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Whistlebritches Offline
#1 Posted: Fri, Apr 8 2011, 9:38 PM EST
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Should we taxpayers fund this slaughterhouse??????


I say not only no but HELL NO!!!!!!!!! If this is such an important organization let the libs support it with their charity dollars.Oh I forgot they don't give to charities.................................thats why they want US taxpayers to support it.


What say you.


Ron
Gene363 Offline
#2 Posted: Fri, Apr 8 2011, 9:42 PM EST
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They only feel good about doing good with your money.
ZRX1200 Offline
#3 Posted: Fri, Apr 8 2011, 9:51 PM EST
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My mom and grandma are active with these nuts. Fun conversations indeed.....
They should receive no federal money. If states choose to whatever, I'm tired of the fed taking up causes with my money. They make millions as it is destroying primarily black families and work hard on the others. Even pro murder (abortion) people who are reasonable should support them self funding.
How often are these medically necessary? 1 in a million? How often is it used as birth control?
jackconrad Offline
#4 Posted: Fri, Apr 8 2011, 10:45 PM EST
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Planned Parenthood(0(0)
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(")(") = Wack Jobbbers
dpnewell Offline
#5 Posted: Fri, Apr 8 2011, 11:14 PM EST
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Planned Parenthood was started to keep minorities, the poor, and other “undesirables” from over breeding. Racism at it's very worse. Of course their supporters like to hide this little tidbit of history.
rfenst Offline
#6 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 7:55 AM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Planned Parenthood was started to keep minorities, the poor, and other “undesirables” from over breeding. Racism at it's very worse. Of course their supporters like to hide this little tidbit of history.


Care to share a credible citation to your assertion?
rfenst Offline
#7 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 8:02 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
My mom and grandma are active with these nuts. Fun conversations indeed.....
They should receive no federal money. If states choose to whatever, I'm tired of the fed taking up causes with my money. They make millions as it is destroying primarily black families and work hard on the others. Even pro murder (abortion) people who are reasonable should support them self funding.
How often are these medically necessary? 1 in a million? How often is it used as birth control?


I am pro-choice, but agree that tax dollars shouldn't go towards abortion out of respect for the opinions of those who oppose it, rather than a federalism-type issue.
HockeyDad Offline
#8 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 8:09 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Care to share a credible citation to your assertion?



Planned Parenthood and its eugenics origin. Pretty easy google search.
tailgater Offline
#9 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 8:26 AM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Planned Parenthood was started to keep minorities, the poor, and other “undesirables” from over breeding. Racism at it's very worse. Of course their supporters like to hide this little tidbit of history.


Few people despise PP as strongly as I do.
Not only because of what they do, but because of their deceiption that allows them to operate as they do.

But I find it hard to accept this premise of racism as its core from inception.

Please support.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#10 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 9:45 AM EST
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RON, I SAY ARE RUNNING YOUR MOUTH AND DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA
WHAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD DOES..
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#11 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 9:49 AM EST
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dpnewell

A PREVIOUS POSTER WAS MORE PO;ITE THAN I COULD EVER BE. RE YOU POST AS TO WHY THERE IS A PLANNED PARENTHOOD, YOU ARE FULL OF C R A P.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#12 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 9:52 AM EST
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tailgater

THEY WILL GIVE YOU A FREE PROSTATE EXAM AND ADVICE YOU OF YOUR OPTIONS
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS.
topper7788 Offline
#13 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 10:27 AM EST
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Oh, this thread should stir a well thoughtbout debate!!!!!!Sarcasm

wheelrite Offline
#14 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 10:27 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Care to share a credible citation to your assertion?


Robert,,

Sadly you are ignorant to the beginings of Planned Parenthood..

Google Margaret Sanger..
dpnewell Offline
#15 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 10:47 AM EST
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Rick,
You are so blind and deluded, that at times I feel pity for you. Any source I post, you will claim to be right wing propaganda.

All you doubters, do a search on Margaret Sangler and racism, and you will get thousands of hits. She was a avid supporter of eugenics and euthanasia, especially for the "black and yellow peril".

