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OK, now that the Democrats have won, what are the plans for the next 4 yrs???
Numismaniac Offline
#51 Posted:
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Hey Vic, edgemucation does not relate to "walking around sense"
Numismaniac Offline
#52 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
That's the only reason I logged in this morning.

This crowd did not disappoint... buncha drama queens.




And this is the only reason you log in? who's the queen!!!

I rarely come to the politics threads as it is mostly a waste of time, but I just felt like provoking some of the so-called brothers here, all I ever see you do is poke at others, maybe you smoke, maybe not, but I will say I have never seen you contribute to the "real brotherhood" here!!!
victor809 Offline
#53 Posted:
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Numismaniac wrote:
Hey Vic, edgemucation does not relate to "walking around sense"


Walking around sense?

And can "walking around sense" calculate the binding coefficient for molecular reactions?
Can "walking around sense" develop programming to run robots and power generators?

"walking around sense" means "I don't understand math" and to revere it is to ignore the fact that all our country's innovations are dependent on technology.
victor809 Offline
#54 Posted:
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Numismaniac wrote:
And this is the only reason you log in? who's the queen!!!

I rarely come to the politics threads as it is mostly a waste of time, but I just felt like provoking some of the so-called brothers here, all I ever see you do is poke at others, maybe you smoke, maybe not, but I will say I have never seen you contribute to the "real brotherhood" here!!!


I've smoked with a number of people here.
How do you define the "real brotherhood"? I didn't know there was a set of rules for participating in the cbid forum... funny, thought it was a forum for a cigar sales website. Didn't realize it was your special club (and you joined in this year!! wow.. they sure set it up early for you).
HockeyDad Offline
#55 Posted:
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Now you know why you haven't received your "Real Brotherhood" jacket yet.
Brewha Offline
#56 Posted:
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Jacket? There are jackets? All I got was a card . . . .
Numismaniac Offline
#57 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
I've smoked with a number of people here.
How do you define the "real brotherhood"? I didn't know there was a set of rules for participating in the cbid forum... funny, thought it was a forum for a cigar sales website. Didn't realize it was your special club (and you joined in this year!! wow.. they sure set it up early for you).




Just about the response I would expect, ..........sorry to inform, but I'm not so self absorbed as others are to think it is just for me,.........and as far as I'm concerned you just lent proof to my point, now I have no more time to waste!
Numismaniac Offline
#58 Posted:
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Numismaniac wrote:
Hey Vic, edgemucation does not relate to "walking around sense"

victor809 Offline
#59 Posted:
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Numismaniac wrote:
Just about the response I would expect, ..........sorry to inform, but I'm not so self absorbed as others are to think it is just for me,.........and as far as I'm concerned you just lent proof to my point, now I have no more time to waste!


Ok... make a random statement suggesting a user "Isn't part of the site brotherhood", refuse to define or explain what you mean, claim victory and run off...

wow, you've learned a lot on how these internet arguments happen in the year you've been here. I almost expect you to claim to be an expert in agriculture next, because you water your lawn.
Brewha Offline
#60 Posted:
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I accept your apology for Numismaniac.
Numismaniac Offline
#61 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Ok... make a random statement suggesting a user "Isn't part of the site brotherhood", refuse to define or explain what you mean, claim victory and run off...

wow, you've learned a lot on how these internet arguments happen in the year you've been here. I almost expect you to claim to be an expert in agriculture next, because you water your lawn.




pretty funny, nah, I had to eat some breakfast, and take some meds, LOL.......

pointing out the obvious from my point of view, just prolly ain't yours, I don't play by normal rules, I guess, hehe.

I'm a maniac,

get it, and if you woulda really been reading anything except the politics thread mostly (which I'm convinced was created later after the site started to give certain folks a place that were "crapping" up the better portion)

I'm allowed my opinion.



Had you read around, really cared, you would know I've been in a drought, don't even care to water, much less care to even "mow", I consider that a "white Man's curse" borne of the desire to control, and make things look a certain way for others, I like a natural look.

I just felt like Phucking with some folks today, having fun yet.
dpnewell Offline
#62 Posted:
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Posts: 7,491
victor809 wrote:
Ok... make a random statement suggesting a user "Isn't part of the site brotherhood", refuse to define or explain what you mean, claim victory and run off...

wow, you've learned a lot on how these internet arguments happen in the year you've been here. I almost expect you to claim to be an expert in agriculture next, because you water your lawn.


