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Americans were shocked and outraged when students took over the Tucson school board meeting last week, shackling themselves to chairs and tables, and screaming about "racist America" along with Mexican-nationalist and Marxist slogans. The students were from "Aztlan Academy", a school funded by "La Raza" in which the almost exclusively Hispanic students are taught that American laws and culture are racist, and that the American Southwest was stolen from Mexico, and must one day be "reconquered" by Hispanics.

The National Council of La Raza - literally "The Race" - supports racially-divisive charter schools in nearly half the states of our nation. These schools utilize the "Raza Studies" curriculum that turns American history on its head, denounces beloved U.S. historical figures as racist criminals, and promotes the "Reconquista" or future re-conquering of the American Southwest back to Mexico.

That these schools even exist are a national disgrace. But the real scandal is YOU PAY FOR THEM. La Raza receives more than $5 million per year in government funding to spread such hate and division to hundeds of thousands of students.

THIS MUST END. Defund La Raza is launching a major advertising and social media effort to expose La Raza to the vast majority of Americans who do not know their own taxes fund this radical group against their own interests and values.

Please help us run our national ad to spread the word about the outrage of TAXPAYER-FUNDED "La Raza" movement poisoning the minds of students

Race-Baiting Mainstream Views.

There are many immigrant groups joined in the overall "La Raza" movement. The most prominent and mainstream organization is the National Council de La Raza -- the Council of "The Race". Most politicians and reporters see La Raza as no different from a "Latino" version of the Rotary Club. But there is no comparison. La Raza abuses its non-profit status to push a racially-divisive agenda that includes opposition to nearly ANY enforcement or restrictions against illegal aliens - frequently calling opponents "racists" for not kowtowing to their positions.

Advised Mexican Government on Lobbying Congress to Pass Amnesty

Similarly states, from Arizona to Georgia have been vilified as racist for merely trying to control the massive numbers of illegal immigrants undercutting American workers and increasing crime and welfare-use rates. This despite the fact that large majorities of Americans support such measures. La Raza even advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty!

Yet - using this Hispanic race-card - "the Race" more often than not gets their way. Nowhere more evident than the millions it receives every year in government grants. In just the past three years alone, La Raza received nearly $12 million of Federal grants. Of this total nearly $1 million per year is used for "lobbying". In other words, YOUR government pays La Raza to lobby YOUR government to increase its grant money, nearly always in support of an agenda YOU oppose. Is this what you support?

Please help us run our ad to cut off this bigoted organization's taxpayer lifeline, and stop their manipulation of our political process.

“We don’t want to drink from a White water fountain"

But perhaps the most disturbing activities La Raza engages in are their militant 'ethnic nationalist' charter schools. The schools include Aztlan Academy in Tucson, Ariz., the Mexicayotl Academy in Nogales, Ariz., Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School in St. Paul, Minn., and La Academia Semillas del Pueblo in Los Angeles, whose principal said: “We don’t want to drink from a White water fountain, we have our own wells and our natural reservoirs and our way of collecting rain in our aqueducts. We don’t need a White water fountain . . . ultimately the White way, the American way, the neo liberal, capitalist way of life will eventually lead to our own destruction.”

Students at Aztlan Academy in Tucson, AZ learned that California, Arizona, New Mexico and parts of Colorado and Texas are really "Aztlan", the ancient homeland of the Aztecs, and still rightfully belong to their descendants, people of indigenous Mexican heritage, according to a teacher who blew the whistle on the previously unknown curriculum. Students were told that few Mexicans took advanced high school courses because their “white teachers” didn’t believe they were capable and wanted to prevent them from getting ahead.

Please help us run our ad to stop this dangerous assault on our educational system. Help DEFUND La Raza now.

"Viva La Raza!"

These schools that teach racial separation and anti-American propaganda are supported by YOUR TAX DOLLARS via grants to La Raza. The curriculum engenders racial division, demeans America’s civil institutions, undermines public servants, discounted any virtues in western civilization and teaches disdain for American sovereignty. The United States itself is the enemy - a racist occupier of "Mexican land". And Mexican and racial superiority is encouraged.


