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Taps86 Offline
#1 Posted:
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Turn on CNN....


Before you think I am coming at you Jack.



Where do you stand on this?
jackconrad Offline
#2 Posted:
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huh??
Taps86 Offline
#3 Posted:
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jackconrad wrote:
huh??


On Medicinal Marijuana. Where do you stand. Should it be legal?
jackconrad Offline
#4 Posted:
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Frankly for medical use i don't care..

Its not for me though..
Taps86 Offline
#5 Posted:
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jackconrad wrote:
Frankly for medical use i don't care..

Its not for me though..


Completely understand. After watching that episode last night I think it has changed where some people stand. Proved that the government has been putting out false beliefs and data. Wonder what would have been if Gupta took the Surgeon General job.
z6joker9 Offline
#6 Posted:
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It should be legal, even non-medicinally. No, I do not partake.
Taps86 Offline
#7 Posted:
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z6joker9 wrote:
It should be legal, even non-medicinally. No, I do not partake.


Yep. But yet we got the mindset of lets medicate with compound drugs. If we don't, JOBS will be lost and politicians pockets will go empty....God I can't wait for the younger generation to start getting into office.
rfenst Offline
#8 Posted:
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My pain mgmt. doctor told me to watch the show. He knew I occasionally used to smoke pot and thought I'd be interested because he believes I am a perfect candidate for medical use (for neuropathic pain and muscle spasm). However, since it is not legal, he cannot prescribe it and if I use it, then I will not be able to pass regular piss tests to "prove" I am free of substance abuse. Otherwise, the protocol would be to be discharged from his practice and denied access to muscle relaxants and narcotic painkillers. Cannot take that risk- ever. In addition, another doctor has told me the exact same thing about my candidacy for a separate neurological condition.

Anyhow, the show was awesome. I had heard the anecdotal stories of two of the main characters before. What I had not heard was the rest of the show: All the research that has been done; the breeding and production of lower to almost no psychoactive cannabis cannabinoid (THC) and the number of people who are being helped around the world for various conditions. The later blew my mind.

Here in Florida, it is going to be on the ballot next year. We need a 60% vote to win and recent polls show that with the proper ballot language a tad over 70% of the population will vote in favor of legalization for medical use. Suffice it to say I am outraged that medical marijuana- with or without THC- is not legal. It makes no sense to me at all. Decisions about its use belong being made between a doctor and a patient. Two of my doctors would prescribe it, but cannot- and my wife will not tolerate it wisely because we have two teenagers who we don't want to send the wrong mesage to.

And, for those who say it is nothing but an easy foot-hold for abusers to access pot, I say bullsh!t. Show me one single example of someone who wants to smoke pot who cannot get it and therefore does not smoke it.

(For anyone interested, I took notes to include the names of doctors, researchers and studies for further self-study
DadZilla3 Offline
#9 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
On Medicinal Marijuana. Where do you stand. Should it be legal?

Medicinal use, sure why not? Let an MD write the prescription and let Government House make a buck from taxing it. Doctors already prescribe drugs that have far more dangerous side effects than marijuana. And marijuana legality would pull some of the money out of the pockets of the drug cartels that are currently making a millions off it.

I don't smoke the stuff. But each to his/ her own.
Buckwheat Offline
#10 Posted:
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Don't like them in the yard and really don't care if anyone smokes it for what ever reason. Not a drug I've ever really "embraced". Just not my thing.
ZRX1200 Offline
#11 Posted:
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Posts: 60,628
It should ne legal.



Most that partake that I know are morons though.
tailgater Offline
#12 Posted:
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Massachusetts recently legalized pot for medicinal purposes.
I voted in favor of it.
Problem is, nobody wants the "distribution centers" in their backyard.



Personally, I think it's no big deal. But I find the arguments in favor of legalization to be weak.
Medical Marijuana is the new "hemp".
People who could otherwise care less about about medical cures are now somehow motivated to push for legislation. We saw this with the "hemp crops for clothing and food" campaign.

