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Let me see if I got this right:

You want the United States of America to be more like North Korea, Iran, Afghanistan, China, Venezuala and CUBA?

Well, I for one certainly don't. If you do, you are a fascist.

But enjoy your little email spam fantasy.

Ah, it's the 'minorities' that are the problem. Ok. It's obvious where you are coming from.

Ok, so lets have it, where might that be?

Just like you, take the part that you want out of that and not even adress the part that I was talking about, just like the liberal media! You should run for office!

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You forgot Saudia Arabia!

/sigh, ok, so you want this country to emulate the Saudi's? I sure don't.

Better?

Ah, that doesn't fit on a sign as easily. Saying you want to be more like Iran or Cuba does. Besides, there is no one, either left or right who is pro-illegal immigration. Seriously. There are differences on how to deal with the situation/problem, but no one who has any clout or power or holds an elected office is pro-illegal immigration.

Ah yes, backing off from your 'minorities' position I see with the 'I know white people who couldn't get 'something' because of a minority' argument. If I've seen it once, I've seen it 1,000 times, and 999 of those times the story is complete BS.

"I have a friend of a friend whose cousin was going for a job and a black guy got the job instead even though he wasn't as qualified." And other similar stories. Everyone of your obvious political leanings has a few of those 'stories'. /yawn

Instead of just saying that, it would be probably best for your position to explain why and how, don't you think?

you forgot cheese.....

What about the puppies?

Pedro trimmed the hedges and pulled weeds here today.

My yard looks great..

Btw,
it's 103 in the shade. Whitey won't work like that...

As much as you don't think it happens Fuzz, it does, more than just one in 1000... True, there are a lot of BS stories out there pertaining to these examples...

Illegal immigration is a problem for sure but, until we fix the second, and third generation welfare recipient situation, we won't fix anything... There are people that have never known anything but welfare, and Government "assistance". To me, that is waste.

This country has gone through the same stuff before. 150-100 years ago it was the Irish, then Italians, etc. Each group having trouble becaue the 'native' population didn't want them here for one reason or another. This too will pass, it will get figured out someday. I know 'this time is different', it always is, yada yada. Seems like we're going to solve the problem this time by making the US a place no one would want to come to anyway.

The comments I made about Cuba above weren't either anti or pro. Mcbryde's were pro for all those countries in the OP on the border issue saying he thought they were doing a good job. I suggested the conservatives use it as a campaign slogan. I also did not applaud a wonderful healthcare system, I did, however, say that they were able to at least provide basic healthcare for all their citizens, something that we can't do and something that I consider a moral failing for the US.

Liberals are always so quick to call people racists. Since tailgater started the response I will give you a specific and personal example. On my mothers side of the family my grandparents were Italian-American immagrants. They used to tell stories of how hard their parents worked to become part of the fabric of ths country and to integrate themselves in the culture. They used to tell me the happiest day in their parents lives were when they became American citizens. My grandmother and grandfather grew up speaking Italian in the house but their parents would whup their asses if they dared to speak anything but English outside of the home. It was hysterical as a kid to see my grandmother and the Italian butcher carry on a conversation in broken English when they were both more comfortable speaking Italian but neither one would disrespect their adopted home country. They made an effort to integrate their family and cultural traditions into their new lives. 4th of July was a huge family get together but we always had macaroni and sausage and peppers along side our hamburgers and hot dogs. My mother has cousins whose last name is Irish even though they are 100% Italian. At the time her uncle grew up the Irish controlled the unions and Italians were not even considered for jobs. So he did what he needed to do and dropped a few vowels from his last name and legally changed it to something that sounded Irish and got work to support his family.

I could go on about things they did but I think its easier to point out things they didn't do. They made every attempt and put maximum effort into becoming US citizens. They didnt speak their born language outside of the home. They didnt expect signs and tests to be in their born language. They didn't fly their born countries flag outside their home or drive around with it on the hood of their car. They didn't not work and expect health care and welfare and food stamps from their new country. they didn't ignore opportunity and made the best of the education and emplyment opportunities they had.

So I don't think its racism that causes people to have issue with the current immigrants. I think its the "here I am - feed me, clothe me, keep me healthy, and oh while your at it learn my language" mentality that didnt used to exist. And its not all new immigrants that have that mentality. I work everyday with people who were born in England, Columbia, Trinidad, Jamaica, Bangladesh, Pakistan, etc. They all work hard, got their citizenship and even they are disgusted by the mentality described above.

My family has owned a building since 1981, and I have worked there since 1986... There is a low income apartment complex directly across the street from us that has always been full of welfare and section 8 housing recipients. Most have never moved, and their kids grew up and live in apartments in the same complex... now, THEIR kids are moving into apartments there, and the cycle continues... Do you know how many people in that complex are minorities? Just about NONE.... The U.S. pays people to be uneducated... Plain and simple...

I said NOTHING about race... Tell me Rick, if the purple people are peeing in the pool and ruining everybody's day, is that a blue people problem? Or, is a purple people problem?


This time Rick, YOU are talking about race... Shame on you!!!!

So Fuzzy and Elkhunter have different life experiences than Rick therefore they are racist??






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Igor never got his mule.










His seestor would still be with us.















Gawd damn tractor.

Can't drill, can't frack, what can you do.


(I think that was an old Adam Ant song)

Sudden innuendos follow..must be part of Owebama!

There is NOTHING here that can be argued over......well said indeed!!!

Also, so we're clear:

Disliking the policy: not racist

Disliking the immigrants themselves? That's another story, but anyone that doesn't understand the frustration people have over all of this is, well, an idiot.