What We Are Doing

Despite the distortion of American values and opposition to the rule of law by La Raza, few Americans know about this outrageous misuse of their tax dollars, because the biased media refuses to cover it, and politicians are too intimidated to oppose them. That is where Defund La Raza comes in. We are dedicated to exposing the "The Race" to all Americans. We will be releasing exposé articles and videos, and are now running a national TV ad to reveal this dangerous organization to the vast majority of Americans who have no idea that their very own tax dollars FUND La Raza! We will not stop until La Raza is DEFUNDED by government and corporate entities.

If you support our cause, please help us run our ad. the more support we get the more widely we can run the ad and expose this scandal to the American People.

And whether or not you support our ads, please DO join the fight, by going to DefundLaRaza.com and use our resources. then contact your U.S. Representative at (202) 224-3121 and tell them to sponsor/support legislation to defund "The Race".

DrafterX Offline
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they should have checked all the students for ID and deported the ones who couldn't produce.... Mellow
FuzzNJ Offline
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Poor white man being held back by hispanic racism! Oh the horror! Stop this insanity now! lmfao
fishinguitarman Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Poor white man being held back by hispanic racism! Oh the horror! Stop this insanity now! lmfao




So you think that teaching hispanic kids, in school, to be racist is funny.....very sad
DrafterX Offline
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I heard they all get AK-47s when they graduate.... Mellow
Whistlebritches Offline
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If America is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO racist and you're SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO unhappy here....................................FUGGIN LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ron
FuzzNJ Offline
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fishinguitarman wrote:
So you think that teaching hispanic kids, in school, to be racist is funny.....very sad


So you think this is true? WTF people.

Do you know that this group gets funding from the Gates foundation, Wal-Mart, The Ford Foundation and others? It's not a racist group for christ's sake, holy crap. In this context it means 'my people' or something similar and it has been around for over 100 damn years.

I guess the United Negro College Fund is racist too because the word 'negro' is in the name.

Conservatives and their feelings, getting all scared over nothing.
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Whistlebritches

silly cliche answer.

if your neighbor becomes a problem to you, you don't move, you try to fix the problem.

personally what happens in arizon, should stay in arizona.
DrafterX Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:

I guess the United Negro College Fund is racist too because the word 'negro' is in the name.




OhMyGod
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FuzzNJ

the NAACP is worse.
wheelrite Offline
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I showed this to Pedro.He's very proud of the future Lawn Mowers of America !
fishinguitarman Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
So you think this is true?






Good answer...Oh THAT'S right it was a Q as usual!
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Lefty, read & learn:


Behind the respectable front of the National Council of La Raza lies the real agenda of the La Raza movement, the agenda that led to those thousands of illegal immigrants in the streets of American cities, waving Mexican flags, brazenly defying our laws, and demanding concessions.

Key among the secondary organizations is the radical racist group Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.

One of America's greatest strengths has always been taking in immigrants from cultures around the world, and assimilating them into our country as Americans. By being citizens of the U.S. we are Americans first, and only, in our national loyalties.

This is totally opposed by MEChA for the hordes of illegal immigrants pouring across our borders, to whom they say:

"Chicano is our identity; it defines who we are as people. It rejects the notion that we...should assimilate into the Anglo-American melting pot...Aztlan was the legendary homeland of the Aztecas ... It became synonymous with the vast territories of the Southwest, brutally stolen from a Mexican people marginalized and betrayed by the hostile custodians of the Manifest Destiny." (Statement on University of Oregon MEChA Website, Jan. 3, 2006)

MEChA isn't at all shy about their goals, or their views of other races. Their founding principles are contained in these words in "El Plan Espiritual de Aztlan" (The Spiritual Plan for Aztlan):

"In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal gringo invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny. ... Aztlan belongs to those who plant the seeds, water the fields, and gather the crops and not to the foreign Europeans. ... We are a bronze people with a bronze culture. Before the world, before all of North America, before all our brothers in the bronze continent, we are a nation, we are a union of free pueblos, we are Aztlan. For La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada."

That closing two-sentence motto is chilling to everyone who values equal rights for all. It says: "For The Race everything. Outside The Race, nothing."

