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Westboro Baptist Church Goes To Mississippi – And Loses
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This is how we handle these morons in MY town!







Westboro Baptist Church Goes To Mississippi – And Loses
Posted by: MacAoidh on Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 0:24
Tagged with: Military/Security Westboro Baptist Church
On Saturday USMC Staff Sgt. Jason Rogers, who was killed in action in Afghanistan April 7, was buried in Brandon, Mississippi.
That, by itself, is a sadly unremarkable – though certainly noteworthy and solemn – occasion for us to mark.
And in fact when Sgt. Rogers’ body returned to Brandon it was greeted by hundreds, or perhaps even thousands, of well-wishers who gathered at the roadside to honor the fallen American hero. The dashboard camera from Mississippi state trooper Elmo Townsend’s cruiser gives an indication of the scene last Thursday.

What is most notable about Sgt. Rogers’ funeral in Brandon, however, is what didn’t happen.
You see, the troglodytes from Westboro Baptist Church had threatened to spew their poison at Sgt. Rogers’ funeral.
But the Westboro mob wasn’t on the scene, and Sgt. Rogers was laid to rest without incident – thank God.
Why weren’t there protestors?
Planning ahead by the locals, as it turns out.


From an Ole Miss sports message board, a tidbit of information…

A couple of days before, one of them (Westboro protestors) ran his mouth at a Brandon gas station and got his arse waxed. Police were called and the beaten man could not give much of a description of who beat him. When they canvassed the station and spoke to the large crowd that had gathered around, no one seemed to remember anything about what had happened.
Rankin County handled this thing perfectly. There were many things that were put into place that most will never know about and at great expense to the county.
Most of the morons never made it out of their hotel parking lot. It seems that certain Rankin county pickup trucks were parked directly behind any car that had Kansas plates in the hotel parking lot and the drivers mysteriously disappeared until after the funeral was over. Police were called but their wrecker service was running behind and it was going to be a few hours before they could tow the trucks so the Kansas plated cars could get out.
A few made it to the funeral but were ushered away to be questioned about a crime they might have possibly been involved in. Turns out, after a few hours of questioning, that they were not involved and they were allowed to go on about their business.
Fred Phelps, the disbarred lawyer and Democrat activist who leads the Westboro congregation, will undoubtedly pursue some form of legal action for the way his people were thwarted in Brandon. Let him try. There isn’t a jury in Mississippi which will see things his way.
This is a template for how to handle the Westboro people. If lawsuits don’t work, other means will. Whatever it takes to keep them from harassing bereaved military families on the day their fallen loved ones are laid to rest.


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I find these wackjobs detestable, and applaud the result.

However, municipal officials systemically looking the other way for certain issues?
Not cool.

This is different than a beat cop using judgement and deciding to give a warning, etc.
Stuff like this was how and why racism managed to linger on for so long.
Again, best possible cause for which to pull this kinda thing, but this is gonna leave a mark on a lot of officials involved.

Woulda been much more appropriate to just find a bunch of volunteers willing to live with a simple assult/battery conviction and pay a smaal fine and day or two in jail.

If they face an ACTUAL beatdown from a few concerned individuals everywhere they try to dishonor a fallen hero (and IMHO they dishonor God as well), how long do you think they'll stick with it?

But it's gotta be individuals, who then must actually answer to authorities, rather than any official.
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Would a New Law Stop Military Funeral Protesters?
By Shannon Bream

Published April 20, 2011

The Westboro Baptist Church, based in Topeka, Kansas, has succeeded in attracting plenty of attention by holding prominent protests at the funerals of fallen U.S. military soldiers and Marines.

In March, they scored a big legal victory when the Supreme Court decided in an eight to one ruling that the First Amendment protects Westboro members, and that their speech cannot be restricted simply because “it is upsetting or arouses contempt.”

Now a bipartisan coalition of U.S. Senators is stepping into the fray, proposing legislation that will set boundaries for those seeking to disrupt military funerals.

The SERVE Act would ban disruptive noise for a period of two hours before and after the funeral, and create a 300 foot buffer around the funeral services.

“Families of military servicemen and women should have the right, the ability to lay their loved ones to rest with dignity and peace,” Senator Marco Rubio, R-Fla., one of the bill’s sponsors says. Rubio predicts swift passage of the measure, adding, “I can’t imagine anyone being against it, at least no one in their right mind.”