I just glanced through one of her books, The Pivot of Civilization, free online. She speaks on how we need to prevent the "feebleminded" from reproducing. Except, if you read her book through, you will find out that she considers most of society "feebleminded". She also claims that "normal" folk have small families, while the "feebleminded" have large families, and therefore, if not stopped, the "feebleminded" will overtake society. Who historically has had large families? Minorities and the religious, so I guess they are the ones, in her mind, that need to be controlled. She also likes to talk about Karl Marx a lot, so Rick will probably love her.
HockeyDad Offline
#16 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 10:52 AM EST
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I am shocked that this little tidbit of Planned Parenthood history appears to not be more widely known.

I am almost to the point of needing to feign outrage.
wheelrite Offline
#17 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 11:07 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
I am pro-choice, but agree that tax dollars shouldn't go towards abortion out of respect for the opinions of those who oppose it, rather than a federalism-type issue.


" Pro Choice"
is nice way to say I condone killing babies..
ZRX1200 Offline
#18 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 11:13 AM EST
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Robert, if you don't mind me asking. What is your feeling on the death penalty?
This interests me with people that are "pro-choice".
wheelrite Offline
#19 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 11:28 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Robert, if you don't mind me asking. What is your feeling on the death penalty?
This interests me with people that are "pro-choice".


don't know about Robert..

but,I'm anti death penalty
elk hunter Offline
#20 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 11:41 AM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Robert, if you don't mind me asking. What is your feeling on the death penalty?
This interests me with people that are "pro-choice".



I am anti abortion and pro death penalty however, it is not my right to tell someone what they can or cannot do...

I guess that would make me pro choice???


As to Federal dollars going to abortion? The way they get around that issue, is to do a lot of fund raising to pay for the acts of murder, thus freeing up the general fund for the every day runnings of PP...

Let's be honest here, Federal dollars are funding abortions... whether they pay out of the general fund or fund raising money, the organization is performing abortions... They would NOT be able to stay afloat without our money...
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#21 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 2:43 PM EST
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I LOOK FORWARD TO GOOGLING

Planned Parenthood and its eugenics origin.

Margaret Sanger.

The Pivot of Civilization

so much to learn, so little time
Gene363 Offline
#22 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 3:04 PM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
I am shocked that this little tidbit of Planned Parenthood history appears to not be more widely known.

I am almost to the point of needing to feign outrage.


Pseudo outrage???
fiddler898 Offline
#23 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 4:05 PM EST
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And whenever I need a vacation from reality I come straight to the politics Board. How refreshing!
HockeyDad Offline
#24 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 4:34 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
And whenever I need a vacation from reality I come straight to the politics Board. How refreshing!



It beats getting aborted at Planned Parenthood!

See, glass half full.
ZRX1200 Offline
#25 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 4:42 PM EST
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Yeah Fiddler, if you can't stand the heat get outta the womb. And pray there's no scissors there.
fiddler898 Offline
#26 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 4:57 PM EST
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Thank you for making my point.
HockeyDad Offline
#27 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 5:10 PM EST
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Told you so.
gimbel Offline
#28 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 7:11 PM EST
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In the case of rape or known birth defect, leave the option open to the expectant parent(s). But do not fund it with government dollars. The rest of PP's services and education are valuable to thousands of people and should not be taken away.

As to the death penalty. If a person, in their right mind, commits a crime as terrible as taking another person's life, by all means line them up against a wall and pull the trigger.
rfenst Offline
#29 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 7:36 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
Robert,,

Sadly you are ignorant to the beginings of Planned Parenthood..

Google Margaret Sanger..



Yes, I was ignorant, having never heard of her before. So, I just Googled Her, Planed Parenthood, and the two organizations that became Planned Parenthood. Some of her thoughts, speeches and writings are shocking. I would never support those things. But I am still pro-choice.
rfenst Offline
#30 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 7:55 PM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Planned Parenthood was started to keep minorities, the poor, and other “undesirables” from over breeding. Racism at it's very worse. Of course their supporters like to hide this little tidbit of history.


Margret Sanger, who was a/the primary founders of PP, had some views that shock my conscience. That doesn't mean that those who currently support PP have the same views as her. I was unaware of her until a few minutes ago. I wasn't hiding anything.
rfenst Offline
#31 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 9:13 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
tTHEY WILL GIVE YOU A FREE PROSTATE EXAM AND ADVICE YOU OF YOUR OPTIONS
IF YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEMS.