If you spent time in some of the other forums, you would know that Numi grows some of his own crops, even his own tobacco. Just say'n.
victor809 Offline
#63 Posted:
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Numismaniac wrote:
pretty funny, nah, I had to eat some breakfast, and take some meds, LOL.......

pointing out the obvious from my point of view, just prolly ain't yours, I don't play by normal rules, I guess, hehe.

I'm a maniac,

get it, and if you woulda really been reading anything except the politics thread mostly (which I'm convinced was created later after the site started to give certain folks a place that were "crapping" up the better portion)


I was around when there was no politics forum. And yes, the common complaint was that people were dragging political fights across all the threads. You can do a search and find a number of requests for the politics forum to be created. Don't worry, we got sure it was completed before you joined.


Quote:

I'm allowed my opinion.

yes you are. And I'm allowed to disparage it. :) (The idea that everyone is allowed their opinion frequently neglects to mention that whether your thoughts/ideas/opinions are valid is completely unrelated to your freedom to express them.

Quote:

Had you read around, really cared, you would know I've been in a drought, don't even care to water, much less care to even "mow", I consider that a "white Man's curse" borne of the desire to control, and make things look a certain way for others, I like a natural look.

I just felt like Phucking with some folks today, having fun yet.


You suffer from a frequent forum malady, I've suffered from it as well in the past. It's the idea that everyone else has seen the same posts you have, or followed every post you've made. I don't usually follow posts about gardens, so I have no idea what you've done with yours.

You're new here, so I guess I have to explain the comment was a reference to pottsie (jpotts) who frequently installed IT systems for various industries and was convinced that this made him an expert in the industry. (the reference would have been "I installed an IT system for a local community college, so I'm an expert in Physics", or something similar. I knew you had a garden reference, hence the mowing of the lawn.
victor809 Offline
#64 Posted:
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dpnewell wrote:
If you spent time in some of the other forums, you would know that Numi grows some of his own crops, even his own tobacco. Just say'n.


sigh...

You've at least been around long enough to have gotten the reference.

dammit... newbies these days.
dpnewell Offline
#65 Posted:
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Posts: 7,491
victor809 wrote:
sigh...

You've at least been around long enough to have gotten the reference.

dammit... newbies these days.


I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make you sigh. Forgiven?
Numismaniac Offline
#66 Posted:
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trust me Vic, I did my intel, and just felt like provoking, as I knew it would work, I suffer from plenty of maladies, but plowed through it to "toy" with you...........



when I tire of playing, I will, hehe
victor809 Offline
#67 Posted:
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Numismaniac wrote:
trust me Vic, I did my intel, and just felt like provoking, as I knew it would work, I suffer from plenty of maladies, but plowed through it to "toy" with you...........



when I tire of playing, I will, hehe


You're trying to "plow" me?

Is that a farmer reference or something? Because despite what some people think on this forum, I don't swing that way.

And even if I did, I'd definitely be the big spoon...

Oh, and I almost forgot... I'm much much much too good looking and charming for you anyway! :)
Numismaniac Offline
#68 Posted:
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nah, I know you aint ghey, hehe. Told you I do my intel,


now you're catching on, though.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#69 Posted:
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victor809 wrote:
Because despite what some people think on this forum, I don't swing that way.




http://www.cigarbid.com/.../posts/618956/Venting--



What a closet queen then!




teedubbya Offline
#70 Posted:
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Posts: 95,637
Numismaniac wrote:
nah, I know you aint ghey, hehe. Told you I do my intel,


now you're catching on, though.


you are trying to find someone that caught the gay?

Oh my
victor809 Offline
#71 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
you are trying to find someone that caught the gay?

Oh my


Numi is trying to switch teams?

The dudes trying to develop the vaccine might be pissed about this.
watchurai Offline
#72 Posted:
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d'oh!
Numismaniac Offline
#73 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
you are trying to find someone that caught the gay?

Oh my





LMAO, TW, you ain't right, like me
Numismaniac Offline
#74 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
http://www.cigarbid.com/FORUM/c/posts/618956/Venting--



What a closet queen then!









nah, only drama.................



victor809 | Quote

yeah... it takes juicy gossip to flush me out. :)
Numismaniac Offline
#75 Posted:
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even fake drama, sucka
Numismaniac Offline
#76 Posted:
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feedin a troll today, Vic, just couldn't help myself
victor809 Offline
#77 Posted:
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Numismaniac wrote:
feedin a troll today, Vic, just couldn't help myself


?DMV?
What's that short-bus doing?
Numismaniac Offline
#78 Posted:
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hehe, I was playing troll fer a little while, but now I need to get my azz up and do sump'n, LOL.


