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Four in 5 Americans Face Near-poverty, No Work Under Obama
jackconrad Offline
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Sunday, 28 Jul 2013 02:57 PM



Four out of 5 U.S. adults struggle with joblessness, near-poverty or reliance on welfare for at least parts of their lives, a sign of deteriorating economic security and an elusive American dream.

Survey data exclusive to The Associated Press points to an increasingly globalized U.S. economy, the widening gap between rich and poor, and the loss of good-paying manufacturing jobs as reasons for the trend.

The findings come as President Barack Obama tries to renew his administration's emphasis on the economy, saying in recent speeches that his highest priority is to "rebuild ladders of opportunity" and reverse income inequality.

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As nonwhites approach a numerical majority in the U.S., one question is how public programs to lift the disadvantaged should be best focused — on the affirmative action that historically has tried to eliminate the racial barriers seen as the major impediment to economic equality, or simply on improving socioeconomic status for all, regardless of race.

Hardship is particularly growing among whites, based on several measures. Pessimism among that racial group about their families' economic futures has climbed to the highest point since at least 1987. In the most recent AP-GfK poll, 63 percent of whites called the economy "poor."

"I think it's going to get worse," said Irene Salyers, 52, of Buchanan County, Va., a declining coal region in Appalachia. Married and divorced three times, Salyers now helps run a fruit and vegetable stand with her boyfriend but it doesn't generate much income. They live mostly off government disability checks.

"If you do try to go apply for a job, they're not hiring people, and they're not paying that much to even go to work," she said. Children, she said, have "nothing better to do than to get on drugs."

While racial and ethnic minorities are more likely to live in poverty, race disparities in the poverty rate have narrowed substantially since the 1970s, census data show. Economic insecurity among whites also is more pervasive than is shown in the government's poverty data, engulfing more than 76 percent of white adults by the time they turn 60, according to a new economic gauge being published next year by the Oxford University Press.

The gauge defines "economic insecurity" as a year or more of periodic joblessness, reliance on government aid such as food stamps or income below 150 percent of the poverty line. Measured across all races, the risk of economic insecurity rises to 79 percent.

Marriage rates are in decline across all races, and the number of white mother-headed households living in poverty has risen to the level of black ones.

"It's time that America comes to understand that many of the nation's biggest disparities, from education and life expectancy to poverty, are increasingly due to economic class position," said William Julius Wilson, a Harvard professor who specializes in race and poverty. He noted that despite continuing economic difficulties, minorities have more optimism about the future after Obama's election, while struggling whites do not.

"There is the real possibility that white alienation will increase if steps are not taken to highlight and address inequality on a broad front," Wilson said.

Nationwide, the count of America's poor remains stuck at a record number: 46.2 million, or 15 percent of the population, due in part to lingering high unemployment following the recession. While poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics are nearly three times higher, by absolute numbers the predominant face of the poor is white.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Job security for gov't welfare workers.
dubleuhb Offline
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Hope and change bitches.
cacman Offline
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jackconrad wrote:

Nationwide, the count of America's poor remains stuck at a record number: 46.2 million, or 15 percent of the population, due in part to lingering high unemployment following the recession. While poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics are nearly three times higher, by absolute numbers the predominant face of the poor is white.

But "we need to spend some time in thinking about how do we bolster and reinforce our African American boys."
I ask again who keeps making race an issue?
And then there's his wife:
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/68889-mishy-barack-is-working-to-free-americans-from-any-form-of-public-assistance/
The never-ending vacations, with Grandma living in the White House in tow.

Is this the Hope & Change you voted for?
After all, the rest are just "phony scandals".
DadZilla3 Offline
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Two industries that are seeing a record market for their products and cannot keep up with the demand...firearms and ammunition manufacturers.

How's that Hope and Change working out for you, America?
HockeyDad Offline
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If only there was some sort of Cone Of Protection that extended over more than just a chosen few........
Burner02 Offline
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O'Blamer should be "KING"!
victor809 Offline
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cacman wrote:
But "we need to spend some time in thinking about how do we bolster and reinforce our African American boys."
I ask again who keeps making race an issue?
And then there's his wife:
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/68889-mishy-barack-is-working-to-free-americans-from-any-form-of-public-assistance/
The never-ending vacations, with Grandma living in the White House in tow.

Is this the Hope & Change you voted for?
After all, the rest are just "phony scandals".


You guys switch tracks faster than a squirrel with ADD, so I can't keep it all straight here.


Am I supposed to be outraged by the "predominant face of the poor" being white?
Or am I supposed to be outraged by those black welfare mothers we always hear about on cbid?

Or am I supposed to be outraged because some other person somewhere is always making this about race?

