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I'm going to switch from independent to Democrat to balance this out. (As an added bonus, I now will register under 200 fictitious names and use Rfenst's house address!)

Right now, I like that the Republican party could split. LOL!!

Seriously, I will not vote for Gingrich, Bachmann, Paul or Santorum. The cowboy from Texas scares me- he reminds me of the last Bush. Anyhow, I could "gut out" voting for Romney, depending on the impression I gain from him during the primaries and election. But, I am not looking for "anyone but Obama."

I don't think it is a question of "gutting out" a vote for Romney. You already eliminated every other candidate!

Pulling some stunt like this is not going to get you under the Obama Cone of Protection during the second term. It will be a time of glorious economic growth and the streets will flow with milk and honey.

Not because they are "losers". I disagree with them on important social policy matters like abortion, gay marriage and health care. I don't believe Mitt's "epiphany"- or at least don't want to- on abortion and health care. Truth be told, if the election were today, Obama would likely get my vote.

Nope. My home is under the cone of protection.

"Game on!" as they say in Pennsylvania.

Important social policy matters?

Abortion and gay marriage are social policy, but if you choose your President based on these issues then you're allowing the tail to wag the dog. The "right" and the "Left" want us to believe that this is somehow important.
Face it. No matter who is in the oval office, same sex marriage will work its way into the fabric of our country one state at a time.
Likewise, (and again no matter whom resides at 1600 PA Ave) abortion will never be made illegal on a national level.


Further to your post, I think that Health Care is NOT a social policy. It's a fiscal policy.
Socially, you only need make it available.
Fiscally, we need to know who's going to pay.

Obama has chosen to amaze the mathamatically challenged by offering a system where "no one" pays.
For some, this is like getting a free tie when you purchase a suit.
For many, this will be like getting that free tie without having to make the purchase.
And for a few, (Let's call it about 1%...) it's like paying for the suit but getting neither the tie nor even the suit itself.

Social policy??
Healthcare is a social policy as much as a rectal exam is a fun night out.
(appologies to Jade)

Not much of a mole since he's already ruled out every candidate except Mittens. Mittens has long been selected as the loser in Obama's reelection.

Define privacy.
I don't know if you're talking about the sodomy type or the Big Brother type.

As for social welfare, again be specific.
Using your earlier example of abortion, please remember that Roe v Wade was decided during Nixon. And despite 5 1/2 terms of Republican Presidents since that time, not one has even hinted at applying pressure to overturn the decision.

See my original point: the right and the left use these factors to win votes.
Romney has to be "pro life" in order to win the GOP ticket.
Means nothing towards the ruling should he win.

Likewise for the Gay marriage.
Bill Clinton didn't push for national acceptance of a gay marriage law, and neither did Obama.
But they will tell you that they're in favor so they win the Dem ticket.

These are two polarizing subjects, yet they're the LAST thing that will change based on a sitting president.

But because it's so emotionally charged and more interesting than, say, the deficit, it'll be a major factor in how people vote. And that's sad.




Note: I'm not suggesting that their power to appoint justices doesn't influence social laws. Simply that the POTUS can't be bothered enough by such issues to base their choices accordingly.

re Santorum

this quarter wit brought his wife's miscarriage home to introduce it to his kids who will eventually
require therapy to overcome the idiotic trauma he has caused them.

his chance of being nominated is a joke.

Not to mention that he aand his wife slept with the fetus in their bed.

I doubt this was like the Cheers episode when Lillith put the dead rat in her purse.

But it's good to know that you base your vote on the important stuff.


You would think that a guy born into a Jewish family would have more tolerance of others faith.

I'm not familiar with the Hebrew National advertising campaigns, but no worry I knew you were kidding.


Rick has been on a (probably) medicated rant lately, and his disdain for anything deeply religious yet unique has shown on more than one occassion.

