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Town Hall / Round Deux
DrMaddVibe Offline
#51 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I just happened to be watchign CBS when the debate started and listened to the so called analysts afterwards... one of them commented on how Candy had to tell Romney to take his seat like he was out of control or soemthing... Think I don't remember it going down like that..... and he said he thought it was gonna become a pushing match at one time and wondered how the Secret Servce would respond.... I had to turn the channel... Not talking



I think you're confused. Maybe you're tv is broken?
bloody spaniard Offline
#52 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I think you're confused. Maybe you're tv is broken?



I'm afraid Drafter has succumbed to Videodrome. First it attacks the mind... then it destroys the body.Drool
Long live the new flesh!


Lickboot Candy tried to save Obama on (generic NOT Benghazi specific) acts of "terror"... Obama almost scored a 12 round knockdown with the lame 47% and lied about everything else. Romney won over many undecideds & former Obama voters IMHO.
I suspect neither man can fix the deficit however.

Ross Perot endorsed Romney
Baby Boo Boo endorsed Obama (Kimmel's show)
Vegetable produce manager at Costco is considering endorsing Gary Johnson.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#53 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I'm afraid Drafter has succumbed to Videodrome. First it attacks the mind... then it destroys the body.Drool
Long live the new flesh!


Lickboot Candy tried to save Obama on (generic NOT Benghazi specific) acts of "terror"... Obama almost scored a 12 round knockdown with the lame 47% and lied about everything else. Romney won over many undecideds & former Obama voters IMHO.
I suspect neither man can fix the deficit however.

Ross Perot endorsed Romney
Baby Boo Boo endorsed Obama (Kimmel's show)
Vegetable produce manager at Costco is considering endorsing Gary Johnson.



Here I thought I was the only one that actually watched that cinema tripe with Deborah Harry!
bloody spaniard Offline
#54 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Here I thought I was the only one that actually watched that cinema tripe with Deborah Harry!


Don't make me come after you with my uhm, er, meat gun!
ThumpUp Wink
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#55 Posted:
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snowwolf777 #40


May I just inject a town hall forum comment and then move on:

NO YOU MAY NOT, BUT U MAY TAKE TWO UMBRELLA STEPS.

IF U DON'T KNOW THE REFREENCE ASK SOMEONE OVER 60.

DrMaddVibe Offline
#56 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
snowwolf777 #40


May I just inject a town hall forum comment and then move on:

NO YOU MAY NOT, BUT U MAY TAKE TWO UMBRELLA STEPS.

IF U DON'T KNOW THE REFREENCE ASK SOMEONE OVER 60.




Don't really think anyone wants to know or really cares about an "umbrella step"...the Empty Suit clearly lost the room last night...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/fox-debate-focus-group-devolves-into-frank-luntz-calling-participant-ruth-bader-ginsburg-and-a-bullsh-on-live-tv/#ooid=x0NDk4NjrRmJqGlak4vybt4bGFkrqDm-
HockeyDad Offline
#57 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
I suspect neither man can fix the deficit however.



Wait....what? Somebody is trying to fix the deficit?
teedubbya Offline
#58 Posted:
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The moderator is good or bad depending on if your guy win or not. It's a tell, intentional or not.

If you listen to the fact check you will hear her agree with Romney's larger point but correct the smaller point.

Meh. She did alright other than being fugly and hard to look at. Tons of makeup and still no better. They didn't make a big enough binder apparently.

The big o won this one easily but not by the margin max headroom won the first one. Romney got momentum from the first one, I doubt this one changes a thing.

Romney is ahead of where most thought he would be and still has traction. Fun race. Too bad it's serious and both of these chuckleheads suck.

I'm writing in my vote for bloody spamhand.

teedubbya Offline
#59 Posted:
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And I am undecided. I prolly will vote for Gary whatshishead out of protest but that's hard for me to do.

I'm still on the fence and may not make up my mind until Election Day.
bloody spaniard Offline
#60 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Wait....what? Somebody is trying to fix the deficit?


Obama is applying for a magic debit card and Romney recruited Cros to help him find enough tax loopholes.
Could be a win win for us.