If these morally sickening MEChA quotes were coming from some fringe website, Americans could at least console themselves that it was just a small group of nuts behind it. Nearly every racial and ethnic group has some shady characters and positions in its past and some unbalanced individuals today claiming racial superiority and demanding separatism. But this is coming straight from the official MEChA sites at Georgetown University, the University of Texas, UCLA, University of Michigan, University of Colorado, University of Oregon, and many other colleges and universities around the country.

MEChA was in fact reported to be one of the main organizers of those street demonstrations we witnessed over the past weeks. That helps explain why those hordes of illegal immigrants weren't asking for amnesty -- they were demanding an end to U.S. law, period. Unlike past waves of immigrants who sought to become responsible members of American society, these protesters reject American society altogether, because they have been taught that America rightfully belongs to them.

MEChA and the La Raza movement teach that Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as "Aztlan" -- a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America. As such, it belongs to the followers of MEChA. These are all areas America should surrender to "La Raza" once enough immigrants, legal or illegal, enter to claim a majority, as in Los Angeles. The current borders of the United States will simply be extinguished.

This plan is what is referred to as the "Reconquista" or reconquest, of the Western U.S.

But it won't end with territorial occupation and secession. The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of "Aztlan."

As Miguel Perez of Cal State-Northridge's MEChA chapter has been quoted as saying: "The ultimate ideology is the liberation of Aztlan. Communism would be closest [to it]. Once Aztlan is established, ethnic cleansing would commence: Non-Chicanos would have to be expelled -- opposition groups would be quashed because you have to keep power."


humanevents
Whistlebritches Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
Whistlebritches

silly cliche answer.

if your neighbor becomes a problem to you, you don't move, you try to fix the problem.

personally what happens in arizon, should stay in arizona.



Rick

You absolutely have no idea what La Raza is.They're teaching school age Hispanic kids here in Texas that this is their land,that WHITE laws do not pertain to them,that the only way to right this wrong is to eradicate all trespassers.Thats just the Cliff notes.....it goes much deeper than this.


I say take that BS back to Mexico..........and don't let the door hit you in the azz on the way out.

Ron
fishinguitarman Offline
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Brick wall
Whistlebritches wrote:
Rick

You absolutely have no idea what La Raza is.They're teaching school age Hispanic kids here in Texas that this is their land,that WHITE laws do not pertain to them,that the only way to right this wrong is to eradicate all trespassers.Thats just the Cliff notes.....it goes much deeper than this.


I say take that BS back to Mexico..........and don't let the door hit you in the azz on the way out.

Ron







Fuzzy doesn't believe you....Brick wall
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wheelrite wrote:
I showed this to Pedro.He's very proud of the future Lawn Mowers of America !



rofl
HockeyDad Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
Whistlebritches

silly cliche answer.

if your neighbor becomes a problem to you, you don't move, you try to fix the problem.





PAINT YOUR HOUSE!
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FuzzNJ wrote:
It's not a racist group for christ's sake, holy crap. In this context it means 'my people' or something similar and it has been around for over 100 damn years.


And 'Mein Kampf' merely means 'My Struggle'...nothing threatening there either.
FuzzNJ Offline
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DadZilla3 wrote:
And 'Mein Kampf' merely means 'My Struggle'...nothing threatening there either.


Godwin's law in only 18 posts! Neat!
TMCTLT Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Poor white man being held back by hispanic racism! Oh the horror! Stop this insanity now! lmfao



Fuzzy, I mean this with ALL my heart...........GO P H U C K yourself!!!!!!!! Of course I can see where a Non- contributor like your self would feel exactly the way that you do......
wheelrite Offline
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I'm not lily white
borndead1 Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
So you think this is true? WTF people.

Do you know that this group gets funding from the Gates foundation, Wal-Mart, The Ford Foundation and others? It's not a racist group for christ's sake, holy crap. In this context it means 'my people' or something similar and it has been around for over 100 damn years.

I guess the United Negro College Fund is racist too because the word 'negro' is in the name.

Conservatives and their feelings, getting all scared over nothing.


