many tens of thousands (probably higher) have been aborted?.
And EVERY ONE OF THEM was innocent.

It's like comparing a bullet to a nuclear warhead. Sure, they both can kill. But be realistic.

As for the physical act of killing a person? Ask a cop from a decent sized metropolis if he'd be OK with flipping the switch.
When you see the vile acts that the death row inmates have committed it eases the conflict that many of us would fear.

Besides, you have no say in this matter.
With a name like borndead you're obviously biased!
tailgater Offline
#57 Posted: Thu, Jan 20 2011, 11:36 PM EST
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In all honesty, if the murder of child was proven to be true with iron clad evidence, I would sing and dance while I killed the bugger who did it.

I'd do an Irish Jig while injecting the poison.
Or sing zip-a-dee-do-da while zapping his sorry ass with 100k Volts.

Then I'd do it again just to make sure.

And yes.
I'm serious.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#58 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 8:45 AM EST
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Scissors...vacuums...whatever it takes right?

Scotch?
Whistlebritches Offline
#59 Posted: Sat, Jan 22 2011, 10:54 AM EST
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tailgater wrote:
In all honesty, if the murder of child was proven to be true with iron clad evidence, I would sing and dance while I killed the bugger who did it.

I'd do an Irish Jig while injecting the poison.
Or sing zip-a-dee-do-da while zapping his sorry ass with 100k Volts.

Then I'd do it again just to make sure.

And yes.
I'm serious.




All this and a Patriots fan.....I like you.

We need to have a big party and sever the abortionist spinal cord with a cheap pair of dull scissors.

Ron
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