We often hear his tales about being raised as a poor black child in the streets of Brooklyn, and he's used these fables to justify his (ahem) heightened awareness. Yet he routinely blasts the religious right and in this instance he is poking his 4 ft high nose into a man's personal grief and core beliefs.

He's a hypocrite.

When the person attacking never shows the ability for civil disagreement I tend to side with tailgater.


That said I love my crazy uncle Rick.

Eh, a person's under-garments are his or her private matter. You know, like a Jew who wears tzitzit.

As to the economy, I think you are right. And then, it will be time for another boom- or at least good times.

Here in Orlando, we need our housing and labor markets to balance out. More tourists will help as well. Other cities and states across the nation will improve and faster because of our housing glut, but that will just help Orlando via tourism.

Right now, I think that the European Unions' member nations' financial woes are the biggest threat to economic recovery. Jobs are up (a bit). Raw product purchases and stock piles by manufacturers are growing. The new hire outlook by manufacturers looks better. It is also just a mater of time. Five to 10 years is not unrealistic, but I hope it will be sooner.

What a troll.

It is absolutely fair for me to criticize a man directly, and to label him a hypocrite, without being one myself.

I never said my beliefs can't be criticized. Nor are the actions defined above even within my own faith or beliefs.

So how, pray tell, is that being a hypocrite?

And while it's on my mind, this board could use a little less of the sophomoric "I know you are, but what am I?" defense mechanism that you've embraced in your post above.
What's next? The "I'm rubber and you're glue" routine?
Or how about just saying "Oh yeah?"

I'd say you must be a hoot at parties, but I'm thinking you're not allowed to hang around with the adults any more.

I'm quite familiar with the Hebrew National brand, but I can honestly say that I don't ever recall reading, or seeing or hearing an ad for them.
I'm sure I have. I just haven't parked it into the ol' memory sponge.

Sure, you can criticize anyone and anything you want. But when you complain that Rick 'blasts the religious right' while you hypothosize that he's over 'medicated' and complain of hypocricy is preposterous.

What Rick did was not actually hypocritical as I didn't see him complain that you were 'blasting' him and his beliefs while he was 'blasting' yours. You did that and that's what hypocricy is. Being unsympathetic to someone else's personal beliefs after having grown up the way he did is not hypocritical, it maybe lacks empathy, but that's something conservatives have no right complaining about.

'I know you are, but what am I'? I didn't even say anything about me or glue. I think you may be projecting here.

Do you really believe that whoever is the next President will truly have much, if anything, to do with this country coming out of this recession?

Yes.
If for no other reason then to rescind the Obamacare fiasco.

I'm not talking about instant gratification, mind you. But 4 more years of Obama will most certainly hurt us all for years to come (assuming that we are all tax paying citizens here).

Your question is a good one. And perhaps I am being a tad too emphatic with my comments regarding abortion, etc.
I think ALL the variables need to be considered before someone votes. But we all too often hear a candidate who becomes defined completely and in total by their standing on abortion or gun control, etc.

The problem is that the topic is always black and white.
Pro life versus pro choice.
2nd ammendment rights versus those who want to limit guns.

There is never the reality slap of a neutral grey area. Be that a compromise or not.

Important topics that deserve debate and consideration include the recession, universal health, secure borders, fair tax codes, etc etc.
Only extreme ideas such as a fence along our border would stimulate the emotion that abortion creates.

And in the end, we've had 40 years and 10 terms since Roe v wade, and not one president has made even a ripple towards changing it. Yet it is somehow a major motivator at the voting booth.

Your condescending tone notwithstanding, watching you complain about Rick's lack of empathy is like watching Trump complain about Newt's ego.

Condescending, yes.
That is what happens when you make false accusations and then play dumb.

And you still don't get it.

I never claimed to have any empathy. Rick has.
I am not repulsed by his comments, but rather by the source.

Hence the "hypocrite" label.

Dude, if you need a dictionary I can set you up.
But this is getting ridiculous.
English.
Learn it.

Your welcome.