Fuzz, I lived in Los Angeles for 9 years and saw several of this group's marches. They are indeed a racist organization. Believe it or not, highly organized and well funded anti-white racism is alive and well.
FuzzNJ Offline
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TMCTLT wrote:
Fuzzy, I mean this with ALL my heart...........GO P H U C K yourself!!!!!!!! Of course I can see where a Non- contributor like your self would feel exactly the way that you do......



lmao, hugs and kisses.
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SELF ESTEEM



OUTRAGE !


RICKAMAVEN Offline
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HockeyDad

are you fixated on paint or my home, or the combination.
HockeyDad Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
HockeyDad

are you fixated on paint or my home, or the combination.




"if your neighbor becomes a problem to you, you don't move, you try to fix the problem."

Follow your own advice and be a good neighbor. PAINT YOUR HOUSE!

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DadZilla3 wrote:
And 'Mein Kampf' merely means 'My Struggle'...nothing threatening there either.




^^^^^well said and +1
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FuzzNJ wrote:
So you think this is true? WTF people.

Do you know that this group gets funding from the Gates foundation, Wal-Mart, The Ford Foundation and others? It's not a racist group for christ's sake, holy crap. In this context it means 'my people' or something similar and it has been around for over 100 damn years.

I guess the United Negro College Fund is racist too because the word 'negro' is in the name.

Conservatives and their feelings, getting all scared over nothing.














the American Southwest was stolen from Mexico, and must one day be "reconquered" by Hispanics.


Fuzz you don't know wtf you are talking about. I been hearing this shizz for years. Let's get REAL here for moment. The southwest wasn't stolen from Mexico,..if Mexico and it's people and the illegal population from Mexico that's here in the US, would know anything about History(cause if you don't you're bound to repeat it), especially their own History(which they don't either way.....because if the schooling being taught down there was worth anything....well let's just say Mexico wouldn't be consider a third world country, right?....it's true, because anyone down there with some kind of money(doctors,lawyers,politicians, etc., sends their kids here to the US, for school and college just like they did before them), they would realize Mexico, LOST the southwest, by losing a War with the US. Look it up. Ever heard of the expression "When in War....to the VICTOR, goes the spoils"? That's what happen people, ol' Mexico and Gen. Santa Ana thought they could whoop some US azz but lost.

How about another way of looking at it? Since it's Memorial Day Weekend and everything."When in War....to the VICTOR, goes the spoils".....let's use that phrase for WWII, shall we? IMAGINE that the US and it's allies LOST the WAR. You don't think for a PHucq'in minute, if that happened, that Japan And Germany wouldn't have took the good old USofA and carved it up for each others benefit(if they didn't fight each for it first)?
Different parts of the country would be speaking either Japanese or German as their national language today. And if you think for a minute that there still would be a bunch of illegals here today if that had happened, guess again. Look into Japan's history a little bit and find out what they did to foreigners who enter Japan illegally.

All this being said, all the illegal azzwholes, the pieces of shizz preaching this 'la raza' racist bullshizz and its supporters should take moment of silence and thank GOD that The US DIDN"T lose and a prayer and Thanks to those that SACRIFICED their Lives, so all these illegal unappreciated phucqs can march, waving Mexican flags, burning US flags(some real Bullshiz right there), cry about the US, wanting things handed to them on a silver platter, earning MUCH better living here earning dollars NOT PESOS!!!!!! You have that LIBERTY AND FREEDOM THANKS TO THEM(US SOLDIERS) to do those things without repercussion and prosecution(except for the flag burning shiz).
FuzzNJ Offline
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nickatnite wrote:
the American Southwest was stolen from Mexico, and must one day be "reconquered" by Hispanics.


Fuzz you don't know wtf you are talking about. I been hearing this shizz for years. Let's get REAL here for moment. The southwest wasn't stolen from Mexico,..if Mexico and it's people and the illegal population from Mexico that's here in the US, would know anything about History(cause if you don't you're bound to repeat it), especially their own History(which they don't either way.....because if the schooling being taught down there was worth anything....well let's just say Mexico wouldn't be consider a third world country, right?....it's true, because anyone down there with some kind of money(doctors,lawyers,politicians, etc., sends their kids here to the US, for school and college just like they did before them), they would realize Mexico, LOST the southwest, by losing a War with the US. Look it up. Ever heard of the expression "When in War....to the VICTOR, goes the spoils"? That's what happen people, ol' Mexico and Gen. Santa Ana thought they could whoop some US azz but lost.