Margie Phelps is the daughter of Westboro’s pastor Fred Phelps, and she successfully argued the group’s case before the Supreme Court. She says the legislation is completely off base.

When asked for her reaction to the proposed legislation, Phelps told Fox News, “These pandering perverts have no respect for the laws of man or God.”

Phelps also questions the validity of the law, calling it “grossly out of bounds of the Constitution.”

“I don’t know who the lawyers are advising these senators on this, but they need to be fired for incompetence,” Phelps said.

Arizona State University Professor Joseph Russomanno has talked with members of the Phelps family, and believes that in the wake of their Supreme Court victory, they are more emboldened than ever. He doubts the legislation, if it becomes law, will impact Westboro’s demonstrations.

“They believe they’ve been chosen to perform this particular mission, and I don’t see how they think that anything is going to stop them from doing that,” he said.

Russomanno also believes Westboro may have grounds for a legal challenge, should the church decide to sue over the buffers and noise restrictions.

“I think it’s entirely possible,” Russomanno says. “Having looked through the law I can see where they may find some places within it that are ripe for challenge.”

The House of Representatives will consider a similar measure.

Drafters of the bills believe they are narrowly tailored enough to meet constitutional scrutiny. But Phelps questions why the Senate is investing its time in this particular measure at all.

“Maybe next they can pass a law abolishing hell,” she said.

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In this case it was handled PERFECTLY!

When COMMON SENSE can be restored instead of mamby pamby lawyerspeak to solve issues then and ONLY then can America get off her knees!
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In this case it was handled PERFECTLY!

When COMMON SENSE can be restored instead of mamby pamby lawyerspeak to solve issues then and ONLY then can America get off her knees!







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Split them in TWO !!
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These people are evil f'rs. Wish there was a hell so these idiots could burn there.
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There is a Hell , hold on you'll see it soon enough ! ^^
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jackconrad wrote:
There is a Hell , hold on you'll see it soon enough ! ^^



YOU ever make a successful batch of Snickerdoodles? Tell 'em Fuzz...They're a BITCH! I only grade them and eat them though. I'm finicky about MY Snickerdoodles.

I only eat the ones that are made with the dough rolled between the breasts of mid 20 year old Danish virgin women.

They're out of this world!

They'll make you see CROS AND crop circles they're THAT damn good!!!!Frying pan
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Nuke Topeka!

Sure some aircraft might have to deviate from the flight plans but that should only add maybe 10 minutes to their trips.
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**** Topeka!

Sure some aircraft might have to deviate from the flight plans but that should only add maybe 10 minutes to their trips.



Ahem...when you use words that have some sort of a kind of nature to create a loud sound and perhaps damage to buildings or people then you have to use the appropriate code/buzz word.

In this case, so as to avoid any detection with the fine folks that happen to work for the King of Queens but with an added 100 lbs or those monitoring the Matrix with Operation Raptor the correct codeword is

CROP CIRCLE

So, we're going to "crop circle" Topeka...got it?


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Always knew I liked it down in Mississippi!
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fishinguitarman wrote:
This is how we handle these morons in MY town!


A couple of days before, one of them (Westboro protestors) ran his mouth at a Brandon gas station and got his arse waxed. Police were called and the beaten man could not give much of a description of who beat him. When they canvassed the station and spoke to the large crowd that had gathered around, no one seemed to remember anything about what had happened.


Much as I detest everything that these whack jobs stand for, this is too much. Way too far.

So, would it be ok to beat half to death anyone that espoused an unpopular opinion about abortion?

Is it ok for high school kids to beat up a kid that they don't like?

no - no - no - a thousand times no.....

Me personally, I think that drag queens should show up and have sex right in front of their protests - big burly bull dykes should have a friggin love fest right at the border of whatever area the westboro folks are set up in.

Porn actresses in minidresses and heels and mini-micro-teeny-tiny halter tops should show up and parade in front of them - no wait - those actresses should give a private preview to me in my living room first.
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From the OP

"Fred Phelps, the disbarred lawyer and Democrat activist "

LOL
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teedubbya wrote:
From the OP

"Fred Phelps, the disbarred lawyer and Democrat activist "

LOL



I know, I saw that. Didn't even want to bring up that absurdity. Hell, even saying 'Democrat activist' instead of 'Democratic activist' shows the bias.
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richokeeffe wrote:
Much as I detest everything that these whack jobs stand for, this is too much. Way too far.

