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HF doing my cigars right, but last night they may have saved my phone. Dropped it in water yesterday - seemed pretty f'd up. Aired it out with hot dry heat for hours yesterday and screen still didn't work. Put it in with dry beads overnight and today it works. Hooray. Litter may have done the same, but I'll never know because I don't have a cat. Until I do, I'll only have beads around.

I've heard of people doing the same with uncooked rice.

I've gotten dog rockets in the mail, but never kitty litter,lol

Beads arrived, treated them and put a container in the humi, gel was keeping things in the 63-65 range and now its reading 58.........
I have a 100 and 2 50's, I put the beads in my 100.
Bought the pre-loaded disc and set up per instructions.
Hope things will rise soon, I put the disc in Friday night.

Don't mean to revive this tired thread, or to

But, some botl may benefit from this, especially noobs or semi-noobs.

Disclaimer!
1) I'm not a KL preacher/basher or a Heartfelt preacher/basher. Just an older guy on a budget, with a growing cigar habit. I have purchased Beads and accessories from Heartfelt a few times.
2) I live in one of the world's friendliest climates with respect to cigar storage. Here in Santa Cruz, CA, the RH and temperature stay between 60 and 70 for probably 7 months a year, and does not stray far from that the other 5.

I bought these beads.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HWE6F0/ref=pe_175190_21431760_cs_sce_dp_1

I bought this cooler
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000G64I1A/ref=pe_175190_21431760_cs_sce_dp_p2

After much research, I decided to go for it doing the "on-the-fly" method, using the KL without any "training". I made five 1/4lb. KL trays, shallow, covered with pantyhose, and set in 5 full cigar boxes (which came from a RH stable environment) and multiple plastic trays with loose sticks (also from a stable environment) totaling about 250+ cigars...there's still quite a bit of room in the cooler.

Put it all in there (the KL being dry), and waited 12 hours, RH was at 58%. Moderately misted one of the KL trays. 12 hours later, RH at 62%. Moderately misted a second tray. 12 hours later, RH at 65%. Did nothing. 12 hours later, RH at 68%. Did nothing.
It is now 36 hours later, RH still holding at 68%.
It's still very early in the game, but I'm a happy camper.
Very easy and cheap for me to set-up additional coolers now, which I'm sure I'll be doing sooner than later.

As a separate exercise, I am "training" 1/2 pound of KL using humicare pillows (67%), just to see if it works.

This worked for me. Your mileage may vary.

Update:

Separated the 65% beads from the crystals a few days back (sometime last week, not so anal as to keep a diary on it...) and the KL crystals have been on their own after training. They've been in a shallow tuperware container with a calibrated digital hydrometer and are holding a steady 65% ish.

I've burped the container a couple times, stirred the litter and let them sit without the top on the container in ambient indoor air for 10 min or so (my indoor humidity runs around 30-40% in the winter). After resealing the container it bounces back to about 65% +/- 2% in about 20 min. So far I have not had to "sprits" them with water. Only let them "learn" from the beads.

Point being here is they seem to train well and respond pretty well to to returning back to their humidity set point.

I'm ready to do the reorganization of my tupers and stuff with the 2-3 lbs of freshly seasoned KL. Maybe this weekend I'll make time to do so.

Great stuff guys, thanks

Petsmart didn't have the unscented stuff so I'm trying the lavender scented stuff.
Will report back later.

Actually, from what I’ve read, the Lars Tetens might be get a little improvement that way (never tried a Tetens cigar nor would I want to based on some reviews).

http://www.cigarasylum.com/vb/archive/index.php/t-15759.html

http://www.cigarbid.com/...ts/m/2888248/Lars-Tetens

Now 5+ days in since my last post.
Coolidor dropped to 65% a day after my last post, I did did a very light misting of one tray.
It went back to 68, and held that until yesterday I checked, back to 65/66%, so I'm going to wait and see how long it holds there, if it dropsbelow 65, I'm going to mist lightly. Goal is to maintain 65-67RH.

My 65% trained KL is still holding at 64% with no further maintenance.

cigargeeks (non competitor) also had a long discussion about KL a couple of months ago. They have been working great for me, better than HF beads did last year, though I only have a 50 count cheesy humi and a smallish tupperdor, both hold for weeks at 64-65%, even in the dead of dry cold New England winter with gas fired dry warm air heat in my home. I do have a couple of distilled water pillows or such in each too. Will probably be able to remove those late Spring and go with KL solo til November. Lot less maintenance this year.

No, kind sir, I would have never thought that would offend you, you I respect and find intelligent, it was a trap meant for some of the poopoo babies on here, hehe

thank you sir, that's why I'm here

here's 1
bake in oven overnight at 200 deg. not sure if they will hold near 0-20% very long, but as long as they stay below 50 you can stick them in your gun safe, put a bag in your tool box that sits outside, only problem, you gotta recheck and zero them out regular, or these kind start pumping the moisture back into the area once rehydrated.

better to vape than eat, my friend, hehe, sure I know what you mean, where have the azzhats been lately!

top for snixon

Someone should start a cigar label named.......Exquisicat.

Featuring kopi luwak tobakky........of course.

Another thread brought me back to here. I was curious how my stuff was sitting humidity wise and it's been quite a while since I've last checked. Maybe 6 months(?). Here's a quick update (as if anyone cares).

Upstairs: ambient temp 73° F, 70% humditiy.
Small wine cooler, with TEC cooler, using 65% beads: sits at 63%

Basement: ambient temp 65° F, 62% humidity (dehumidifier running).
Tote 1: sits at 62% with the kitty litter
Tote 2: sits at 60% with the kitty litter- added a couple spritz of DI water.
Tote 3: with the kitty litter, no accurate reportable measurement that I would trust. I have a cheepie hygrometer in it but it's off quite a bit. It has like a 7% offset but based on my experience using both beads and kitty litter - I really don't have a need for an accurate hygrometer.

RIP banderl...

Bob pass?