How about another way of looking at it? Since it's Memorial Day Weekend and everything."When in War....to the VICTOR, goes the spoils".....let's use that phrase for WWII, shall we? IMAGINE that the US and it's allies LOST the WAR. You don't think for a PHucq'in minute, if that happened, that Japan And Germany wouldn't have took the good old USofA and carved it up for each others benefit(if they didn't fight each for it first)?
Different parts of the country would be speaking either Japanese or German as their national language today. And if you think for a minute that there still would be a bunch of illegals here today if that had happened, guess again. Look into Japan's history a little bit and find out what they did to foreigners who enter Japan illegally.

All this being said, all the illegal azzwholes, the pieces of shizz preaching this 'la raza' racist bullshizz and its supporters should take moment of silence and thank GOD that The US DIDN"T lose and a prayer and Thanks to those that SACRIFICED their Lives, so all these illegal unappreciated phucqs can march, waving Mexican flags, burning US flags(some real Bullshiz right there), cry about the US, wanting things handed to them on a silver platter, earning MUCH better living here earning dollars NOT PESOS!!!!!! You have that LIBERTY AND FREEDOM THANKS TO THEM(US SOLDIERS) to do those things without repercussion and prosecution(except for the flag burning shiz).


I guess you told me, huh?

Hard to make out the Manson like text, but good for you for having an opinon.
tailgater Offline
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Poor white man being held back by hispanic racism! Oh the horror! Stop this insanity now! lmfao



I know that serious questions rarely get answered here, but are you saying that this group doesn't promote the racist and anti-american agenda that the original post claims?

I've done zero research, but have heard similar claims in the past from credible sources.
I'm not about to propagate this information without due diligence, but neither will I claim it's simple racially influenced paranoia, as you have.

Based on your track record, I believe that you dismiss the OP based solely on your left leaning thought process.
But I'm willing to listen to reason.
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tailgater wrote:
I know that serious questions rarely get answered here, but are you saying that this group doesn't promote the racist and anti-american agenda that the original post claims?

I've done zero research, but have heard similar claims in the past from credible sources.
I'm not about to propagate this information without due diligence, but neither will I claim it's simple racially influenced paranoia, as you have.

Based on your track record, I believe that you dismiss the OP based solely on your left leaning thought process.
But I'm willing to listen to reason.


What credible sources have you heard this from? I couldn't find any.

La Raza has been around for 100 years and receives funding from corporations and charities. If they are this horrible racist organization Wal-mart, the Ford Foundation etc would be running away instead of giving them money.

I'm sure people have seen people say some nasty crap and carry offensive signs, but just using logic it's a very high percentage that it isn't this group.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
What credible sources have you heard this from? I couldn't find any.

La Raza has been around for 100 years and receives funding from corporations and charities. If they are this horrible racist organization Wal-mart, the Ford Foundation etc would be running away instead of giving them money.

I'm sure people have seen people say some nasty crap and carry offensive signs, but just using logic it's a very high percentage that it isn't this group.

What sources would you consider "credible"???? It seems if you don't agree with the opinion or the source, it's not credible. But, you believe the stuff you read that supports your opinion and tell me it's credible. Do I need to hear this on CBS to be credible? Do I need to hear this on NPR to be credible?
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chiefburg wrote:
What sources would you consider "credible"???? It seems if you don't agree with the opinion or the source, it's not credible. But, you believe the stuff you read that supports your opinion and tell me it's credible. Do I need to hear this on CBS to be credible? Do I need to hear this on NPR to be credible?



Pretend you are in school and think of what the professor would accept as a credible source for a paper.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Pretend you are in school and think of what the professor would accept as a credible source for a paper.



That's rich....years ago teachers/professors used to tell/teach kids in class, back in the 'wild wild west', the Indians were the savages;the bad guys, the Calvary/Cowboys; the heroes, the good guys(just an example of all the false bullshiz schools used to teach and/or was in texts books). So you're saying you believe everything a teacher/professor says, and everything you read and any source a professor checks off as 'credible'? That's hypocritical, concidering 'La Raza' thinks the teachings/schooling going on in America is 'the white man's way',' the white man's thinking' , 'the white man's "brain washings"'. Now you are making no sense and talking out of your azz.
Like the saying goes....."Ignorance is Bliss".
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Godwin's law in only 18 posts! Neat!