Sarcasm (for the humor deprived)


Howdy, TW. I'll run if you run.ThumpUp
DrMaddVibe Offline
#61 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Howdy, TW. I'll run if you run.ThumpUp



Please...can we give poor Bawstawn a break?
tailgater Offline
#62 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
The moderator is good or bad depending on if your guy win or not. It's a tell, intentional or not.

If you listen to the fact check you will hear her agree with Romney's larger point but correct the smaller point.





The moderator isn't supposed to agree or correct anybody. Especially when her "correction" was in regards to the subjective meaning of Obama's Rose Garden address.

I know it's difficult to contain two ultra large egos like Romney and BHO, but to have her interject her interpretation of the Presidents words?? She's a disgrace and an embarrassment.

teedubbya Offline
#63 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
The moderator isn't supposed to agree or correct anybody. Especially when her "correction" was in regards to the subjective meaning of Obama's Rose Garden address.

I know it's difficult to contain two ultra large egos like Romney and BHO, but to have her interject her interpretation of the Presidents words?? She's a disgrace and an embarrassment.



I've already got the runs Blood. Letsw do it. (run for office... not what you were thinking).

Tail I disagree, but thats fine. I actually wish there was more real time fact checking done for these lying bastids. As for rules or what any of them should and shouldn't have done, none of them followed any of the rules really. I sort of wish there were none. Actually I like lincoln douglas rules.

Again, she said Romnewy was right on the larger issue, and wrong on the smaller issue and to me was accurate.

But she is fugly and I hope to never see her again.
dstieger Offline
#64 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Wait....what? Somebody is trying to fix the deficit?


No. I've looked and looked. Can't find one politician not named Ron Paul that gives a flying feral fig about the deficit
teedubbya Offline
#65 Posted:
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dstieger wrote:
No. I've looked and looked. Can't find one politician not named Ron Paul that gives a flying feral fig about the deficit



they have attention deficit, as in don't pay attention to the deficit. Back in the 80s that was an issue with Ronnie as well. Sure its a bigger issue now, but it was the one thing that kept dogging him.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#66 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
The moderator isn't supposed to agree or correct anybody. Especially when her "correction" was in regards to the subjective meaning of Obama's Rose Garden address.

I know it's difficult to contain two ultra large egos like Romney and BHO, but to have her interject her interpretation of the Presidents words?? She's a disgrace and an embarrassment.




More importantly...it appeared The One was opening the door for her to clarify his words by asking her to go to the transcript.

Okay...lets.

Rose Garden

September 12, 2012 10:43 A.M. EDT

THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. Every day, all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interests and values of our nation. Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes, they brave great danger.

Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.

The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.

Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts.

Already, many Libyans have joined us in doing so, and this attack will not break the bonds between the United States and Libya. Libyan security personnel fought back against the attackers alongside Americans. Libyans helped some of our diplomats find safety, and they carried Ambassador Stevens’s body to the hospital, where we tragically learned that he had died.

It's especially tragic that Chris Stevens died in Benghazi because it is a city that he helped to save. At the height of the Libyan revolution, Chris led our diplomatic post in Benghazi. With characteristic skill, courage, and resolve, he built partnerships with Libyan revolutionaries, and helped them as they planned to build a new Libya. When the Qaddafi regime came to an end, Chris was there to serve as our ambassador to the new Libya, and he worked tirelessly to support this young democracy, and I think both Secretary Clinton and I relied deeply on his knowledge of the situation on the ground there. He was a role model to all who worked with him and to the young diplomats who aspire to walk in his footsteps.

Along with his colleagues, Chris died in a country that is still striving to emerge from the recent experience of war. Today, the loss of these four Americans is fresh, but our memories of them linger on. I have no doubt that their legacy will live on through the work that they did far from our shores and in the hearts of those who love them back home.