He's prolly busy, or eatin
snowwolf777 Offline
#79 Posted:
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Posts: 4,082
"OK, now that the Democrats have won, what are the plans for the next 4 yrs???"

My turn to play.

1. Print a few trillion more and piss it down various rat holes.

2. Claim the guy who was in the White House the past 4 years left a way, way bigger mess than anyone could have predicted.

3. Start campaigning for 2016.

4. Blame Bush.

5. Try to get Biden's meds balanced so he can be mainstreamed.

6. Remind everyone weekly that "we'" got Bin Laden.

7. Start campaign to make "Love Rollercoaster" the National Anthem.

8. Hold a national contest to decide if Dave Chappelle or Chris Rock will play Obama in the movie.

9. Did I mention blame Bush? Yeah, I already did that one.

10. Blame Bush.

I win! Send me a fiver.

Dancing



drywalldog Offline
#80 Posted:
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HD, he said he was gettin in under your cone, watch his hands.
drywalldog Offline
#81 Posted:
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Denzel is booked to play Obama, dont worry Jack Bauer gets him in the end.
drywalldog Offline
#82 Posted:
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80 was for 50
Brewha Offline
#83 Posted:
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Damn – I didn't what to post on this thread. Where is the any key?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#84 Posted:
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dpnewell
#18 Posted:

"Romney is up by over 1 million votes."

my response was to that point only
calavera Offline
#85 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
Tax the rich... give more free stuff to the poor..... Mellow



Well, that nailed it.




J
chemyst Offline
#86 Posted:
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Gas will double again, to $8/gal.
Debt will go up 50% more to $24T, not down 50% as O promised.
Food will go up another 30%.
Property taxes will rise another 40%.
Nationalization of another major industry, perhaps transportation, oil/gas, or ?
Chronic, high unemployment due to Os policies.

Here's an article:

WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS...

Only in America can a president who inherits a deep recession and whose policies have actually made the effects of that recession worse get re-elected. Only in America can a president who wants the bureaucrats who can’t run the Post Office to micromanage the administration of every American’s health care get re-elected. Only in America can a president who kills Americans overseas who have never been charged or convicted of a crime get re-elected. And only in America can a president who borrowed and spent more than $5 trillion in fewer than four years, plans to repay none of it and promises to borrow another $5 trillion in his second term get re-elected. What’s going on here?

What is going on is the present-day proof of the truism observed by Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, who rarely agreed on anything in public: When the voters recognize that the public treasury has become a public trough, they will send to Washington not persons who will promote self-reliance and foster an atmosphere of prosperity, but rather those who will give away the most cash and thereby create dependency. This is an attitude that, though present in some localities in the colonial era, was created at the federal level by Woodrow Wilson and Theodore Roosevelt, magnified by FDR, enhanced by LBJ, and eventually joined in by all modern-day Democrats and most contemporary Republicans.

Mitt Romney is one of those Republicans. He is no opponent of federal entitlements, and he basically promised to keep them where they are. Where they are is a cost to taxpayers of about $1.7 trillion a year. Under President Obama, however, the costs have actually increased, and so have the numbers of those who now receive them. Half of the country knows this, and so it has gleefully sent Obama back to office so he can send them more federal cash taken from the other half.

It is fair to say that Obama is the least skilled and least effective American president since Jimmy Carter, but he is far more menacing. His every instinct is toward the central planning of the economy and the federal regulation of private behavior. He has no interest in protecting American government employees in harm’s way in Libya, and he never admits he has been wrong about anything. Though he took an oath to uphold the Constitution, he treats it as a mere guideline, whose grand principles intended to guarantee personal liberty and a diffusion of power can be twisted and compromised to suit his purposes. He rejects the most fundamental of American values -- that our rights come from our Creator, and not from the government. His rejection of that leads him to an expansive view of the federal government, which permits it, and thus him, to right any wrong, to regulate any behavior and to tax any event, whether authorized by the Constitution or not, and to subordinate the individual to the state at every turn.

