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leftyposthole Offline
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Father forgive them for they know not what they doram27bat
dpnewell Offline
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Oh yes, Lefty, they knew exactly what they where doing.

So, God's will or not?

Personally, though I don't like it one bit, I believe this election want exactly as it was fore-ordained to go. Why? Only God knows His plans in all this. I could speculate things like God's judgement on this nation, or for persecution to cleanse and purify the church, but that would just be speculation. As ungodly as Obama seems, his re-election could also have been God's blessing, as we have no idea what really would have happened under Romney.

Still don't like it, and I let my sinful anger get the best of me last night, but spending time repenting and praying through it. May He give us the grace to accept His will, and trust Him through it all.
drywalldog Offline
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Well said Dpnewell, and I agree. You might want to rethink it, because I concur.
teedubbya Offline
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In related news the sky is falling!
bloody spaniard Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
In related news the sky is falling!



No, it was just Sandy. Northeaster on route too after Obama... Who said God doesn't have a sense of humor?? Pray
Brewha Offline
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DAMN! And I left my windows open again!
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I guess I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I know God's will or that he gives a crap one way or another about our little elections and what not here on Earth. I'm thinking he has better things to do. It's kinda like somebody praying for his football team to win on Sunday.
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You would think, wouldn't you?

Some say there's a documented connection between weather & how our Presidents have treated Israel. Whistle
Don't yell at me, I'm only the chicken delivery guy.
teedubbya Offline
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I will have you know that god blessed america. fact.
HockeyDad Offline
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bloody spaniard wrote:
No, it was just Sandy. Northeaster on route too after Obama... Who said God doesn't have a sense of humor?? Pray



"God -damned America!" ~ Reverend Wright
bloody spaniard Offline
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Do you guys remember chicken delivery guys? Back in Flushing (NY), my folks would order from Chicken Supreme as a treat. Drool No KFC or McDonalds around. A couple of years later, we would pile the whole family into the car & get McDonalds for $3 and some change.

Who am I? Why am I here? Where was I... oh yes, the storms, I could buy a squirtgun for 50 cents and still have enough for 3 jawbreakers & a Baby Ruth. FU if you don't believe me.


Ever get the feeling most posts sound like this?
teedubbya Offline
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I heard Rev Wright is a muslim
bloody spaniard Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I heard Rev Wright is a muslim


Think
No, I'm pretty sure he hates light complected arabs too. Hell, he looks like a light complected arab. Scratch that.d'oh!
teedubbya Offline
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where is the big bopper when we need him to sort things out?
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teedubbya wrote:
where is the big bopper when we need him to sort things out?



By the size of that plane crash...you're gonna have to sort HIM out!
teedubbya Offline
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
By the size of that plane crash...you're gonna have to sort HIM out!


Got kicked out of the Surf Ballroom once....on RAGBRAI. Actually my buddy did and I was his wingman. He kept passing out on the bar.

I stopped to get hot tamales out of the vending machine on the way out (who wouldn't?) and he disappeared. Had to sleep on someones porch (with astroturf) to avoid a thunderstorm (tornado sirens and everything). I couldn't leave him or his bicycle behind.

At around 6 in the morning he showed up. Turns out he got arrested for peeing in the street and didn't see the cops. We then rode to our campsite, ate breakfast, made bloody mary's and started our next day's journey.... about 70 miles to some godforsaken town.

It was great fun.
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drywalldog wrote:
Well said Dpnewell, and I agree. You might want to rethink it, because I concur.


We may be at opposite ends of the political spectrum, but that does not mean we can't agree on certain points.
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JadeRose wrote:
I guess I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I know God's will or that he gives a crap one way or another about our little elections and what not here on Earth. I'm thinking he has better things to do. It's kinda like somebody praying for his football team to win on Sunday.


No, this is not even close to the same thing as praying for your football team to win. The Bible says that God appoints our leaders for His purpose. Paul says in Romans 13:1 "Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God." Peter says in I Peter 2:13 - 16 "Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or the governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God."

Peter wrote this around the mid 60's AD after the Roman Emperor Nero had started his persecution of Christians. Only folks full of God’s Spirit could willingly subject themselves to a political leader who would seek to imprison and kill them. Nero would prove to be the “Hitler” of his time. We Western Christians have had it easy, and have no idea what it cost many of our brothers and sisters to follow Jesus. We’re afraid of offending, or think persecution is someone laughing at us, or implying that we’re backward or ignorant. Many willingly gave their lives to be named with Christ.