Of course, yesterday was already a painful day for our nation as we marked the solemn memory of the 9/11 attacks. We mourned with the families who were lost on that day. I visited the graves of troops who made the ultimate sacrifice in Iraq and Afghanistan at the hallowed grounds of Arlington Cemetery, and had the opportunity to say thank you and visit some of our wounded warriors at Walter Reed. And then last night, we learned the news of this attack in Benghazi.

As Americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because there are people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases, lay down their lives for it. Our country is only as strong as the character of our people and the service of those both civilian and military who represent us around the globe.

No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

But we also know that the lives these Americans led stand in stark contrast to those of their attackers. These four Americans stood up for freedom and human dignity. They should give every American great pride in the country that they served, and the hope that our flag represents to people around the globe who also yearn to live in freedom and with dignity.

We grieve with their families, but let us carry on their memory, and let us continue their work of seeking a stronger America and a better world for all of our children.

Thank you. May God bless the memory of those we lost and may God bless the United States of America.

END
10:48 A.M. EDT




Everyone catch it?


Here's the CNN website...9 days after the attack...http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/20/world/africa/libya-investigation/index.html


C'mon...we were all over the lies the Kenyan King's administration have perperatrated since it went down!

http://www.cigarbid.com/...Keeps-Political-Schedule

http://www.cigarbid.com/...s-Libya-thing-blow-over-

http://www.cigarbid.com/...ma-lie-about-the-attack-

http://www.cigarbid.com/...militia-base-in-Benghazi

http://www.cigarbid.com/...-Fails-in-the-Arab-World

snowwolf777 Offline
#67 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Great point!!!

I think they are really just people who usually affiliate with one party and are still considering voting for the other, but just can't make the call yet. They are also probably also more affluent, better educated and know both side's platforms BETTER than the average voter...




I can get behind some of that. Affluent last night, maybe, because all the questions were coming from folks who live on Long Island. Not many of the questions were the type that made me think they were either smarter or better informed on the candidates. Either run-of-the-mill questions or esoteric pet issues that won't weigh heavily at the ballot box.

Kind of like that twinkle ****** that asked the first question of the night. "Hey junior - I would highly advise you to not hang around and wait for either candidate to manufacture you a good paying job. Get off your whiny ass and work your way into one."

If I sat around all my life waiting for any president from either party to make me a good paying job, I couldn't afford a pack of White Owls, let alone these Opus X daily smokes that I light with $100 bills.Frying pan

snowwolf777 Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
snowwolf777 #40


May I just inject a town hall forum comment and then move on:

NO YOU MAY NOT, BUT U MAY TAKE TWO UMBRELLA STEPS.

IF U DON'T KNOW THE REFREENCE ASK SOMEONE OVER 60.




I'm sure the broom rider who pretended to moderate last night would have loved for Mitt to play "Mother May I?"
DrMaddVibe Offline
#69 Posted:
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snowwolf777 wrote:
I can get behind some of that. Affluent last night, maybe, because all the questions were coming from folks who live on Long Island. Not many of the questions were the type that made me think they were either smarter or better informed on the candidates. Either run-of-the-mill questions or esoteric pet issues that won't weigh heavily at the ballot box.

Kind of like that twinkle ****** that asked the first question of the night. "Hey junior - I would highly advise you to not hang around and wait for either candidate to manufacture you a good paying job. Get off your whiny ass and work your way into one."

If I sat around all my life waiting for any president from either party to make me a good paying job, I couldn't afford a pack of White Owls, let alone these Opus X daily smokes that I light with $100 bills.Frying pan




I really would've like it if BOTH of them would've told him to get off the pot and day dreams. Obama cudda grabbed him like Darth Vader in a chokehold lifting him up off the ground saying..."It's not MY job to get YOU a job"...while Romney is kicking him in the nuts yelling..."and if elected it's not MY job either!"....then discard the guy by throwing him to the ground...both candidates shoulder to shoulder beau'd up ties loosened...jackets unbuttoned..."Anyone else got any other stupid assed questions like this or are we gonna talk about what's REALLY wrong with American and how either one of us can fix that?"