As a practical matter, we are in for very difficult times during Obama’s second term. ObamaCare is now here to stay; so, no matter who you are or how you pay your medical bills, federal bureaucrats will direct your physicians in their treatment of you, and they will see your medical records. As well, Obama is committed to raising the debt of the federal government to $20 trillion. So, if the Republican-controlled House of Representatives goes along with this, as it did during Obama’s first term, the cost will be close to $1 trillion in interest payments every year. As well, everyone’s taxes will go up on. New Year’s Day, as the Bush-era tax cuts will expire then. The progressive vision of a populace dependent on a central government and a European-style welfare state is now at hand.

Though I argued during the campaign that this election was a Hobson’s choice between big government and bigger government, and that regrettably it addressed how much private wealth the feds should seize and redistribute and how much private behavior they should regulate, rather than whether the Constitution permits them to do so, and though I have argued that we have really one political party whose two branches mirror each other’s wishes for war and power, it is unsettling to find Obama back in the White House for another four years. That sinking feeling comes from the knowledge that he is free from the need to keep an eye on the electorate, and from the terrible thought that he may be the authoritarian we have all known and feared would visit us one day and crush our personal freedoms.

Andrew P. Napolitano, a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, is the senior judicial analyst at Fox News Channel. Judge Napolitano has written six books on the U.S. Constitution. His latest is “ It is Dangerous To Be Right When the Government Is Wrong: The Case for Personal Freedom

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/08/four-more-years-what-is-going-on-here/
dpnewell Offline
#87 Posted:
Joined: 03-16-2009
Posts: 7,491
^Ken,
It's just more sour grapes from another right wing wacko. The President has been re-elected. All is right in the world. The next 4 years will be the best this country has ever seen. If you don't believe me, just read all the posts from our dear Liberal friends. Of course, you do realize that if those things really do happen, there will be many here that will continue to bow down and worship at the feet of our President, as they once again blame all our suffering on Bush.
pdxstogieman Offline
#88 Posted:
Joined: 10-04-2007
Posts: 5,219
chemyst wrote:
Gas will double again, to $8/gal.
Debt will go up 50% more to $24T, not down 50% as O promised.
Food will go up another 30%.
Property taxes will rise another 40%.
Nationalization of another major industry, perhaps transportation, oil/gas, or ?
Chronic, high unemployment due to Os policies.

Here's an article:

WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS...

Only in America can a president who inherits a deep recession and whose policies have actually made the effects of that recession worse get re-elected. Only in America can a president who wants the bureaucrats who can’t run the Post Office to micromanage the administration of every American’s health care get re-elected. Only in America can a president who kills Americans overseas who have never been charged or convicted of a crime get re-elected. And only in America can a president who borrowed and spent more than $5 trillion in fewer than four years, plans to repay none of it and promises to borrow another $5 trillion in his second term get re-elected. What’s going on here?

What is going on is the present-day proof of the truism observed by Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton, who rarely agreed on anything in public: When the voters recognize that the public treasury has become a public trough, they will send to Washington not persons who will promote self-reliance and foster an atmosphere of prosperity, but rather those who will give away the most cash and thereby create dependency. This is an attitude that, though present in some localities in the colonial era, was created at the federal level by Woodrow Wilson and Theodore Roosevelt, magnified by FDR, enhanced by LBJ, and eventually joined in by all modern-day Democrats and most contemporary Republicans.

Mitt Romney is one of those Republicans. He is no opponent of federal entitlements, and he basically promised to keep them where they are. Where they are is a cost to taxpayers of about $1.7 trillion a year. Under President Obama, however, the costs have actually increased, and so have the numbers of those who now receive them. Half of the country knows this, and so it has gleefully sent Obama back to office so he can send them more federal cash taken from the other half.

It is fair to say that Obama is the least skilled and least effective American president since Jimmy Carter, but he is far more menacing. His every instinct is toward the central planning of the economy and the federal regulation of private behavior. He has no interest in protecting American government employees in harm’s way in Libya, and he never admits he has been wrong about anything. Though he took an oath to uphold the Constitution, he treats it as a mere guideline, whose grand principles intended to guarantee personal liberty and a diffusion of power can be twisted and compromised to suit his purposes. He rejects the most fundamental of American values -- that our rights come from our Creator, and not from the government. His rejection of that leads him to an expansive view of the federal government, which permits it, and thus him, to right any wrong, to regulate any behavior and to tax any event, whether authorized by the Constitution or not, and to subordinate the individual to the state at every turn.

