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So I was randomly thinking about this the other day and something occurred to me that kinda ticked me off.

Why would "It's not the guns, it's the killers" be an acceptable answer for doing nothing?

Seriously... The end result will be the same whether the gun violence is related to guns or not.

If you TRULY believe that gun violence is a natural phenomenon, then why aren't you demanding the scientists find a solution? We demand technological solutions to millions of natural things all the time.... from bridges and ferries to get vehicles across water, to cancer cures to vaccines and antibiotics.

If this "natural cycle" answer was anything other than a bs answer to avoid explaining why you don't want to have gun regulations, then you'd be trying to get someone with brains to find a solution, not just shrugging it off.

** Standard disclaimer, I don't care about gun laws, don't care about the life-span of the NRA past the next 50 years (my expected lifespan) I just get irritated when people give stupid answers to things. Just say you don't care... I'm fine with that.






Sorry, Victor.

Keep prescribing more and more anti-depressants & it won't matter how many types of "guns" you outlaw.
Most of the shooters were hopped up on prescription goodies.

Gunpowder will be next, followed by arsenic, radioactive isotopes, and running with scissors with intent to maim.


Not to sound too Victorish, er, partikoolar but can you give us more options?

I find this whole liberal hyperventallation about gun violence both funny and sad.

First, liberals are the first to tell us that between conception and birth, what grows in a woman's womb is nothing but "tissue." It;s not human.

Now we have people in places like Oxford questioning whether you're actually human once you're born.

And if you're old and sick, well, euthanasia is more than acceptable. We starve "braid dead" people even though there are people willing to put up their money and time to care for these individuals.

Then these same people lecture us about how there is no God, and how morality is all "relative."

They were the same people who stamped their feet for no-fault divorce, so they could cut their ties with their spouse whenever some new, fresh tail comes long, or when they feel the need to go "find themselves." Nevermind what it does to their kids.

And then they wonder openly why - after destroying the traditional moral structure, the ever-present family unit that reinforces these moral views, and the nothin that human life is sacred - people become unhinged and kill little children.

If mommy and daddy didn't give a crap about you enough to keep the family together, you're constantly told that the most innocent, and helpless of us are just "tissue", and you're then told that there is no God looking over your shoulder and that there will be a price to pay once you die...well, there's no limiting the horrors you can inflict on others.




I think modern-day liberals have de-evolved. It would explain a lot.

I blame the communists....

Leave Rickamaven and Adroomi out of this!

So you’re into that band from the ‘80’s?

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Pot meet kettle

I'll admit, I've missed that.

Would it be true to suggest that most NRA-ers believe that gun violence is NOT a problem? At least not a big enough problem for society to do anything about? If so, OK...but then I wish they'd just say that.

I think we need to find a valid solution to the problem before we do anything... yes, there is a problem.. but it takes a finger to pull trigger..

I think it is that less than 1% of the deaths in this country are attributed to guns.

Anyone who has been bullied and worked their way through it realizes that usually violence and force can only be counered by greater violence and force in the opposite direction.

But taking guns away from people who have never commited a crime really solves nothing. And it really doesn't save any lives.

When I was growing up, the drinking age was 21. Yet I can tell you that on any given weekend, at least a quarter of my high school class was out getting hammered.

And this was well before the "brew your own" fad.

So...uh...the opposite response didn't work either.

Next suggestion?

Wait – are you against the NRA or teen drinking?
Because if you are against the NRA drinking you really have a long row to hoe . . . .

Your juxtaposition of "ass" and "genital warts" makes me think you've got something on your.... mind.

Why do you keep putting the word gun in front of the word violence...?

I suppose that is a good question. That is what I've extracted from the media noise lately.

What is the correct name of the primary issue that the talking heads and politicians are 'discussing' lately?

Victor is not a hoe.

Or at least he's never 'fessed up to being one. However, some have seen him out on the street corner in high heels and spandex pants...

1000's of murders in this country since the Kenyan has been in office and NOW it's a priority, gimme a friggin break! Look at his home town of Chicago, those chillens don't count ?

Anytime someone commits violence or murder with a gun, the media and politicians like to use the labels "gunman" or "gun violence". Ever heard of a knife murderer called a "knifeman"? Ever heard of a "baseball batman", a "fistman", a "poisonman", a "bombman"? Ever heard the media talk of "knife violence", "club violence", "bomb violence" or "poison violence"?

The media and politicians have an agenda, and those who don't see it are either blind or naive. Maybe you folks need to start asking yourselves why when someone commits murder or violence with a gun, the tool used is demonized by the media, but when other deadly tools are used, the blame is placed on the actor, not the tool used.

No, Dave, this country has a problem with violence, period! To single out violence committed with one kind of tool, and then demonizing it above all other forms of violence, while placing blame on the tool itself is hypocritical. Murder is murder whether it's committed by someone using a gun, knife, bat, club, rope, bomb, car, etc. This country needs to be addressing the causes of all violence, not singling out one kind, and having knee jerk reactions.

No, gun violence is fake. Nobody dies from guns, it's all an illusion.


Liberal media, and all that.

You totally ignored my point, but I really didn't expect any less.

I'll have you know that Neil Young got awfully rich and famous of of being able to play one note through most of his songs.