Well...one can dream!
snowwolf777 Offline
#70 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I really would've like it if BOTH of them would've told him to get off the pot and day dreams. Obama cudda grabbed him like Darth Vader in a chokehold lifting him up off the ground saying..."It's not MY job to get YOU a job"...while Romney is kicking him in the nuts yelling..."and if elected it's not MY job either!"....then discard the guy by throwing him to the ground...both candidates shoulder to shoulder beau'd up ties loosened...jackets unbuttoned..."Anyone else got any other stupid assed questions like this or are we gonna talk about what's REALLY wrong with American and how either one of us can fix that?"



If they would have had the guts to do that, then I would be an undecided voter today. I'd let 'em both run the country for 4 years. They could have black concert t-shirts - Obama-Romney "No More Pansies" Tour 2013 - then a list of cities and dates below. Dancing
tailgater Offline
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teedubbya wrote:


Tail I disagree, but thats fine. I actually wish there was more real time fact checking done for these lying bastids.

.


If the moderator were supposed to be the real time fact checker, then I'd agree.

She can't just decide to check just ONE "fact". Even if it weren't taken out of context, this would be an issue with anyone who simply wants the moderator to be neutral.

DrafterX Offline
#72 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
I really would've like it if BOTH of them would've told him to get off the pot and day dreams. Obama cudda grabbed him like Darth Vader in a chokehold lifting him up off the ground saying..."It's not MY job to get YOU a job"...while Romney is kicking him in the nuts yelling..."and if elected it's not MY job either!"....then discard the guy by throwing him to the ground...both candidates shoulder to shoulder beau'd up ties loosened...jackets unbuttoned..."Anyone else got any other stupid assed questions like this or are we gonna talk about what's REALLY wrong with American and how either one of us can fix that?"





Mellow
DrMaddVibe Offline
#73 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Mellow



Wha???


C'mon....the jokes don't write themselves...neither do the musings!


Like it's been pointed out already....where did they find "undecideds"? Under a rock? Listen to most of those questions...I was waiting for THE question...."Boxers or Briefs". What a joke and travesty the big disconnect that these non-thinking people conjure up. Dare for the "important" questions....Coke/Pepsi....McDonalds/Burger King...Spicy or Original or better yet...why can't we get a couple of people that are willing to get arrested for daring to ask a REAL question? While we're at it...what do ya say to letting ALL of the candidates that are on your ballot up on the stage...what are they afraid of?
teedubbya Offline
#74 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
If the moderator were supposed to be the real time fact checker, then I'd agree.

She can't just decide to check just ONE "fact". Even if it weren't taken out of context, this would be an issue with anyone who simply wants the moderator to be neutral.



I just disagree and find what she did perfectly acceptable.
DrafterX Offline
#75 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I just disagree and find what she did perfectly acceptable.



she showed you her tits didn't she....Shame on you Shame on you
teedubbya Offline
#76 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
she showed you her tits didn't she....Shame on you Shame on you


if she did I would hate her

I just think its pretty predictable who will like and not like the moderator. And the conspiracy stuff (likethinking obama was trying to have her look at the transcript rather than telling eveyone to do so etc) is laughable.

I guess I dislike both candidates enough to not see the awful inequities and atrocities that are happening towards either.

I thought she did alright. I did have a bit of a problem with Max Headroom insisting he wanted to speak (at the beginning) rather than following the format. her answer is lets get the next quesiton asked and you can talk about whatever you want....

you could bithch about that but it makes no difference. folks see what they want to.
HockeyDad Offline
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snowwolf777 wrote:
If they would have had the guts to do that, then I would be an undecided voter today. I'd let 'em both run the country for 4 years. They could have black concert t-shirts - Obama-Romney "No More Pansies" Tour 2013 - then a list of cities and dates below. Dancing



Instead....and no matter who wins....

The concert t-shirt will read "Pansy Nation - 2012" then a list of every city and dates below!
DrafterX Offline
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I liked Romney's comment about the Appology Tour.... I wonder if Obama had t-shirts made for that..?? Think
DrMaddVibe Offline
#79 Posted:
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HockeyDad wrote:
Instead....and no matter who wins....

The concert t-shirt will read "Pansy Nation - 2012" then a list of every city and dates below!