As a practical matter, we are in for very difficult times during Obama’s second term. ObamaCare is now here to stay; so, no matter who you are or how you pay your medical bills, federal bureaucrats will direct your physicians in their treatment of you, and they will see your medical records. As well, Obama is committed to raising the debt of the federal government to $20 trillion. So, if the Republican-controlled House of Representatives goes along with this, as it did during Obama’s first term, the cost will be close to $1 trillion in interest payments every year. As well, everyone’s taxes will go up on. New Year’s Day, as the Bush-era tax cuts will expire then. The progressive vision of a populace dependent on a central government and a European-style welfare state is now at hand.

Though I argued during the campaign that this election was a Hobson’s choice between big government and bigger government, and that regrettably it addressed how much private wealth the feds should seize and redistribute and how much private behavior they should regulate, rather than whether the Constitution permits them to do so, and though I have argued that we have really one political party whose two branches mirror each other’s wishes for war and power, it is unsettling to find Obama back in the White House for another four years. That sinking feeling comes from the knowledge that he is free from the need to keep an eye on the electorate, and from the terrible thought that he may be the authoritarian we have all known and feared would visit us one day and crush our personal freedoms.

Andrew P. Napolitano, a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, is the senior judicial analyst at Fox News Channel. Judge Napolitano has written six books on the U.S. Constitution. His latest is “ It is Dangerous To Be Right When the Government Is Wrong: The Case for Personal Freedom

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/08/four-more-years-what-is-going-on-here/


Oh yeah, Faux News, the same guys who predicted a Romney win. Extremely credible. good choice of sources.
DrMaddVibe Offline
#89 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,674
pdxstogieman wrote:
Oh yeah, Faux News, the same guys who predicted a Romney win. Extremely credible. good choice of sources.



Fox is LUCKY to have Judge Napolitano on their network.

How easy was that for you to totally dismiss the words of a real honest patriot American only because you politically disagree with the right leaning Fox network?

Talk about a disconnect of critical thinking. Then again, I consider the source.


YEA!!!! Your team won!!!!


Keep on keeping on. Give till they take it all from you. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil...yes...the 2nd term goals were all there for anyone to see. Way to go Obamaphone users...way to go!
bloody spaniard Offline
#90 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
^ Greetings, DMV!


Survival Tip #1 for lame Republican party if they are to rebuild:

Republicans should stand aside or let the majority Democrats run ramshackle over them and pass what they want- NOT fall on the sword for the rich millionaires (tax increase), half of whom voted Democrat anyway.

THEN, the Obama admin & pals can take FULL credit for the wonderful aftermath.ThumpUp

Otherwise, the American people will get mixed signals & blame BOTH parties for what awaits.ThumbDown
DrafterX Offline
#91 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,626
bloody spaniard wrote:
^ Greetings, DMV!


Survival Tip #1 for lame Republican party if they are to rebuild:

Republicans should stand aside or let the majority Democrats run ramshackle over them and pass what they want- NOT fall on the sword for the rich millionaires (tax increase), half of whom voted Democrat anyway.

THEN, the Obama admin & pals can take FULL credit for the wonderful aftermath.ThumpUp

Otherwise, the American people will get mixed signals & blame BOTH parties for what awaits.ThumbDown



sounds like Boner is ready to do just that..... he was prolly bought off tho.... Mellow
chiefburg Offline
#92 Posted:
Joined: 01-31-2005
Posts: 7,384
It doesn't matter what happens in the next four years....the Dems will be reelected either way. America now has more than 50% of the population that wants the government to take care of them and they want the government to take money from those who have earned it and give to those who didn't earn it. Mainstream America has their hand out and want something for nothing.

For those that doubt me, poll your friends and check their response. Better yet, poll our young people (16-30 yrs old) and see what their viewpoint is. You will find very few that claim they should work hard for their money. Most will tell you it is the governments responsibility to care for them. And, most of them voted for Obama and truly believe he is the answer to all their problems. Very few people in that young group even looked at Obama's record to see what he did the last four years. I work with people who say he's done a great job. I ask them to tell what campaign goals from 2008 that he met. I also ask them to tell me what he has accomplished over the four years. Not surprising to me is they can't really say anything other than Bin Laden and Obamacare. I remind them that Obamacare was rammed through and most Reps and Sens claimed they didn't even read it. I also remind them of the fine for not participating in Obamacare and how quickly the Courts changed the "fine" to a "tax." Strangely, they have no issue with any of this. Finally, many of them say he needs another four years to accomplish what he said he would do four years ago.