From your favorite writer, Ayn Rand:
'You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.'
TMCTLT Offline
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borndead1 wrote:
Fuzz, I lived in Los Angeles for 9 years and saw several of this group's marches. They are indeed a racist organization. Believe it or not, highly organized and well funded anti-white racism is alive and well.




Interesting how Fuzz only chimes in when he thinks he can somehow discount what is being said, but when offered 1st hand eye accounts of this groups behavior he has nothing to say........Fuzzy, this was not meant to smear or besmirch the entire mexican population as I don't operate that way, just this RACIST organization.
FuzzNJ Offline
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nickatnite wrote:
That's rich....years ago teachers/professors used to tell/teach kids in class, back in the 'wild wild west', the Indians were the savages;the bad guys, the Calvary/Cowboys; the heroes, the good guys(just an example of all the false bullshiz schools used to teach and/or was in texts books). So you're saying you believe everything a teacher/professor says, and everything you read and any source a professor checks off as 'credible'? That's hypocritical, concidering 'La Raza' thinks the teachings/schooling going on in America is 'the white man's way',' the white man's thinking' , 'the white man's "brain washings"'. Now you are making no sense and talking out of your azz.
Like the saying goes....."Ignorance is Bliss".


lmao, No. I don't believe everything a professor says, nor everything I read from a source schools consider credible. One still uses critical thinking skills.

This post, however, is from a guy trying to raise money for his lobbying effort. Not a credible source.

Would you believe anything coming from say Peta or MoveOn without independent confirmation?
tailgater Offline
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If my memory is correct, La Raza was one of the groups that organized the boycotts against Arizona in response to their immigration laws.

They also have been repeatedly photographed during their rallies to fly thier mexican flag above an upside down american flag.

And the supposed affiliation to La Raza by Sotomayer was viewed as a negative, not a positive, when she was still a candidate for the SCOTUS.




I'm sure they do some good things in their organization, but when their name means "the race" and their primary mission is to push the USA to embrace tens of millions of known criminals, then I'd say it's pretty obvious that their agenda is wholely UN-American.

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tailgater wrote:
If my memory is correct, La Raza was one of the groups that organized the boycotts against Arizona in response to their immigration laws.

They also have been repeatedly photographed during their rallies to fly thier mexican flag above an upside down american flag.

And the supposed affiliation to La Raza by Sotomayer was viewed as a negative, not a positive, when she was still a candidate for the SCOTUS.




I'm sure they do some good things in their organization, but when their name means "the race" and their primary mission is to push the USA to embrace tens of millions of known criminals, then I'd say it's pretty obvious that their agenda is wholely UN-American.



Your memory is correct, but on the third thing it was viewed as a negative only by those trying to kill her nomination by trying to paint the orginization as something it isn't.

Also, their primary mission is being a Hispanic civil rights association, like the NAACP, and they have been around for 100 years or so. So I guess the NAACP would also be racist too since their name has 'colored' in it. You may disagree with their stances on some of the issues, but that doesn't mean they are racist or un-american.
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man, it must suck to be a poor white boy in this country.... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
man, it must suck to be a poor white boy in this country.... Mellow


Being poor sucks regardless.
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ya.... but at least they get cheese.. Mellow
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LE gubmint cheese!
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Being poor sucks regardless.



http://tinyurl.com/yfwgkwz


FIGHT THE POWER!!!
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Your memory is correct, but on the third thing it was viewed as a negative only by those trying to kill her nomination by trying to paint the orginization as something it isn't.

Also, their primary mission is being a Hispanic civil rights association, like the NAACP, and they have been around for 100 years or so. So I guess the NAACP would also be racist too since their name has 'colored' in it. You may disagree with their stances on some of the issues, but that doesn't mean they are racist or un-american.



Sotomayers camp denied the affiliations.
Probably because the group leaders do very little to thwart the fringe racist shenanigans because they know it probably helps increase their enrollment in the long run.