OR


Broke Yer Back Nation 2012
tailgater Offline
#80 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
I just disagree and find what she did perfectly acceptable.


So a moderator of a presidential debate is supposed to insert her own input while the two candidates are discussing a topic? And this input can be completely random, because it's not offered for all facts and figures?

Let's forget that she told Romney to "sit down".
Let's forgive her for allowing the incumbent Obama a full 10% more speaking time.
But to have her interject with "it's in the transcript" is unfair and in fact misleading to JQ Public.

Read the transcript.
The "acts of terror" that Obama spoke about in the Rose Garden were CLEARLY in reference to the 2001 9/11 attacks.


If I write a scathing letter to your boss telling her that "TW loves women to sit on his lap at lunch time", I can't later claim that I sent a letter stating simply that "TW loves women".
Or could I? I mean, it's in the transcript. Verbatim.


DrMaddVibe Offline
#81 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:
So a moderator of a presidential debate is supposed to insert her own input while the two candidates are discussing a topic? And this input can be completely random, because it's not offered for all facts and figures?

Let's forget that she told Romney to "sit down".
Let's forgive her for allowing the incumbent Obama a full 10% more speaking time.
But to have her interject with "it's in the transcript" is unfair and in fact misleading to JQ Public.

Read the transcript.
The "acts of terror" that Obama spoke about in the Rose Garden were CLEARLY in reference to the 2001 9/11 attacks.


If I write a scathing letter to your boss telling her that "TW loves women to sit on his lap at lunch time", I can't later claim that I sent a letter stating simply that "TW loves women".
Or could I? I mean, it's in the transcript. Verbatim.





Well, they are just newscasters...and all they really do is read a Teleprompter...there's a kinship...a bond...a truce that they have with the Kenyan King...he's one of theirs...it's not because they're aligned politically...forget that...it's because of the Teleprompter!

Next election cycle we should go in a different direction for the moderation of Presidential debates...

1st debate - Pee Wee Herman

Vice Presidential debate - a rodeo clown

2nd debate - Jay Leno

3rd debate - Simon Cowell
DrafterX Offline
#82 Posted:
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what about Bobcat Goldthwait..?? Huh
bloody spaniard Offline
#83 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
what about Bobcat verge of breakdown shtick Goldthwait..?? Huh


That's absurd. But if you're going the mental route you might as well choose Emo Pinhead Phillips and Judy Goddess Tenuda with her accordion.

Think
frankj1 Offline
#84 Posted:
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
snowwolf777 #40


May I just inject a town hall forum comment and then move on:

NO YOU MAY NOT, BUT U MAY TAKE TWO UMBRELLA STEPS.

IF U DON'T KNOW THE REFREENCE ASK SOMEONE OVER 60.


If not Mother May I?...how about Giant Steps?

Then again, I'm only 59.
teedubbya Offline
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I think you are all wet Tail and you are letting your bias taint you.

Romney was wrong on the small point and correct on the larget point. pretty simple.

And Romney didn't follow the rules of the debate as agreed upon by both parties. he had no intention to. Neither did obama. obama was just more graceful when asked to. Romney felt the need to be more aggressive.

thats neither good nor bad ... just my opinion. we all have them. Don't mistake yours as fact.
teedubbya Offline
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I'm trying to decide if I should vote for Gary Whatshishead. I hear that a vote for him is really a vote for the Big O though.... at least thats what the internets say.

It was between Gary and Mitt but I think Mitt comes accross as a douche and wears the same flip flops John Kerry does.
HockeyDad Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I'm trying to decide if I should vote for Gary Whatshishead. I hear that a vote for him is really a vote for the Big O though.... at least thats what the internets say.

It was between Gary and Mitt but I think Mitt comes accross as a douche and wears the same flip flops John Kerry does.