And how different is this "cure" from other medicines.
No other prescription that I can think of offers such a variety to choose from. You take oxycontin and you get what they give you. But you have cataracts? Then step right up and choose from Jamaican Red or Maui Wowy or Sinsimalian (sp?) or whatever newest variations are now available in the schools. I mean at the clinics.

Legalize it. Collect taxes on it. Put an age limit on it.
But don't play this charade and expect people to take it seriously.

The real discussion should be the safety aspect regarding driving etc.
Face it; people can have a drink or two without shooting for a buzz. The same isn't true for pot smokers (non medicinal). People light up a joint for one reason: to get high.
If the average drinker drank to inebriation every time they had a drink, they'd be labeled an alcoholic.
z6joker9 Offline
#13 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Most that partake that I know are morons though.


Ironically, it would be legal already if it wasn't for the users.
jackconrad Offline
#14 Posted:
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TRUe about the driving nobody on pot should ever drive..
dstieger Offline
#15 Posted:
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jackconrad wrote:
TUe about the driving nobody on pot should ever drive..


Once upon a time, as regular 'user', I was POSITIVE that I was a better driver when a bit stoned. Mostly because I never sped when using. Certainly there was the extra focus so I don't get caught aspect, but mostly it was because I could drive at 55 (this was pretty long ago) and feel like I was going 75.... :)
dstieger Offline
#16 Posted:
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Seriously, I've come at the legalization issue mostly from a Libertarian point of view that it is impossible to justify criminalization - especially when compared to alcohol or other controlled substances.

However, as someone with a lot of personal research experience, I've not been too vocal about my beliefs above. I just think that while it may not be inherently dangerous to oneself, widespread use may be detrimental to our society. Quite simply, pot makes you lazy. Far worse, it makes you think that it is perfectly OK to be lazy. For some, it is a temporary, short duration state of mind. For most, however, it is more enduring. Not sure our society can thrive with much more laziness than already exists.
jackconrad Offline
#17 Posted:
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They must be puting pot in my eggs or sumpin..cause that deescibes me too a teeeee....^
DrMaddVibe Offline
#18 Posted:
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Imagine if they decrimilized it. It would be taxed and most prisons would be emptied of the useless "war on drugs". Anyone not paying attention still believes the lies. The rest of us already know we're the biggest pusher. Control the source...control the product.

I don't have a problem with it at all. The hypocrisy from our government is laughable at best. There's a reason why it's here. Time to get with the program and think more with our better interests and pocketbooks in mind than propping up the only game in town.Angel
teedubbya Offline
#19 Posted:
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yup

tailgater Offline
#20 Posted:
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Some say that pot makes you forget things.

Massachusetts recently legalized pot for medicinal purposes.
I voted in favor of it.
Problem is, nobody wants the "distribution centers" in their backyard.



Personally, I think it's no big deal. But I find the arguments in favor of legalization to be weak.
Medical Marijuana is the new "hemp".
People who could otherwise care less about about medical cures are now somehow motivated to push for legislation. We saw this with the "hemp crops for clothing and food" campaign.

And how different is this "cure" from other medicines.
No other prescription that I can think of offers such a variety to choose from. You take oxycontin and you get what they give you. But you have cataracts? Then step right up and choose from Jamaican Red or Maui Wowy or Sinsimalian (sp?) or whatever newest variations are now available in the schools. I mean at the clinics.

Legalize it. Collect taxes on it. Put an age limit on it.
But don't play this charade and expect people to take it seriously.

The real discussion should be the safety aspect regarding driving etc.
Face it; people can have a drink or two without shooting for a buzz. The same isn't true for pot smokers (non medicinal). People light up a joint for one reason: to get high.
If the average drinker drank to inebriation every time they had a drink, they'd be labeled an alcoholic.