Back to the point. We are to acknowledge that God put our leaders in power, for His purpose, whether it be for His judgement on a nation, His blessing, purging of His church, or anything else He has in mind. This does not mean that we blindly follow a leader when he goes against God's law. As Christians we are to obey God first, and our leaders second.

All through this election, I have prayed that God would replace Obama with a man of moral character, but not my will, but His be done. Last night, when God had His say, I rebelled in sinful anger. I was angry that the one whom I thought, in my flawed wisdom would be God's choice had lost, and I was angry at those whom I assumed voted for Obama out of sinful greed, and hatred for God's law. I cried out like Asaph in the 73rd Psalm, "Lord why do the wicked prosper?" This was a heinous sin of "self-righteousness" on my part, as my motives where just as evil, if not more so then anyone else's. Apart from God's grace, I know in my corrupt heart, that I am capable of the most horrendous crimes against both God and man. Praise God for His sustaining grace, as left to myself, I could be numbered with the worse this world has ever seen. I apologize to all, whom, when in a fit of sinful anger, I accused of greed and stupidity.

God has convicted me of my prideful sin and rebellion. I am to accept Obama as the leader God placed in power at this particular time, to accomplish His purposes. When his policies spit in the face of God, and God's law, I can be vocal, criticize and fight against them without sin, and even support legal means to replace him, but I must still respect him as our leader, and am commanded to pray for him.

I am a weak man, and know that I may fail many times and lash out in anger, but I pray that God's grace, and the reminder of this post will keep me in check. It's going to take tremendous grace for me to actually hit the "post" button, as I know that once I post this, I can not go back to my old ways. I also understand that many Christians may disagree with what I've said here, and some may be offended, but I must do, what I must do. May God give me the courage.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
You would think, wouldn't you?

Some say there's a documented connection between weather & how our Presidents have treated Israel. Whistle
Don't yell at me, I'm only the chicken delivery guy.


You need to change your avatar to a likeness of Pat Robertson to make those kind of statements.
pdxstogieman Offline
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Rub a dub dub

Three Cheers for the grub

Yay God!
leftyposthole Offline
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Well said Dave, That is the joy of the glorious salvation of Jesus Christ, His spirit gives us strength, courage, and humility. You, or we, will be mocked and laughed at for what we believe, but until Christ saved my wreched, sinful soul I did not know such freedom and peace existed. As I stated many will scoff and call you weak for what you wrote but only with God's grace could you have done that. Deep down in their hearts they will respect the courage it took to say what you said. I only wish, as Paul said in Romans that all would come to know the saving grace of Jesus Christ and the joy and peace that comes with that. However a simple analogy I have used many times is this, If Safeway has a can of peaches on sale the sale price is there for everyone, however not everyone will take advantage it. Its just that simple. God loves you brother for taking a couragious stand and so do I.

Lefty
victor809 Offline
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If Obama winning was god's will... does that mean you guys voted against god?
HockeyDad Offline
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It was God's will that they voted against God's will. Stop trying to over-complicate it.
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HockeyDad wrote:
It was God's will that they voted against God's will. Stop trying to over-complicate it.


Ahhh...

god wanted them to be on the losing team. ok.

That god guy's kinda a ****** sometimes, eh?
HockeyDad Offline
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victor809 wrote:
That god guy's kinda a ****** sometimes, eh?


No, no....but She does have a wicked sense of humor.
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HockeyDad wrote:
No, no....but She does have a wicked sense of humor.


I'll give you that....
teedubbya Offline
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it's god's will that we will fail as a country. it is gods will that I make every attempt to avoid this by voting for romney. but she has spoken and we are destined to fail despite my attempt. now I must have faith that gods will will prevail.
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Dammit TW, you voted for Romney? And here I thought Doc was the kiss of death for whom ever he voted for, but it could have been you!
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drywalldog wrote:
Dammit TW, you voted for Romney? And here I thought Doc was the kiss of death for whom ever he voted for, but it could have been you!



Le Hockey Dad told me I had to vote for obama and I hate it when people tell me what to do. he also mentioned something about reverse psycology but I haven't had a chance to look that up yet.

