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City of Detroit Files for Bankruptcy
bloody spaniard Offline
#51 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
you project onto others..... who is gloating? not me. inward my friend inward.

That's why I said seemingly clueless- I can only read your words.
teedubbya Offline
#52 Posted:
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when have I ever gloated? *shrug*
DrafterX Offline
#53 Posted:
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teedubbya wrote:
when have I ever gloated? *shrug*



you seemed awfully happy about kicking louie-dog this morning... Mad
teedubbya Offline
#54 Posted:
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I've never wished anyone in here would lose their job or part of their income. I've never been happy about it when they do.... it doesn't gain me anything.... it is small.

I do take pride in what I do but shouldn't we all....if not we should change what we do.... if we can.
bloody spaniard Offline
#55 Posted:
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Whoa! You added words... lol

It's not just MY situation, it's the country's, Europe's, and the world's.
In case you hadn't noticed, it's burning & breaking apart. Drafter's full of frybread & too busy to notice but I expect more from you.
teedubbya Offline
#56 Posted:
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meh double posts and slow edits.....
teedubbya Offline
#57 Posted:
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Whoa! You added words... lol

It's not just MY situation, it's the country's, Europe's, and the world's.
In case you hadn't noticed, it's burning & breaking apart. Drafter's full of frybread & too busy to notice but I expect more from you.


you make a lot of assumptions about what other people notice and don't notice...... so ten years ago I would have noticed more when I wasn't so clueless LOL weird little landmark you use to define things.
teedubbya Offline
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It seems to me my only option is to quit my job LOL for the good of society
teedubbya Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
you seemed awfully happy about kicking louie-dog this morning... Mad



funny part drafter (and really cool).... the rest of the run he kept looking up at me (for direction) and I'd pet him each time. We got to the point I could use hand signals to keep him from getting distracted by other runners.
bloody spaniard Offline
#60 Posted:
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You're teetering uncontrollably- get a grip.
9/11/01 changed everything

No, the option is to cut Government by more than half, same with pensions, salaries, install term limits, etc. until a viable remedy can be found. Don't take offense but we are broke and can't afford you (meaning this much Government) any longer. In fact, every frickin' broke city and jurisdiction seems to be bloated with 6 figure paper shufflers that shriek & scurry for cover when found out.
DrafterX Offline
#61 Posted:
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poor Bloody... the gubment has obviously screwed him somehow somewhere..... Sad
bloody spaniard Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
poor Bloody... the gubment has obviously screwed him somehow somewhere..... Sad


I'm not worried about you. You've got your hands full with sliced beef, fries, and the fat police. Don't have room for much cogent thought. lol
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I'm not worried about me either Bloody.. but I'm a little worried about you... you seem to unhappy gubment contracts aren't available to you because of the size of your company and blame that on lack of money due to the size of the gubment... so basically you're mad because you aren't getting your piece of the pie... there is a private sector you know... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
#64 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I'm not worried about me either Bloody.. but I'm a little worried about you... you seem to unhappy gubment contracts aren't available to you because of the size of your company and blame that on lack of money due to the size of the gubment... so basically you're mad because you aren't getting your piece of the pie... there is a private sector you know... Mellow


Do you listen to yourself? The private sector is made up of small companies like mine. The majority of businesses ARE small businesses (50 emp. or less). I will have a second one shortly. How many do you have?

There is a huge and ever increasing gap between the haves and have nots. I don't think you get that. The Government is paid by us and since we can't afford it, they shouldn't be among the insulated class. THAT is my problem. Not whether we do much business with the bureucracy. That's ancient history. We've had to adapt and make do just as you will some day. Then perhaps your powers of empathy shall improve. LOL
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bloody spaniard wrote:
There is a huge and ever increasing gap between the haves and have nots.