Plus, some that that pot makes you forget things.

cacman Offline
#21 Posted:
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^^^ Delayed double-post?!?!?
What the hell are you smokin??
dstieger Offline
#22 Posted:
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tailgater wrote:


Plus, some that that pot makes you forget things.




Could be something to that. I've forgotten 1980, 81 & 82.
jackconrad Offline
#23 Posted:
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Why yes the Raiders are loaded at Quarterback...
edin508 Offline
#24 Posted:
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DrMaddVibe wrote:
Imagine if they decrimilized it. It would be taxed and most prisons would be emptied of the useless "war on drugs". Anyone not paying attention still believes the lies. The rest of us already know we're the biggest pusher. Control the source...control the product.

I don't have a problem with it at all. The hypocrisy from our government is laughable at best. There's a reason why it's here. Time to get with the program and think more with our better interests and pocketbooks in mind than propping up the only game in town.Angel


Anything, one ounce or less, HAS been decriminalized here in MA as well. Still not legal though. Pay a $100 ticket and be on your way.
MACS Offline
#25 Posted:
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"Legalize it. Collect taxes on it. Put an age limit on it.
But don't play this charade and expect people to take it seriously." - tailgater

Agreed. The whole "medical marijuana" thing is just a way for people to smoke and possess it without getting arrested. BUT - in my personal opinion it is much less detrimental to society than alcohol.

I have smoked marijuana, and I've consumed alcohol. If it was legal, my preference would be to smoke marijuana, but since it is not... it is not worth it to me to lose my job.

I wrote a paper for school on the legalization of marijuana, tailgater, if you'd like to read it give me your e-mail.
rfenst Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
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tailgater wrote:
Some say that pot makes you forget things.

Massachusetts recently legalized pot for medicinal purposes.
I voted in favor of it.
Problem is, nobody wants the "distribution centers" in their backyard.



Personally, I think it's no big deal. But I find the arguments in favor of legalization to be weak.
Medical Marijuana is the new "hemp".
People who could otherwise care less about about medical cures are now somehow motivated to push for legislation. We saw this with the "hemp crops for clothing and food" campaign.

And how different is this "cure" from other medicines.
No other prescription that I can think of offers such a variety to choose from. You take oxycontin and you get what they give you. But you have cataracts? Then step right up and choose from Jamaican Red or Maui Wowy or Sinsimalian (sp?) or whatever newest variations are now available in the schools. I mean at the clinics.

Legalize it. Collect taxes on it. Put an age limit on it.
But don't play this charade and expect people to take it seriously.

The real discussion should be the safety aspect regarding driving etc.
Face it; people can have a drink or two without shooting for a buzz. The same isn't true for pot smokers (non medicinal). People light up a joint for one reason: to get high.
If the average drinker drank to inebriation every time they had a drink, they'd be labeled an alcoholic.

Plus, some that that pot makes you forget things.




Sure, those who push for medical use for their own benefit to get high are subverting the purpose. So be it. Those of us who might benefit from it still deserve the lawful right to follow our doctors' recommendations to try it as we do with practically every other drug. We should not lose because others break the law. What they do is no different than going to their doctor and complaining of pain to lawfully obtain painkillers to get high on. That is more dangerous and detrimental to society than the mj is.

Your comments on Jamaican Red, Maui Wowy and the like show that you do not understand what marijuana is all about for both abusers and medical users. Do you really even know what they are from either an academic or personal experience perspective?

Medical mj is not subterfuge for many, many people. Personally, I would not be lighting a joint to get high, but to get the potential benefit of non-THC cannabinoids that can be helpful.

Being high and driving is nothing new. It is the same as driving while impaired by alcohol, narcotic pain killers, muscle relaxants and/or the like. Either you are safe to drive or you are not. We need to start complaining about that before complain about mj users who may drive under the influence- to not is hypocritical. Want to see me on the road after taking Soma or Dilaudid? I hope not.

People who use medical marijuana don't always smoke to get high. There is medical marijuana with virtually no THC, but which has other cannabinoids that are beneficial. Some strains have even been bread to increase beneficial cannabinoids, but laws prevent their sale/purchase and possession.