In related news the placebos you sent cured my erectile disfunction and taste remarkably like hot tamales. It's a shame they are suppositories
drywalldog Offline
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I understand the whole reverse psych thing, I votee for Romney too.
pdxstogieman Offline
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I think what he was really trying to say was that it was God's swill
Brewha Offline
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God drinks?
teedubbya Offline
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Brewha wrote:
God drinks?


He does now. He bet everything he had on Romney.
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Ha, ha, laugh it up, folks. People laughed at Noah for over a hundred years, until the floods wiped them out (and no, I'm not claiming to be Noah or any other prophet). I may be wrong, but it looks to me like the storm clouds are gathering. Best get under God's cone of protection while you still can. Just say'n.

Lefty, too bad we live so far apart, as it would be awesome to sit down and have a smoke with you.
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let me get this straight... The election results are God's will, but you're convinced the gods will is now causing storm clouds to gather... All I can assess from this is that your God wants to destroy somethin
teedubbya Offline
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I know more what god wants than you do anyway.

Signed

His humble servant
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victor809 wrote:
let me get this straight... The election results are God's will, but you're convinced the gods will is now causing storm clouds to gather... All I can assess from this is that your God wants to destroy somethin


Yes, the President being re-elected was for God's purpose, whatever that may be. I never once claimed that I knew what that purpose is. As I said in my posts, it could be to bless this nation, and it could be for the purpose of destroying this nation. I personally feel it's the later, but I'd be a fool to claim that I know the mind of God, and believe me, I hope he uses the President to once again bless this nation. But that's OK, if you folks want to ignore what I actually wrote, and twist it to fit what you want it to say, go right ahead. No skin off my back.

George wants to go outside. Grabbing an MB 3 and joining him, so blast away.
teedubbya Offline
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I think god wants to destroy this nation.
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JadeRose wrote:
I guess I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I know God's will or that he gives a crap one way or another about our little elections and what not here on Earth. I'm thinking he has better things to do. It's kinda like somebody praying for his football team to win on Sunday.


He gave us free will. This is what people did with it. There are lessons for us to learn every day. It is just going to be a little colder and a little darker as we continue to make our way.
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God cares more for the rightous people in a country,than the name of a country.
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drywalldog wrote:
God cares more for the rightous people in a country,than the name of a country.


Wow, we agree again. This is getting scary. Too many falsely believe that America = Christian = God's chosen nation. Can't deny the fact that God has blessed this nation, but He can remove His blessing just as fast. Also many believe that Republican = Christian, another fallacy.

Heard recently that Christianity is now growing big time in China. Something to ponder.
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teedubbya wrote:
I know more what god wants than you do anyway.

Signed

His humble servant


Wow, congrates dude, awesome.
JadeRose Offline
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Wow...some folks need a bj and a bong hit.



Best place to get a bj? Yep.....church
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JadeRose wrote:
I guess I'm not arrogant enough to believe that I know God's will .......


Now that is an interesting statement.

Is it possible that each man knows God in his own way?
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Why do the folks on the left side of the aisle not get it. They are surely intelligent enough to see that Christianity is exploding in many former communist countrys or why the Cuban community in Miami generally votes rebublican. They know first hand what its like to live under the oppression of a socialist/communist government. It does not work folks, please take your blinders off.
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I'd have to look closer but it looks like the Cuban American vote in Florida broke for Obama.

I don't really think god prefers either of our parties or despite the rhetoric in here either party is against freedom and for oppression.

Shrug
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Brewha wrote:
Now that is an interesting statement.

Is it possible that each man knows God in his own way?



I like to picture Jesus as a figure skater. He wears like a white outfit, and He does interpretive ice dances of my life's journey.
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HockeyDad wrote:
I like to picture Jesus as a figure skater. He wears like a white outfit, and He does interpretive ice dances of my life's journey.

Morphine drip?
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leftyposthole wrote:
Why do the folks on the left side of the aisle not get it. They are surely intelligent enough to see that Christianity is exploding in many former communist countrys or why the Cuban community in Miami generally votes rebublican. They know first hand what its like to live under the oppression of a socialist/communist government. It does not work folks, please take your blinders off.

So you want a theocracy?
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Brewha wrote:
Morphine drip?



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