.... you guys need to give me cliff notes.
teedubbya Offline
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Is start with the fact that 98.3 percent of that jack posts is unfounded drivel at best and outright lies most of the time. The other 1.7 percent are some of the ugliest pornhub stars I've ever seen.
ZRX1200 Offline
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Pornhub? Is that a dating site?
bloody spaniard Offline
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Wasn't there a clown face on cbid that was used to pornhub unsuspecting folks?
teedubbya Offline
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Lol. There actually is a pornhub
ZRX1200 Offline
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I'm not falling for that.....
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teedubbya wrote:
Is start with the fact that 98.3 percent of that jack posts is unfounded drivel at best and outright lies most of the time. The other 1.7 percent are some of the ugliest pornhub stars I've ever seen.


I heard he's been writing Obama's speeches.
bloody spaniard Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
Is start with the fact that 98.3 percent of that jack posts is unfounded drivel at best and outright lies most of the time. The other 1.7 percent are some of the ugliest pornhub stars I've ever seen.


So, what are you saying?
That Jack would make a better press secretary than Jay the Carnival Barker Carney?
Or that his eclectic taste for ugly women is second only to Jetblasted's?
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bloody spaniard wrote:
So, what are you saying?
That Jack would make a better press secretary than Jay the Carnival Barker Carney?
Or that his eclectic taste for ugly women is second only to Jetblasted's?



Jack is just angry because the Democrats are controlling every facet of everyone's lives instead of the Republicans controlling every facet of everyone's lives.
bloody spaniard Offline
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HockeyDad wrote:
Jack is just angry because the Democrats are controlling every facet of everyone's lives instead of the Republicans controlling every facet of everyone's lives.

Think
You know, in Jack's defense, I enjoyed suffering under the jackbooted Repubes more than under the croc wearing Democraps.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Think
You know, in Jack's defense, I enjoyed suffering under the jackbooted Repubes more than under the croc wearing Democraps.



you must not have had your front door kicked in then.... I heard that was happneing alot... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
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^ Exactly. My point being that the suffering was bad back then but not as bad as it is now.
It's getting worse for most except for you, the folks at GSA, IRS, illegals, and Les at the pawnshop. Even double dippers are struggling.
DrafterX Offline
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A double dip of buttered pecan at Braums is over 2 bucks these days..!! Mad
jackconrad Offline
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If you were a Yellow Lab you'd think different..
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victor809 wrote:

.... you guys need to give me cliff notes.



Cliff Notes Outrage!!!
dubleuhb Offline
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Does Cliff swing that way ?
daveincincy Offline
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jackconrad wrote:
Sunday, 28 Jul 2013 02:57 PM

Four out of 5 U.S. adults struggle with joblessness, near-poverty or reliance on welfare for at least parts of their lives, a sign of deteriorating economic security and an elusive American dream.

Survey data exclusive to The Associated Press points to an increasingly globalized U.S. economy, the widening gap between rich and poor, and the loss of good-paying manufacturing jobs as reasons for the trend.

The findings come as President Barack Obama tries to renew his administration's emphasis on the economy, saying in recent speeches that his highest priority is to "rebuild ladders of opportunity" and reverse income inequality.


I think what he meant to say, or was thinking in his demented mind, was his highest priority is to "reverse ladders of opportunity" in order to build equality. Because in his world it's easier to knock the ladder out from those who are willing to work hard and create jobs than it is to get those on welfare to even begin to put a foot on the ladder. In other words, it's easier for him to knock [successful, working] people down than to build people up.
DrafterX Offline
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let's just double the minimum wage..!! ThumpUp
daveincincy Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
let's just double the minimum wage..!! ThumpUp


Double it? We should triple it so we can all live in the land of milk and honey...but still make less than union wages.
DrafterX Offline
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people won't mind paying 10 bucks for a Happy meal right...?? Huh
teedubbya Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
you must not have had your front door kicked in then.... I heard that was happneing alot... Mellow



Brownie fixed them after the fact.

Now back to Jack's obsession with ugly porn chicks and his credibility gap caused by perpetually spreading false information in an attempt to discredit an administration that needs no help looking sh*tty.
bloody spaniard Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
people won't mind paying 10 bucks for a Happy meal right...?? Huh

Poor Drafter will be hit for $50 every morning for 5 Happy Meals if we give folks $10/hour.Crying
Must admit that bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit is good.Drool
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Poor Drafter will be hit for $50 every morning for 5 Happy Meals if we give folks $10/hour.Crying
Must admit that bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit is good.Drool


I had an egg white delight this morning.... at mcdonalds you sick bassards
bloody spaniard Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
I had an egg white delight this morning.... at mcdonalds you sick bassards


That sounds like menu choice #6 from the Bunny Ranch.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Poor Drafter will be hit for $50 every morning for 5 Happy Meals if we give folks $10/hour.Crying
Must admit that bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit is good.Drool



they don't want $10... they want $15.... I'd bet there's a whole lotta people that have been on da job for 20 years or more in all kinds of so called skilled jobs not making $15 an hour.... [melllow]
teedubbya Offline
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I think we should pay them in govt cheese
DrafterX Offline
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I bet we already do..... Mellow
bloody spaniard Offline
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Yeah! No $10/hr for THEM! That's too much!! They don't deserve it like I do! ...and....and whip them, whip them HARD as they work!whip
lazy bastards- now, let me get back to posting...Anxious
teedubbya Offline
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Yeah! No $10/hr for THEM! That's too much!! They don't deserve it like I do! ...and....and whip them, whip them HARD as they work!whip
lazy bastards- now, let me get back to posting...Anxious


If we could whip them I have no problem paying a little extra.