Get it over with and just vote for Obama again. Spare us the drama.
ZRX1200 Offline
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James Carville Says 80% Of Democrats Are Politically Clueless

Posted by The Rat RESPECTED DEMOCRAT OPERATIVE SPILLS HIS GUTS ON WHAT HE THINKS OF HIS PARTY

James Carville, Democrat political consultant extraordinaire – and former Bill Clinton campaign manager, has astonishingly come out and said what all good Republicans have known for decades: Not only are most Democrats politically clueless; they’re easily manipulated by the puppet masters of their party as well. Wow. James Freaking Carville. Of all people. Here’s an excerpt, as quoted on Amazon.com:

“Ideologies aren’t all that important. What’s important is psychology.

The Democratic constituency is just like a herd of cows. All you have to do is lay out enough silage and they come running. That’s why I became an operative working with Democrats. With Democrats all you have to do is make a lot of noise, lay out the hay, and be ready to use the ole cattle prod in case a few want to bolt the herd.

Eighty percent of the people who call themselves Democrats don’t have a clue as to political reality.

What amazes me is that you could take a group of people who are hard workers and convince them that they should support social programs that were the exact opposite of their own personal convictions. Put a little fear here and there and you can get people to vote any way you want.

The voter is basically dumb and lazy. The reason I became a Democratic operative instead of a Republican was because there were more Democrats that didn’t have a clue than there were Republicans.

Truth is relative. Truth is what you can make the voter believe is the truth. If you’re smart enough, truth is what you make the voter think it is. That’s why I’m a Democrat. I can make the Democratic voters think whatever I want them to.”

Bingo. I couldn’t have written that for ol’ James any better myself. Truth be told, I’ve always had kind of a love-hate relationship with Carville. While I’ve never agreed with him on much of anything –unless he was commenting on the failures of his party, which unlike most political operatives, he’s not been afraid to do through the years – this is different. This amounts to a total confession of what I define in the right sidebar of this blog as the quintessential “political lie”:

Liberals saying things they know aren’t true for the sole purpose of exploiting the “less-than-informed” for political gain.
frankj1 Offline
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Liberals saying things they know aren’t true for the sole purpose of exploiting the “less-than-informed” for political gain.

you mean like this quote illustrates too?
DrafterX Offline
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It's hard to resist free stuff.... Mellow
rfenst Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I just disagree and find what she did perfectly acceptable.


I think she did the best she could to regain control of two massive egos who couldn't follow the rules. moderating is a far more difficult task than most could ever realize with a real skill-set that few truly have.







(And, I am voting for Romney, so don't think for a moment that my opinion is based on anything but my true opinion unaffected by who I support.)
Brewha Offline
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frankj1 wrote:
Liberals saying things they know aren’t true for the sole purpose of exploiting the “less-than-informed” for political gain.


As opposed to conservatives who don't know what is true, but talk their fool heads of anyway . . . .
ZRX1200 Offline
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I can spell "off".......
Brewha Offline
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I respectfully refuse to participate in a spell off. Now if you want to debate your inference . . . .
rfenst Offline
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tailgater wrote:

Let's forgive her for allowing the incumbent Obama a full 10% more speaking time.


I find that allegation very hard to believe. Got a supporting, credible, authoritative cite?
Brewha Offline
#96 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
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rfenst wrote:
I find that alleged fact very hard to believe. Got a supporting, credible, authoritative cite?


Your sublime wit and cunning are noted.
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#97 Posted:
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Posts: 44,296
Brewha wrote:
As opposed to conservatives who don't know what is true, but talk their fool heads of anyway . . . .

That wasn't my quote, I copied the last line above my comment and posted an indignant reply.
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#98 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,681
DrafterX wrote:
what about Bobcat Goldthwait..?? Huh



He peaked at "Shakes The Clown"...git over it!Anxious
ZRX1200 Offline
#99 Posted:
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Posts: 60,703
Hey Jack don't be so testes.....


I'm just flicking boogers.
Brewha Offline
#100 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,229
frankj1 wrote:
That wasn't my quote, I copied the last line above my comment and posted an indignant reply.


My bad, I stand corrected.
Please view my bitchslap redirected to the appropriate poster (I’m too lazy to do all that reading).

And, say – work in the quote button thing would ya? It’s hard to read when I’ve been drinking . . . .
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