Just be a "HAVE". Gosh this is so simple. I never can figure out why people chose to be "have nots:".
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I'm well aware of the problems... I try to take care and prepare for the worst... I'd like to see a balanced budget and stuff but I think there's other ways to achieve that besides taking TW's retirment from him... I dunno man... blame the dudes not doing anything for their money... Mellow
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DrafterX wrote:
I'm well aware of the problems... I try to take care and prepare for the worst... I'd like to see a balanced budget and stuff but I think there's other ways to achieve that besides taking TW's retirment from him... I dunno man... blame the dudes not doing anything for their money... Mellow


bloody spaniard wrote:

9/11/01 changed everything

No, the option is to cut Government by more than half, same with pensions, salaries, install term limits, etc. until a viable remedy can be found. Don't take offense but we are broke and can't afford you (meaning this much Government) any longer. In fact, every frickin' broke city and jurisdiction seems to be bloated with 6 figure paper shufflers that shriek & scurry for cover when found out.


I like TW too but at some point we have to make the harder decisions. We (meaning small business) took and continue to take a deficit bite, now it's the Government's (Federal and state) turn. Simple. They've tied our hands when it comes to capitalism & be "HAVES", well, now they can partake in the Circus Maximus like the rest of us. Those people exempt themselves from Obamacare & SS. End that as well.

No double dippers or lifetime retirements after an early retirement either. Wait for normal retirement like everyone else.
Elect me & Ill close their bennies shop fast.
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If you were elected you'd just become part of the problem.... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
If you were elected you'd just become part of the problem.... Mellow

Not if I eliminated my job I wouldn't.
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Think
bloody spaniard Offline
#71 Posted:
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Here, sit down so you don't get dizzy.
You get elected & then set term limits= eliminate job when term ends. Voila. This is all hypothetical, right? Ok.
rfenst Online
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It is too late to fix much if any of this. This is the ultimate consequence of decades and decades of economic/business/industrial decay. Detroit is so strongly tied to non-adaptable production/the heaviest industry this country had, and is a forerunner of what major segments and areas of our country can expect without changes in its structure. It is also too large to ever turn around or succeed in a meaningful way and in the long-run. It was once so very great, but is now on life support. Bankruptcy is just another step along the way.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Here, sit down so you don't get dizzy.
You get elected & then set term limits= eliminate job when term ends. Voila. This is all hypothetical, right? Ok.



ya.. that all sounds good and stuff but it wouldn't be long till you misplaced your skrupple and started sticking to the little dudes... Not talking
bloody spaniard Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
ya.. that all sounds good and stuff but it wouldn't be long till you misplaced your skrupple and started sticking to the little dudes... Not talking

You don't trust people, do you? I think I have enough scruples to say NO and walk away. I've done that quite a few times. Money, power, and celebrity are not my gods. Now, where's my Guy Fawkes mask? lol
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DrafterX wrote:
ya.. that all sounds good and stuff but it wouldn't be long till you misplaced your skrupple and started sticking to the little dudes... Not talking



I would probably lobby him to do just that. (there's good money in lobbying!)
teedubbya Offline
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I'd probably just gloat and stuff
Gene363 Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Damn you George Bush!


He he he, nope it's the republicans. Delusional idiots are blaming Republicans for the downfall of Detroit. Sometimes it feels like we're living in Bizarro World.

"MSNBC’s Melissa Harris-Perry put forth a theory as to why Detroit inevitably went bankrupt — terminal lack of government."

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/07/19/melissa-harris-perrys-delusional-analysis-of-bankrupt-detroit/
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Damn you George Bush!



Decay started way before George Bush. Just one municipality that couldn't find a way to entice other industries to replace the automotive industry.
bloody spaniard Offline
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SweetHavok wrote:
Decay started way before George Bush. Just one municipality that couldn't find a way to entice other industries to replace the automotive industry.


Idiots should have found a perpetual panhandling industry like Washington, DC did.
itsawaldo Offline
#80 Posted:
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Wait until Illinois files!

Now that will be fun.
rfenst Online
#81 Posted:
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itsawaldo wrote:
Wait until Illinois files!

Now that will be fun.


Filing isn't the problem; the circumstances that lead to or require it are.
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itsawaldo wrote:
Wait until Illinois files!

Now that will be fun.


Filing isn't the problem; the circumstances that lead to or require it are.
teedubbya Offline
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Blood I have no doubt if you were elected president you could change some of those things primarily because they have already changed (in the 70s and 80s) and are no longer true. I know folks have tried to splain that to you in the past but you don't want to know. It would get in the way of your blind outrage. Mentally you are living several decades ago.

If it makes you feel better I am not exempt from social security and it is one of the base peices of my retirement (although just like everyone else it probably will not be there).