Not directed towards Tailgater: Rick. That is, perhaps, your funniest post I have ever read.
rfenst Offline
#32 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 9:16 PM EST
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Robert, if you don't mind me asking. What is your feeling on the death penalty?
This interests me with people that are "pro-choice".



OK, I will take the bait: I support the death penalty without any regret.
rfenst Offline
#33 Posted: Sat, Apr 9 2011, 9:21 PM EST
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fiddler898 wrote:
And whenever I need a vacation from reality I come straight to the politics Board. How refreshing!


You know, it's a vacation to another dimension...
dpnewell Offline
#34 Posted: Sun, Apr 10 2011, 7:17 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Margret Sanger, who was a/the primary founders of PP, had some views that shock my conscience. That doesn't mean that those who currently support PP have the same views as her. I was unaware of her until a few minutes ago. I wasn't hiding anything.



Ok, I'll give you that, as it doesn't mean PP currently holds those views. BTW, in her book she also refers to Hitler's views on eugenics, and though disturbed by his mass slaughters, finds value in his basic premise. This lady was a wack case.
rfenst Offline
#35 Posted: Sun, Apr 10 2011, 7:42 AM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Ok, I'll give you that, as it doesn't mean PP currently holds those views. BTW, in her book she also refers to Hitler's views on eugenics, and though disturbed by his mass slaughters, finds value in his basic premise. This lady was a wack case.



Absolutely no doubt at all that she was a repulsive whack-job. Notwithstanding this, that doesn't make every notion she conjured or idea she implemented is automatically bad.
ZRX1200 Offline
#36 Posted: Sun, Apr 10 2011, 9:27 AM EST
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Wasn't bait bro, really was just curious!
bloody spaniard Offline
#37 Posted: Sun, Apr 10 2011, 11:24 AM EST
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dpnewell wrote:
Planned Parenthood was started to keep minorities, the poor, and other “undesirables” from over breeding. Racism at it's very worse. Of course their supporters like to hide this little tidbit of history.



(perfectly encapsulated IMO)

Of course, there are closet racists & self- haters who are relieved at the idea that were it not for their Planned Parenthood there would probably be 50% more minorities.
Whistlebritches Offline
#38 Posted: Sun, Apr 10 2011, 6:06 PM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
RON, I SAY ARE RUNNING YOUR MOUTH AND DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA
WHAT PLANNED PARENTHOOD DOES..


RICKAMAVEN wrote:
I LOOK FORWARD TO GOOGLING

Planned Parenthood and its eugenics origin.

Margaret Sanger.

The Pivot of Civilization

so much to learn, so little time



So I guess this proves you're only a maven in your own mind.................Kind of like a "LEGEND" we once had around here.

We all know what PP does Rick.........and IMHO the bad outweighs the good.You want to support these cold hearted murdering basstards,do it out of your own pocket.

My suspicions are that most of these left wing organizations would dissolve rapidly if left to be funded solely by their supporters.


Ron
Kawak Offline
#39 Posted: Sun, Apr 10 2011, 9:40 PM EST
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Can someone send grampa maven instructions on how to reply to multiple people in a single post so we can scroll less.
jpotts Offline
#40 Posted: Mon, Apr 11 2011, 6:26 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
Margret Sanger, who was a/the primary founders of PP, had some views that shock my conscience. That doesn't mean that those who currently support PP have the same views as her. I was unaware of her until a few minutes ago. I wasn't hiding anything.


I dunno. If the tree is poisonous to its roots, odds are the fruit of that tree will be just as deadly.

The whole point of personal responsibility is that you are less inclined to dance upon the strings of puppeteers with hidden agendas.

Then again, a rubber - or, heaven forbid, keeping your legs crossed - is a far cheaper alternative all around.

The whole point of mass-abortions in the first place is population control. Do you honestly think that the millions of abortions performed each year has anything to do with rape, incest, or the life of the mother? The vast majority of them come as a consequence of people avoiding their responsibility. And it is those very same "irresponsible" people that Planned Parenthood wants to "help."

You might want to take a good look at the people that Planned Parenthood has targeted for their "assistence."

As the saying goes: actions speak louder than words.
Stinkdyr Offline
#41 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 7:12 AM EST
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End Welfare Breeding.


It is an unsustainable farce.
rfenst Offline
#42 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 7:36 AM EST
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Stinkdyr wrote:
End Welfare Breeding.


It is an unsustainable farce.