So, would it be ok to beat half to death anyone that espoused an unpopular opinion about abortion?

Is it ok for high school kids to beat up a kid that they don't like?

no - no - no - a thousand times no.....

Me personally, I think that drag queens should show up and have sex right in front of their protests - big burly bull dykes should have a friggin love fest right at the border of whatever area the westboro folks are set up in.

Porn actresses in minidresses and heels and mini-micro-teeny-tiny halter tops should show up and parade in front of them - no wait - those actresses should give a private preview to me in my living room first.


/applaud

I like the way you think. Sorry if that means you may get lumped in with me on the hated train. ;)
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So this guy rolls in and runs his mouth...we don't know what he said. Did he try to pick the fight himself???

Did he provoke it??? Was he full of piss and vinegar and let his mouth overload his ass????? I'm guessing yes...

If so...he deserved to get his ass WHIPPED! If not then, yeah....it's too much.



Rich, I know where you're coming from, but think about it......
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FuzzNJ wrote:
/applaud

I like the way you think. Sorry if that means you may get lumped in with me on the hated train. ;)




Nobody HATES you Fuzz....You're a very intellegent guy....You're just radically left....most here are prolly just the opposite......but seriously....you NEVER concede a point. You only defend....you never give in....I can't ever remember you saying..."My bad...I was wrong on that..."....maybe I'M wrong but I just don't recall that....
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Nobody HATES you Fuzz....You're a very intellegent guy....You're just radically left....most here are prolly just the opposite......but seriously....you NEVER concede a point. You only defend....you never give in....I can't ever remember you saying..."My bad...I was wrong on that..."....maybe I'M wrong but I just don't recall that....


Said it twice in the last day or two actually.

And why should I not stand my ground? When does anyone here concede a point, even when given evidence? Same thing. I'm not what people call a 'limp wristed liberal', whatever that is. The characterizations of me on this board make me sound like I'm some tiny wimp who's wife bosses him around and probably cries half the day. Nothing could be further from the truth. But, whatcha gonna do? So you're right, I'm not going to back down from what I think is right, moral and just, not gonna happen.
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FuzzNJ wrote:


The characterizations of me on this board make me sound like I'm some tiny wimp who's wife bosses him around and probably cries half the day. Nothing could be further from the truth.


Okay, so you cry three quarters of the day, our bad!
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Okay, so you cry three quarters of the day, our bad!


/cry you're right. You left today without so much as a kiss on the cheek. Next time please remember your safe word. I apologize for beating you so bad, but you were a bad, bad boy.
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^What in the world are you talking about?
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robertknyc wrote:
^What in the world are you talking about?


Right, sorry. Shh, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Say no more!
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22. Author: FuzzNJ Date: 02/08/2010  02:32 PM Reply   
19: I’m just barely smart enough to realize how stupid I am. 

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RIP Staff Sgt. Jason Rogers

Well done Rankin County and Mississippi.
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Parking trucks behind their vehicles was a brilliant idea.

Beating one of their members up? NOT a good idea. It only justifies their perceived "persecution", and in their sick minds, validates their beliefs.
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The way I see this both citizens and the government interfered with their First Amendment rights, despite a recent ruling that clarifies how those rights may be exercised. In my opinion, anyone who supports what this town did has established a precedent that will erode the First Amendment if not brought to a halt. Now, Westboro will probably sue the hell out of the town and collect money to further their ugly message. Great job. Everybody, but Westboro looses. the only thing worse would have been altercation and/or violence.
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rfenst wrote:
The way I see this both citizens and the government interfered with their First Amendment rights, despite a recent ruling that clarifies how those rights may be exercised. In my opinion, anyone who supports what this town did has established a precedent that will erode the First Amendment if not brought to a halt. Now, Westboro will probably sue the hell out of the town and collect money to further their ugly message. Great job. Everybody, but Westboro looses. the only thing worse would have been altercation and/or violence.



I don't see it that way.
Based on the information from the OP, the town may have covered themeselves well enough to prevent a lawsuit.
Consider the issues:
1. The guy got beat up. No witnesses. Who do you blame?
2. Vehicles parked so as to block their cars. The cops didn't refuse to act. The response simply took longer than expected.
3. Several were held in connection to a crime. Let's assume that the cops will be smart enough to cook the books to make this a fact. And these people were strangers to the town and therefore could easily be confused for someone else.