A good deal of the world has strong empiricle evidence of eficacy, but the U.S. ignores the fact and won't permit the research it would require to make an edjucated decision.

At least, please watch the referenced CNN expose befor ecoming back to this.
DrafterX Offline
#27 Posted:
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I read about a guy on here that once drank like 17 beers in a bar and drove home in his mini-van....... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
#28 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I read about a guy on here that once drank like 17 beers in a bar and drove home in his mini-van....... Mellow



that bassard. prolly stole water at walmart the next day
wheelrite Offline
#29 Posted:
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I don't care if people smoke dope..

but it is a Gateway Drug..


wheel,
dkeage Offline
#30 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:
Sure, those who push for medical use for their own benefit to get high are subverting the purpose. So be it. Those of us who might benefit from it still deserve the lawful right to follow our doctors' recommendations to try it as we do with practically every other drug. We should not lose because others break the law. What they do is no different than going to their doctor and complaining of pain to lawfully obtain painkillers to get high on. That is more dangerous and detrimental to society than the mj is.

Your comments on Jamaican Red, Maui Wowy and the like show that you do not understand what marijuana is all about for both abusers and medical users. Do you really even know what they are from either an academic or personal experience perspective?

Medical mj is not subterfuge for many, many people. Personally, I would not be lighting a joint to get high, but to get the potential benefit of non-THC cannabinoids that can be helpful.

Being high and driving is nothing new. It is the same as driving while impaired by alcohol, narcotic pain killers, muscle relaxants and/or the like. Either you are safe to drive or you are not. We need to start complaining about that before complain about mj users who may drive under the influence- to not is hypocritical. Want to see me on the road after taking Soma or Dilaudid? I hope not.

People who use medical marijuana don't always smoke to get high. There is medical marijuana with virtually no THC, but which has other cannabinoids that are beneficial. Some strains have even been bread to increase beneficial cannabinoids, but laws prevent their sale/purchase and possession.

A good deal of the world has strong empiricle evidence of eficacy, but the U.S. ignores the fact and won't permit the research it would require to make an edjucated decision.

At least, please watch the referenced CNN expose befor ecoming back to this.



Those who push for medical use for their own benefit are subverting the purpose. So be it. Those of us who might benefit from it still deserve the lawful right to follow our doctors' reccomendations to try it as we do with practically every other drug. We should not lose because others break the law.

Your coments on Jamaican Red, Maui Wowy and the like show that you do not understand what marijuana is all about for both abusers and medical users.

Medical mj is not subterfuge for many, many people. I would not be lighting a joint to get high, but to get the non-THC canaboids that can be helpful.

Being high and driving is nothing new. It is the same as driving while impaired by alcholo, narcotice pain killers, musclerelaxants and the like. Either you are safe to drive or you are not.

People who use medical marijuana don't always smoke to get high. There is medical marijuana with virtually no THC, but which has other canabinoids that are beneficial.





Self C&P outrage!!


You OK man?
rfenst Offline
#31 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,366
dkeage wrote:
Self C&P outrage!!


You OK man?


Yeah man, how about you? Good chit, huh?
frankj1 Offline
#32 Posted:
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Posts: 44,228
tailgater wrote:
Some say that pot makes you forget things.

Massachusetts recently legalized pot for medicinal purposes.
I voted in favor of it.
Problem is, nobody wants the "distribution centers" in their backyard.



Personally, I think it's no big deal. But I find the arguments in favor of legalization to be weak.
Medical Marijuana is the new "hemp".
People who could otherwise care less about about medical cures are now somehow motivated to push for legislation. We saw this with the "hemp crops for clothing and food" campaign.

And how different is this "cure" from other medicines.
No other prescription that I can think of offers such a variety to choose from. You take oxycontin and you get what they give you. But you have cataracts? Then step right up and choose from Jamaican Red or Maui Wowy or Sinsimalian (sp?) or whatever newest variations are now available in the schools. I mean at the clinics.