What's worse, many of those I know who voted for Obama only did so because of one particular issue. Obama got many votes from Hispanics because of he stance on borders. I know some who voted for him simply because of gay and lesbians rights - nothing more. Several others stated they voted for him because he would tax the rich and give it to the middle class. Hmmmmm...... Just look at the responses on this forum from those who voted for him and they can't list anything of true substance that this administration has accomplished in the first four years.... Most of the blacks I work with believe he is truly a great man and the best President this country has seen. And, you can be labeled a racist if you disagree.

I firmly believe America has lost the ability to use critical thinking. Yes, Romney wasn't the answer.....and Obama surely wasn't the answer either.
bloody spaniard Offline
#93 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
LOL@"Boner" (how fitting for that silly, posturing Republican buffoon)


I was talking to my wife this morning (she didn't fully agree with me btw) regarding possible motives for putting Barry back in despite his dismal job performance the past 4 years- aside from his quasi socialist agenda (medical care, free goodies, taxing rich, yada yada).

1. Racism against whitey- brothers (minorities) and other disenfranchised folk (gays, poor regardless of race, etc.) who want to to stick it to the "man" after feeling exploited or excluded from sharing in the pie.

2. Racism against blacky- mostly white folk who feel that the poor "negro" did the best he could for a "negro" considering what a "negro" has to work with and should be given a "negro" mulligan do over till the "negro" gets it right. Poor "negro" never had a chance...
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#94 Posted:
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Buy Lottery Tickets !!
DrMaddVibe Offline
#95 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,674
chiefburg wrote:
It doesn't matter what happens in the next four years....the Dems will be reelected either way. America now has more than 50% of the population that wants the government to take care of them and they want the government to take money from those who have earned it and give to those who didn't earn it. Mainstream America has their hand out and want something for nothing.

For those that doubt me, poll your friends and check their response. Better yet, poll our young people (16-30 yrs old) and see what their viewpoint is. You will find very few that claim they should work hard for their money. Most will tell you it is the governments responsibility to care for them. And, most of them voted for Obama and truly believe he is the answer to all their problems. Very few people in that young group even looked at Obama's record to see what he did the last four years. I work with people who say he's done a great job. I ask them to tell what campaign goals from 2008 that he met. I also ask them to tell me what he has accomplished over the four years. Not surprising to me is they can't really say anything other than Bin Laden and Obamacare. I remind them that Obamacare was rammed through and most Reps and Sens claimed they didn't even read it. I also remind them of the fine for not participating in Obamacare and how quickly the Courts changed the "fine" to a "tax." Strangely, they have no issue with any of this. Finally, many of them say he needs another four years to accomplish what he said he would do four years ago.

What's worse, many of those I know who voted for Obama only did so because of one particular issue. Obama got many votes from Hispanics because of he stance on borders. I know some who voted for him simply because of gay and lesbians rights - nothing more. Several others stated they voted for him because he would tax the rich and give it to the middle class. Hmmmmm...... Just look at the responses on this forum from those who voted for him and they can't list anything of true substance that this administration has accomplished in the first four years.... Most of the blacks I work with believe he is truly a great man and the best President this country has seen. And, you can be labeled a racist if you disagree.

I firmly believe America has lost the ability to use critical thinking. Yes, Romney wasn't the answer.....and Obama surely wasn't the answer either.




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teedubbya Offline
#96 Posted:
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Every generation predicts the end of the country based on looking at the next. Nothing new here other than most of us have changed from walking on the grass to screaming at others not to.

Especially a bunch of old cigar smoking foggies. A dieing breed unfortunately.
bloody spaniard Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Every generation predicts the end of the country based on looking at the next. Nothing new here other than most of us have changed from walking on the grass to screaming at others not to.
Especially a bunch of old cigar smoking foggies. A dieing breed unfortunately.




I say we keep reelecting Obama till he gets it right. What's that got to do with a dying breed of old foagie predicting end times?
Just the opposite, I think his chances of eventually getting it right are probably good.
teedubbya Offline
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Bloody I have no doubt your dad took a look at you and feared for our next generation
bloody spaniard Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Bloody I have no doubt your dad took a look at you and feared for our next generation


Don't be jealous. Green is not becoming.
My dad looked at me & said what a special treasure! Let's hide him in a garment bag so nobody steals him.Blushing
teedubbya Offline
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LOL. Hit me in the laundry room. That way there was a drain there was water and I could work for them
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