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Eugenics........Wheel you reading prison planet again........


I think its like 70% of planned parenthood office are inthe high poverty/ high minority areas. Margaret Sanger would be sooooo proud.

This doctor is keeping the "yellow and black menace in check", just like Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood envisioned. Can't believe libs defend and fight for this b*tche's legacy.

Right Victor.


Cuz I F**k every whore who wants a welfare baby to pay their way.




Every baby is a gift from god. Parents have to prove they deserve that gift.

+1, thank you.

I don't think that's something to be proud of.

A simple Google search into the foundation of Planned Parenthood would reveal Margaret Sanger and what she wanted to do. Hitler's henchmen used what she laid down. They were just more efficient. Now with taxpayers footing the bill its as easy to get as candy. Everyone should have 4-5 riiight?

You want to use their "services"...pay for them out of YOUR pocket as YOU use them. Nobody else should be on the hook for that crap!

The whole "they're having babies to get more money from the gov't" is a common complaint on this forum. Now wheel (and you) are complaining when people in low-income communities are consciously NOT having the babies. Can't have it both ways.

Have trouble believing that whole "gift from god" bs since it kinda requires two people have sexytime for it to even have a possibility of happening. If babies were truly a "gift" wouldn't people be getting knocked up without having sex more often?

There is this traditional American concept, totally foreign to Liberals, called "personal responsibility". Many ways to prevent pregnancy. But of course Liberals think it is out of line for society to expect folk to act responsible. Better to tell folk to do whatever they wish, and if an unwanted life is created, just kill the damn thing.

Do to this wacky "personal responsibility" concept, we conservatives can be pro-life and still bitch about irresponsible folk who make unwanted babies.

Why do we have to think about personal responsibility when we have buildings full of lawyers that are more than ready to blame someone's problems on everybody else?

I never addressed the welfare thing...

Abortion is murder in any instance,,,

and the death penalty is as well,,,

Hell, I'm fine with that.
IUD's that can't come out until they have a job... (but that would require providing them healthcare to monitor them....)

That's what Muslim suicide bomber broads use, right ?

Getting an abortion does not show "personal responsibility". In fact, it is the antithesis.

No... the antithesis would be having another person pay for the raising of your child.

If you are making sure that the responsibility in question (18+ years of food, housing and education) never occurs, and you are doing it on your own dime, then you are taking responsibility for the issue.

How about a less inflammatory analogy:

You have a house which requires constant electricity.

The welfare mother would be looking for handouts to pay her electric bill (ala octomom)
The pro-life vision is that the mother get a job and pay her damn electric bill
The pro-choice vision is that she install a fully functional and maintenance free solar array on her damn house and eliminate the need to pay her monthly bill.

both choice 2 and 3 are showing personal responsibility by resolving the problem. One, through constant maintenance and effort, the other through a single permanent solution.

Uh, nope.

Personal responsibility would be not getting pregnant before she is ready.
Anything beyond this is already a step below this goal.

So, now she's pregnant. What's the "next best" thing to do?
Kill the child. That's the EASY solution and causes the least impact. According to you, this shows responsibility. And the beauty of it? It was so friggin easy.

Or:
She could have the child. At this point, if she is not ready but keeps the kid then that isn't responsible. But we all know people who had to adopt babies from friggin China because the waiting list for a healthy American infant is too long.
She could do the most selfLESS thing EVER: give that baby up for adoption to a family who is capable.
And the bonus? The young lady is unlikely to do this multiple times so it creates a more responsible person.

Forgot to add this:
Your "choice 3" requires money to build and install the solar array, and since we're talking about government sponsored abortions, I imagine you'd like for us to pay for the installation and upkeep of that as well.

So the pro-life vision is once again the most responsible decision.

you're mixing up too many issues here...
1 - saying anything beyond is a step below the goal is a cop out. The goal is not to have kids. Yes, the cheapest and most efficient way is to not be knocked up in the first place. But cheaper and easier than that is to not have sex. How people achieve the goal (not having kids) is really up to them, since I'm not about to tell people not to screw.

2 - So... you want them to put the babies up for adoption. Wheel was just whining about the incorrect % of black fetuses aborted (no it isn't 51%, but it is twice that of white fetuses) so we know that of all the babies aborted, probably close to 66% of them are black. What do you think the adoption rate for black babies is in the US? I don't know it, but I have a sneaking suspicion that while white babies are scooped up immediately, and chinese babies are imported constantly, black ones are not so much..... There's an underlying issue there which I don't think we have the bandwidth to deal with.

I believe I said "maintenance free" it was an imaginary solar array. And no, I believe abortions are payed for by the patients. There is a very clear demarcation of costs I beleive.

1. Typical liberal slant. You ignore the truly responsible thing (not getting pregnant) and use that as a starting point. And you view my position as a cop out??

2. You have no idea what you're talking about. I know at least a dozen couple who have adopted babies from over seas. I'm very good friends with half of these families, and every single one of them would have been THRILLED to be able to adopt an American child in a reasonable time frame. White, black, red, boy, girl, other.
They didn't fly to China or Korea and pick out a 3 year old girl because it was the first choice.
This isn't about color or race. It's about money, paperwork, and timing. If there were more babies available here in the US, more people would choose that option regardless of color.
I'm saddened that you don't recognize this, for it's a truly cynical viewpoint.

Uh, you believe wrong.

Yeah, what we really need is 3rd world impoverished countries popping out babies and having their populations further explode, creating even more misery and then the associated hate and discontent that produces the "name your non-christian religion of choice here" terrorists that you all clammer to have a chance to vaporize with a predator drone.

I guess you prefer to keep having them popping out children that end up starving or contributing to conditions that keep giving our government/military industrial complex boogeymen to fear and live targets to vaporize.

I just love how the same people that say "F the poor, let em work or starve" are the one's that think it's God's work to ensure that more and more humans are born into the conditions where they can continue to say F them and their lazy azzes by attempting to deny them access to contraception or abortion.

Same people who adopt the kill em all and let god sort em out attitude about Muslims are now expressing their contempt for Planned Parenthood. That's rich. Guess their take is that it's more Godly to bring into the world an unborn child so the population control takes the form of killing them later with weapons or the high mortality rate that comes with impoverished societies so the sanctity of birth is preserved.

May depend on states, but I know that some states they have to be very careful to keep their books separate to ensure that the state is not paying for any activities surrounding abortion procedures.

VIctor wants gay-homos to marry and all children aborted.

Extinction Level Event.

No fed money directly funds abortions. It could be argued that once funds lose their identity a very small amount could get there but if there is any out is very small.

State funds are a different issue but even in that instance they need to make sure no fed funds are attached.

We monitor and audit that stuff strictly.

Really, in the end, it's threads like this that are distracting us (me) from killing our (my) quota of ugly babies.

Back to the baby killing mines.

LOL!!!!