You can ASSUME the roadblocks, both literal and figurative, were purposeful. But to prove it in a court of law??


Our first ammendment rights are near and dear to us. But when someone compares the rights of these freaks to the plight of the black man decades ago, it's like saying that a tyranical boss at work is just like Hitler.
The comparisons don't hold ANY water.
Furthermore, nobody has ever claimed that they don't have the right to believe what they do.
Just that they shouldn't be allowed to gather outside funerals.
No sane law should EVER allow this. This is not a grey area.
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tailgater wrote:
I don't see it that way.
Based on the information from the OP, the town may have covered themeselves well enough to prevent a lawsuit.
Consider the issues:
1. The guy got beat up. No witnesses. Who do you blame?
2. Vehicles parked so as to block their cars. The cops didn't refuse to act. The response simply took longer than expected.
3. Several were held in connection to a crime. Let's assume that the cops will be smart enough to cook the books to make this a fact. And these people were strangers to the town and therefore could easily be confused for someone else.

You can ASSUME the roadblocks, both literal and figurative, were purposeful. But to prove it in a court of law??


Our first ammendment rights are near and dear to us. But when someone compares the rights of these freaks to the plight of the black man decades ago, it's like saying that a tyranical boss at work is just like Hitler.
The comparisons don't hold ANY water.
Furthermore, nobody has ever claimed that they don't have the right to believe what they do.
Just that they shouldn't be allowed to gather outside funerals.
No sane law should EVER allow this. This is not a grey area.


I certainly hope you aren't advocating what you are saying here. Free speech isn't protected for the stuff everyone agrees with or finds 'nice'. It's a protected right to protect those who say unpopular things. As much as these people are the scum of the earth, next time how much will we take before we decide it's enough? Less? Not a good precedent to set.
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tailgater wrote:
I don't see it that way.
Based on the information from the OP, the town may have covered themeselves well enough to prevent a lawsuit.
Consider the issues:
1. The guy got beat up. No witnesses. Who do you blame?
2. Vehicles parked so as to block their cars. The cops didn't refuse to act. The response simply took longer than expected.
3. Several were held in connection to a crime. Let's assume that the cops will be smart enough to cook the books to make this a fact. And these people were strangers to the town and therefore could easily be confused for someone else.

You can ASSUME the roadblocks, both literal and figurative, were purposeful. But to prove it in a court of law??


Our first ammendment rights are near and dear to us. But when someone compares the rights of these freaks to the plight of the black man decades ago, it's like saying that a tyranical boss at work is just like Hitler.
The comparisons don't hold ANY water.
Furthermore, nobody has ever claimed that they don't have the right to believe what they do.
Just that they shouldn't be allowed to gather outside funerals.
No sane law should EVER allow this. This is not a grey area.











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Remind me of your position when someone like me is in charge of a jurisdiction where you are at some point. It would be a good thing to teach you a lesson about getting what you wish for.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Remind me of your position when someone like me is in charge of a jurisdiction where you are at some point. It would be a good thing to teach you a lesson about getting what you wish for.








Flapper LOL
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Flapper LOL


It was hyperbole, in case you can't recognize it.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
It was hyperbole, in case you can't recognize it.






hyperbole has 4 syllables....That's over my head...
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Remind me of your position when someone like me is in charge of a jurisdiction where you are at some point. It would be a good thing to teach you a lesson about getting what you wish for.




Point of Order: Someone like you will never be in charge of a jurisdiction.
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fishinguitarman wrote:
hyperbole has 4 syllables....That's over my head...




Hyperbole is an SAT test word that is biased against people like you.
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tailgater wrote:
I don't see it that way.
Based on the information from the OP, the town may have covered themeselves well enough to prevent a lawsuit.
Consider the issues:
1. The guy got beat up. No witnesses. Who do you blame?
2. Vehicles parked so as to block their cars. The cops didn't refuse to act. The response simply took longer than expected.
3. Several were held in connection to a crime. Let's assume that the cops will be smart enough to cook the books to make this a fact. And these people were strangers to the town and therefore could easily be confused for someone else.

You can ASSUME the roadblocks, both literal and figurative, were purposeful. But to prove it in a court of law??