The strength of their "Hispanic civil rights association" is based on the sheer number of Latinos living in the US.
This is boosted if you include the criminals who came here illegally. Likewise, it's hindered somewhat if you don't.

I applaud much of what they do. They advertise a respectible goal that is mutually beneficial for both America and her favorite cousin to the south.
But the reality of militant rallies and boycotts of innocent business owners just to make their point is far from being an advocate for peaceful change.
And the more they push for a blanket of amnesty, the more our borders will suffer an immediate influx in hopes that they can beat the clock.

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tailgater wrote:
Sotomayers camp denied the affiliations.
Probably because the group leaders do very little to thwart the fringe racist shenanigans because they know it probably helps increase their enrollment in the long run.

The strength of their "Hispanic civil rights association" is based on the sheer number of Latinos living in the US.
This is boosted if you include the criminals who came here illegally. Likewise, it's hindered somewhat if you don't.

I applaud much of what they do. They advertise a respectible goal that is mutually beneficial for both America and her favorite cousin to the south.
But the reality of militant rallies and boycotts of innocent business owners just to make their point is far from being an advocate for peaceful change.
And the more they push for a blanket of amnesty, the more our borders will suffer an immediate influx in hopes that they can beat the clock.



I don't remember her denying the affiliation at all, only combating the lies about what the organization is.

The rest is disagreement on policy, yet it's framed as racist or un-American.
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What exactly is La Raza Fuzz?
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I stated:

"I applaud much of what they do. They advertise a respectible goal that is mutually beneficial for both America and her favorite cousin to the south.
But the reality of militant rallies and boycotts of innocent business owners just to make their point is far from being an advocate for peaceful change.
And the more they push for a blanket of amnesty, the more our borders will suffer an immediate influx in hopes that they can beat the clock."




Fuzz claims that this:

".. is disagreement on policy, yet it's framed as racist or un-American. "



It would be nifty keen if you'd elaborate somewhat. Because I see this as more than just a policy difference.
And I didn't frame anything as racist, other than to point out their M.O.



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tailgater wrote:
I stated:

"I applaud much of what they do. They advertise a respectible goal that is mutually beneficial for both America and her favorite cousin to the south.
But the reality of militant rallies and boycotts of innocent business owners just to make their point is far from being an advocate for peaceful change.
And the more they push for a blanket of amnesty, the more our borders will suffer an immediate influx in hopes that they can beat the clock."




Fuzz claims that this:

".. is disagreement on policy, yet it's framed as racist or un-American. "



It would be nifty keen if you'd elaborate somewhat. Because I see this as more than just a policy difference.
And I didn't frame anything as racist, other than to point out their M.O.





Your very first post defended the idea that La Raza had a racist agenda.

"but are you saying that this group doesn't promote the racist and anti-american agenda that the original post claims?

I've done zero research, but have heard similar claims in the past from credible sources. "

Pointing out that their M.O. is racist isn't framing anything as racist? What the hell?

Your objection has been from the start that they support 'amnesty', I've looked back at your posts and not seen what else you find objectionable, as you've even repeated here you 'applaud' their efforts.

So unless there is something else you aren't saying here that you object to, that's a policy difference on how to handle the immigration problem.
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FuzzNJ wrote:
Your very first post defended the idea that La Raza had a racist agenda.

"but are you saying that this group doesn't promote the racist and anti-american agenda that the original post claims?

I've done zero research, but have heard similar claims in the past from credible sources. "

Pointing out that their M.O. is racist isn't framing anything as racist? What the hell?

Your objection has been from the start that they support 'amnesty', I've looked back at your posts and not seen what else you find objectionable, as you've even repeated here you 'applaud' their efforts.

So unless there is something else you aren't saying here that you object to, that's a policy difference on how to handle the immigration problem.



Fuzz,
I responded to your post that says:

I don't remember her denying the affiliation at all, only combating the lies about what the organization is.

The rest is disagreement on policy, yet it's framed as racist or un-American.


Since your first sentence seemed to be in direct response to the post you were quoting, I naturally assumed that your second sentence was likewise in response to the remainder of my post that you quoted.

A flaw in the system, perhaps, but one severrely exacerbated when you use the "Quote" response then randomly reference earlier posts.
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