I will never be able to double dip. Retirement is too far away for me to be exact but it will be in my upper 60s or lower 70s. With my health condition I will likely never make it. Even if I did go early it would just mean 401 rollover like when I left the private sector. Double dip is largely gone. You are probable referencing old timers but attrition and death will take care of that in short order.

The other main component of my retirement is a 401k look alike (tsp) I contribute to just like folks with their 401. It is generous but exactly like the one I had in the private sector in all ways including contributions.

There is a tiny pension. To be honest I couldn't tell you exactly what it is but it's small enough you can take it if you want. It truly is insignificant. Had I stayed in my previous position in the private sector I would have had a much nicer one.

I won't go in to my health care benefits other than to tell you my wife and I both work. I am covered under her family benefits. In normal cases I could have secondary coverage through my employer. In my case I can not. Therefore I pay zero, they pay zero, and there are no health benefits tied to my employment. If she lost her job they would become available to me and I would pay more premium (as a percent of premium and and absolute amount) then I did in my previous 2 positions in the private sector.

I've always said if the task isn't necessary (or desired or affordable) get rid of it and the employee. That is a problem with the government. That also involves logic and strategy.

You come accros as petty, small, vindictive, and jealous. When I say you project and need to look inward I'm referencing things like you accusing folks of gloating. I've never gloated about my job. To me it isn't much different than any other position I've held or will hold and I don't find it anything to gloat about. Yes I'm proud of what I do and happy/lucky to have a job. By viewing anything I've said as gloating I'd suggest shows your jealousy. And trust me there is nothing to be jealous about. I truly mean that. I am likely to return to my previous path in the private sector before too long for quite a few reasons I won't include here.

Meh. Take it or leave it but its hard to take you all that seriously I'll never change your mind because that's not possible and you have no interest in it.

I wish you well and pray for many lucrative contracts for you, governmental or otherwise. It's unfortunate you can not say the same. Maybe some day a light will click on.
bloody spaniard Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Blood I have no doubt if you were elected president you could change some of those things primarily because they have already changed (in the 70s and 80s) and are no longer true. I know folks have tried to splain that to you in the past but you don't want to know. It would get in the way of your blind outrage. Mentally you are living several decades ago.

If it makes you feel better I am not exempt from social security and it is one of the base peices of my retirement (although just like everyone else it probably will not be there).

I will never be able to double dip. Retirement is too far away for me to be exact but it will be in my upper 60s or lower 70s. With my health condition I will likely never make it. Even if I did go early it would just mean 401 rollover like when I left the private sector. Double dip is largely gone. You are probable referencing old timers but attrition and death will take care of that in short order.

The other main component of my retirement is a 401k look alike (tsp) I contribute to just like folks with their 401. It is generous but exactly like the one I had in the private sector in all ways including contributions.

There is a tiny pension. To be honest I couldn't tell you exactly what it is but it's small enough you can take it if you want. It truly is insignificant. Had I stayed in my previous position in the private sector I would have had a much nicer one.

I won't go in to my health care benefits other than to tell you my wife and I both work. I am covered under her family benefits. In normal cases I could have secondary coverage through my employer. In my case I can not. Therefore I pay zero, they pay zero, and there is no health benefits tied to my employment. If she lost her job they would become available to me and I would pay more premium (as a percent of premium and and absolute amount) then I did in my previous 2 positions in the private sector.

I've always said if the task isn't necessary (or desired or affordable) get rid of it and the employee. That is a problem with the government. That also involves logic and strategy.

You come accros as petty, small, vindictive, and jealous. When I say you project and need to look inward I'm referencing things like you accusing folks of gloating. I've never gloated about my job. To me it isn't much different than any other position I've held or will hold and I don't find it anything to gloat about. Yes I'm proud of what I do and happy/lucky to have a job. By viewing anything I've said as gloating I'd suggest shows your jealousy. And trust me there is nothing to be jealous about. I truly mean that. I am likely to return to my previous path in the private sector before too long for quite a few reasons I won't include here.

Meh. Take it or leave it but its hard to take you all that seriously bill never change your mind because that's not possible and you have no interest in it.

I wish you well and pray for many lucrative contracts for you, governmental or otherwise. It's unfortunate you can not say the same. Maybe some day a light will click on.