How, sterilization?
Stinkdyr Offline
#43 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 7:40 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
How, sterilization?



Sure that would work.

If you are so pathetic that you need to go on welfare, then part of the deal is that you be sterilized ... this can be temporary with Norplant or whatever. We sure as hell don't need you breeding more mouths to feed to aggravate global warming if you can't even feed yourself.

Herfing
HockeyDad Offline
#44 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 9:30 AM EST
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rfenst wrote:
How, sterilization?




Planned Parenthood offers that service.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#45 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 10:10 AM EST
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jpotts wrote:
I dunno. If the tree is poisonous to its roots, odds are the fruit of that tree will be just as deadly.

The whole point of personal responsibility is that you are less inclined to dance upon the strings of puppeteers with hidden agendas.

Then again, a rubber - or, heaven forbid, keeping your legs crossed - is a far cheaper alternative all around.

The whole point of mass-abortions in the first place is population control. Do you honestly think that the millions of abortions performed each year has anything to do with rape, incest, or the life of the mother? The vast majority of them come as a consequence of people avoiding their responsibility. And it is those very same "irresponsible" people that Planned Parenthood wants to "help."

You might want to take a good look at the people that Planned Parenthood has targeted for their "assistence."

As the saying goes: actions speak louder than words.




Applause

Loved the analogy!
bloody spaniard Offline
#46 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 10:22 AM EST
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Absolutely. The problem is, Planned Parenthood doesn't think much of people in general. We're to be counseled and treated as if we were no better than animals in a pen with unwanted pregnancies caused by uncontrolled base desires. In fact, I warrant that those hypocrites have more love & compassion for baby seals than they do for the human unborn.

I used to work with those criminals until I researched them & their founder. They can have their abomination funded by those like- minded in the private sector. I was also once "pro-choice".
DrMaddVibe Offline
#47 Posted: Tue, Apr 12 2011, 10:28 AM EST
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Meeting Terry Randall opened my eyes to the kill mills that taxpayers fund. Then he helped create Operation Rescue.

If you're on the same side as something as insidious as a belief that Hitler and his Nazi party held then that should tell you all you need to know.

Then to have it perverted as a "choice", is an affront to anyone with an IQ above 10!

If having an abortion is such a great thing then why aren't they giving them away with Happy Meals?Frying pan
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#48 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2011, 2:44 PM EST
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wheelrite wrote:
" Pro Choice"
is nice way to say I condone killing babies..




here we go again." ignorence is bliss"

i believe in PRO CHOICE! I chose to have my daughters!

it's a sad fact.....if we do away with govt assistance with this, there will be DEAD mothers all over the country due to trying have an abortion in some underground place!

tell me wheel....would you like to see your daughter in some shady back alley doctors office if she "made a mistake" in the middle of the night and needed to "take care of it? afterall, we are HUMAN and humans DO make "mistakes"!



that's what I thought.....
jig+pig Offline
#49 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2011, 2:51 PM EST
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jpotts wrote:
I dunno. If the tree is poisonous to its roots, odds are the fruit of that tree will be just as deadly.

The whole point of personal responsibility is that you are less inclined to dance upon the strings of puppeteers with hidden agendas.

Then again, a rubber - or, heaven forbid, keeping your legs crossed - is a far cheaper alternative all around.

The whole point of mass-abortions in the first place is population control. Do you honestly think that the millions of abortions performed each year has anything to do with rape, incest, or the life of the mother? The vast majority of them come as a consequence of people avoiding their responsibility. And it is those very same "irresponsible" people that Planned Parenthood wants to "help."

You might want to take a good look at the people that Planned Parenthood has targeted for their "assistence."

As the saying goes: actions speak louder than words.



huh?
ZRX1200 Offline
#50 Posted: Wed, Apr 13 2011, 2:58 PM EST
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DMV Dems are trying to make happy meals illegal so I don't think that analogy works!
Jig+pig, you really believe that? And a child is NEVER a mistake. Being unprepared for parenthood and not protecting against it and STD's is the mistake. I don't personally want abortions to be completely illegal, but what is encouraged and currently accepted is deplorable. There is nothing wrong with adoption.
Also there was a christian group that was offering free prenatal visits and sonograms to pregnant mothers. The idea was for the mother to hear the heartbeat and see the baby. Planned parenthood threw a fit over this.
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