Our first ammendment rights are near and dear to us. But when someone compares the rights of these freaks to the plight of the black man decades ago, it's like saying that a tyranical boss at work is just like Hitler.
The comparisons don't hold ANY water.
Furthermore, nobody has ever claimed that they don't have the right to believe what they do.
Just that they shouldn't be allowed to gather outside funerals.
No sane law should EVER allow this. This is not a grey area.


Put the cap back on the glue and stop sniffing it.
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borndead1 wrote:
Parking trucks behind their vehicles was a brilliant idea.

Beating one of their members up? NOT a good idea. It only justifies their perceived "persecution", and in their sick minds, validates their beliefs.



It's too bad they weren't all beat up. I'm gonna call B.S. on this. Getting as a$$ whoppin' does not change anyone's opinions of these idiots. If they got an a$$ whoppin' everywhere they went, I believe they would disappear rather quickly, and the only folks who would be outraged are the idiots who support them. All 2 of 'em.
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rfenst wrote:
Put the cap back on the glue and stop sniffing it.

As much as I dislike what these people do, I have to agree with Robert here - aren't we supposed to be bigger and better then they are? Beating them up isn't what Jesus had in mind and if you believe it is, you're not understanding anything Jesus stood for. What they do is deplorable and the initial reaction is to beat them. When we reach that point we become no better then they.

I haven't been to church in 35 years and I understand the Bible better than that......
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I hate this group and probably have more direct exposure to them than anyone else in here. On a primal instinct level level I feel they deserve anything they get.

But I recently read something to the effect that when you use evil to fight against evil the distinction becomes difficult to make. Law and order should not be selective.
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I agree with the Chief & TW. The same hypocrites who decry these strange "Christian" folks' freedom of (unpopular) speech are probably the ones who go to church on Sunday and then (deleted rest of post)...

Suffice to say- let them be. In the end, they will be judged accordingly. Besides, IMO, it's a slippery slope when you deny this type of speech. We're already skidding as it is.
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Lumpa in post 4, rich in post 15, born in 28, me in 18 and 31 also posted the same sentiments. But no one agrees with any of those. My posts were even mocked for unrelated things. Funny how grown men can act like middle school girls.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Funny how grown men can act like middle school girls.


Home school or public?
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Lumpa in post 4, rich in post 15, born in 28, me in 18 and 31 also posted the same sentiments. But no one agrees with any of those. My posts were even mocked for unrelated things. Funny how grown men can act like middle school girls.





Funny how you can't make a comment without calling somebody an idiot or middle school girls or whiny bitches or some other name.

Now WHO'S the immature one here?
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stogiemonger wrote:
It's too bad they weren't all beat up. I'm gonna call B.S. on this. Getting as a$$ whoppin' does not change anyone's opinions of these idiots. If they got an a$$ whoppin' everywhere they went, I believe they would disappear rather quickly, and the only folks who would be outraged are the idiots who support them. All 2 of 'em.





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stogiemonger wrote:
It's too bad they weren't all beat up. I'm gonna call B.S. on this. Getting as a$$ whoppin' does not change anyone's opinions of these idiots. If they got an a$$ whoppin' everywhere they went, I believe they would disappear rather quickly, and the only folks who would be outraged are the idiots who support them. All 2 of 'em.


I'm not saying that their ass whoopin' will get them sympathy from anyone...I'm saying it will only reinforce their views of themselves and make them feel even more justified in their "cause".
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WWJRD?

(What would Janet Reno do?)
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the superiority of our freedom-based way of life in America is it's ability to protect the rights of the vast majority (who need no protection normally) BECAUSE it protects the rights of the most vile and hideously unpopular minority. Without these detestable extreme tests, you folks would have no meaningful rights either. Freedom of speech is alot more than being free to say crap. But when the majority is allowed to play loose with the police to silence those they hate (no matter how right you guys are here) that is when everyone should fear the door to totalitarianism opening up a crack. Extreme protection of rights keeps that door shut.

Issuing a parade permit to neo-nazis in Skokie IL was just such an example. Made me want to puke, but I supported the decision. And though these situations may allow exposure for these groups, they might pick up a few supporters that are likely already mentally imbablanced hateful people, but more than likely the vast majority seeing them for the first time would hate the sickness they represent. I say give them their own 24 hour cable network...any success they have is partially due to the attraction (to sickos) of their partially underground/neo-victim status.
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