I just skimmed over your strange post. Appears things fester with you. Guilt? I have my issues that's for sure but I would respectfully suggest you get help with your obsessiveness. Try letting things go, Tommy Boy. You come across as a mentally ill.

I merely said Government should be cut by at least half and I stand by that. We are becoming a country of clueless paper shufflers, litigants, and dependents while the rest of us worker ants get screwed by the system & pay for it all.
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You know me better than that blood, and you obviously did not read or consider the post very well. Your anger flips on and you react without much depth. You are predictable if nothing else.

There is nothing festering here, I just retread the thread while eating lunch and replied off the top of my head.

And if you read the thread yourself you will realize you said more than you claim.
teedubbya Offline
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Mentally Ill. Lol. That's an old standby for you when you are angry.
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^ Your inability to let things go speaks droves...

TW, I really don't feel jealousy towards you, my friend. You have a cross to bear, but the austerity that occurred in Greece, Spain, Ireland, and other countries will happen here as well. There's nothing you or other self-serving folks can do about it. We are broke and don't even care to revive the open market which is on life support. You can't or won't see that as long as life is good for you. Well I got news for you, there's a different world outside your ivory government issue walls. Trust me. LOL
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Blood I don't have a problem letting things go. My history in here bears that out. That's just a convienience of the moment thing for you. I just retread the thread and responded. But if you need to beleive that go for it. Why should you not make up stuff to fill in the gaps to support what you want to beleive. You get more agitated and invested in things in here than I ever have or will. Deep down in in places you don't like to talk about at parties you know that to be true. Lol

As for govt spending I'm with you. Whatever the percentage lets trim the fat and get rid of duties and employees that are not needed. No one should be off the table and let's use logic to do so.

I've spent much more time in the private sector than I have the public sector and am mortified by some of the things I've seen in both. Meh.

Go drink a Cuba libra and relax. Ill go drink a menudo flavored ale and do the same. As I've always told you blood nothing in here is worth getting worked up over and nothing in here gets under my skin. You should take the advice I've given you for years. Lol. (You know I'm right)

You are you and I yam what I yam.

bloody spaniard Offline
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I've forgotten it all already- see?Herfing

You ARE very sensible about many things I must admit.
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Cbid beer summit in here now?


I ate Carne Asada in Z's honor last night.
bloody spaniard Offline
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Cbid beer summit in here now?
I ate Carne Asada in Z's honor last night.



NEVER! We will be enemies for life! Ready to load weapons and fire at 20 paces.Cursing

Carne Asada- that was TW's Puerto Rican pet name.
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If Bloody gets elected he'll end up living in Swtizerland with Serpico.... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
If Bloody gets elected he'll end up living in Swtizerland with Serpico.... Mellow


Is that where he ended up?
Funny 'cause I loved that movie. Kinda looked like the poster too, back in the day, with my beard and long hair.
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Did you have a sheep puppy-dog too..?? Huh
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sd72 wrote:
Detroit would fall into the Detroit river.

Chicago would fall into Lake Michigan.

Did you graduate HS??


He did graduate. The top of his class.................... in texas.
bloody spaniard Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
Did you have a sheep puppy-dog too..?? Huh


No. Had a black cat. Called her Blacky or Negra. She was tough but she was fair like Serpico.Beer
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teedubbya wrote:

I will never be able to double dip. Retirement is too far away for me to be exact but it will be in my upper 60s or lower 70s. With my health condition I will likely never make it.



Ummm...a severe case of chafing from all that fence-straddling is not what one would call a "health condition"...
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bloody spaniard Offline
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jpotts wrote:
Ummm...a severe case of chafing from all that face-straddling is not what one would call a "health condition"...
...


Think
I don't know, jpotts. He may have a case, especially if he files in San Francisco.
teedubbya Offline
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jpotts wrote:
Ummm...a severe case of chafing from all that fence-straddling is not what one would call a "health condition"...
...



it does when the seeping harbors bacteria and fungus and the resulting infection causes swamp ass
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teedubbya wrote:
it does when the seeping harbors bacteria and fungus and the resulting infection causes swamp ass



Wow, sounds like the recovery from my polinidal (sp:?) cyst surgery...except without the "swamp" attached to it...
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