Maybe they should get a customary 20% tip
teedubbya Offline
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I worked at a McDonalds for about a month in college. It was just too hard to keep up that pace while stoned.
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DrafterX wrote:
they don't want $10... they want $15.... I'd bet there's a whole lotta people that have been on da job for 20 years or more in all kinds of so called skilled jobs not making $15 an hour.... [melllow]


Will they continue to steal food (justifiably to make up for low wages?) if their pay increases to $15/hr? Anxious
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so paying the dude flipping burgers the same as the dude who spent 9 months going to welding school or truck driving school is the ok..?? Or is everybodys salary gonna double..?? I thought we were trying to protect the small business guy... Think
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daveincincy wrote:
Will they continue to steal food (justifiably to make up for low wages?) if their pay increases to $15/hr? Anxious


prolly... but what about the minimum wage lady ironing shirts.. how is she gonna get by..?? Huh
bloody spaniard Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
prolly... but what about the minimum wage lady ironing shirts.. how is she gonna get by..?? Huh

Mebbe a little shade work on the side cookin', cleanin', and lovin' you for $2/hr?
teedubbya Offline
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Interesting how it is being reported. I keep hearing they need over $10 an hour just to be at the poverty level. But if you look close that is for a family of 4 ($23,050). It is 11,170 for a single individual. That's $5.50
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bloody spaniard wrote:
Mebbe a little shade work on the side cookin', cleanin', and lovin' you for $2/hr?



$2 an hour for lovin drafter? it will take several hours just for her to find "it"

Outrage!
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teedubbya wrote:
Interesting how it is being reported. I keep hearing they need over $10 an hour just to be at the poverty level. But if you look close that is for a family of 4 ($23,050). It is 11,170 for a single individual. That's $5.50



Think
so you think we need to lower the minumum wage..?? Huh

I was ok with giving them another buck or so but doubling it is right out... Not talking
bloody spaniard Offline
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^ How big of you, er, you know what I mean.Blushing

DrafterX wrote:
so paying the dude flipping burgers the same as the dude who spent 9 months going to welding school or truck driving school is the ok..?? Or is everybodys salary gonna double..?? I thought we were trying to protect the small business guy... Think


I easily paid entry level people more than minimum wage depending on experience. $10/hour is nothing unless you're a tightwad or broke. I can definitely understand if the latter however. I smoke cheap cigars to compensate for it.
Btw I am currently paying our healthcare caretaker over $16.50/hr & will offer that to new employees. The psychologists will get considerably more.

$10/hour is bare minimum. You should try living on that. Wait, you may still get the chance...
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I always considered minimum wage something we paid high school kids for summer jobs... they were suppose to want more and get some sort of training or education... now we're just gonne make it easier for someone to get by doing the absolute least they can..?? Huh
bloody spaniard Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I always considered minimum wage something we paid high school kids for summer jobs... they were suppose to want more and get some sort of training or education... now we're just gonne make it easier for someone to get by doing the absolute least they can..?? Huh


You've been brainwashed. That's ok. Been there done that. I too, used to wave my fist at the lazy have nots for wanting what was rightfully mine.
When you get into a higher position of authority and responsibility, you'll understand mo' bettah.

Btw, you can easily fire lazy or inefficient folks...
cacman Offline
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Raise the minimum wage and we'll be paying $20 for a Big Mac.
Flipping burgers and dropping fries at a fast-food joint was not meant to be a way of life.
Want a higher wage? Learn a trade. Flipping burgers or pulling them from a microwave is not a trade.
bloody spaniard Offline
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Those are the most easily accessible jobs these days. There's no shame in being a fry cook or similar btw. That's a hard, honorable profession IMO.
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bloody spaniard wrote:
You've been brainwashed. That's ok. Been there done that. I too, used to wave my fist at the lazy have nots for wanting what was rightfully mine.
When you get into a higher position of authority and responsibility, you'll understand mo' bettah.

Btw, you can easily fire lazy or inefficient folks...



so, you're willing to pay your heathcare caretaker $33 per hour when the minimum wage doubles..?? It's the only fair thing to do... Mellow
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