Legalize it. Collect taxes on it. Put an age limit on it.
But don't play this charade and expect people to take it seriously.

The real discussion should be the safety aspect regarding driving etc.
Face it; people can have a drink or two without shooting for a buzz. The same isn't true for pot smokers (non medicinal). People light up a joint for one reason: to get high.
If the average drinker drank to inebriation every time they had a drink, they'd be labeled an alcoholic.

Plus, some that that pot makes you forget things.


I voted for it in MA too, but I really disliked the form that the proposal took. I'd have preferred a simple move to widen decriminalizatin without getting involved with the medical distribution...which will be a mess. I believe in medical mj but our law was not well formed.

I have known about medicinal mj from other states (CA & RI maybe) for a few years now widely available on the street here, people selling it for over $300 an ounce!

I have an aquaintance who has been smoking daily for decades who gleefully announced that he got "the diagnosis" for when a local dispensary opens. I am aware he has hepatitis so asked what else he has to cause severe pain. He said just the hepatitis! I was floored. So now does this mean I am paying for his nonstop smoke-ins or is this all on his insurance?
I don't give a crap if he smokes all day, really, but let him pay for it.


jackconrad Offline
#33 Posted:
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BOB
"Being high and driving is nothing new. It is the same as driving while impaired by alcohol, narcotic pain killers, muscle relaxants and/or the like. Either you are safe to drive or you are not. We need to start complaining about that before complain about mj users who may drive under the influence- to not is hypocritical. Want to see me on the road after taking Soma or Dilaudid? I hope not."

This was in no way close to the way it worked in my limted tries as a teen.

Pot was way more powerful and took 24 hours to wear off.

But i think medically refined use can be great for many. I had a brother IN Law who died from cancer . The pot gave him an appetite when he usually would not be able to eat, even though he eventually died he lived almost 3 years longer than predicted and at the time he had to go to another country to get it at great expense. Most medicines are posion if misused. But really the potential for abuse here is very high so refing it for medical use is the way to go..

IMHO
tailgater Offline
#34 Posted:
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Posts: 26,185
rfenst wrote:
Sure, those who push for medical use for their own benefit to get high are subverting the purpose. So be it. Those of us who might benefit from it still deserve the lawful right to follow our doctors' recommendations to try it as we do with practically every other drug. We should not lose because others break the law. What they do is no different than going to their doctor and complaining of pain to lawfully obtain painkillers to get high on. That is more dangerous and detrimental to society than the mj is.

Your comments on Jamaican Red, Maui Wowy and the like show that you do not understand what marijuana is all about for both abusers and medical users. Do you really even know what they are from either an academic or personal experience perspective?

Medical mj is not subterfuge for many, many people. Personally, I would not be lighting a joint to get high, but to get the potential benefit of non-THC cannabinoids that can be helpful.

Being high and driving is nothing new. It is the same as driving while impaired by alcohol, narcotic pain killers, muscle relaxants and/or the like. Either you are safe to drive or you are not. We need to start complaining about that before complain about mj users who may drive under the influence- to not is hypocritical. Want to see me on the road after taking Soma or Dilaudid? I hope not.

People who use medical marijuana don't always smoke to get high. There is medical marijuana with virtually no THC, but which has other cannabinoids that are beneficial. Some strains have even been bread to increase beneficial cannabinoids, but laws prevent their sale/purchase and possession.

A good deal of the world has strong empiricle evidence of eficacy, but the U.S. ignores the fact and won't permit the research it would require to make an edjucated decision.

At least, please watch the referenced CNN expose befor ecoming back to this.


Are you just trying to prove my "forget things" comment?

I thought I was clear, but here it is again for those who already bogarted that roach.

Medicinal mj is a good thing. The benefits are real. Those who need it for themselves or loved ones are justified in their efforts to legalize it. But the vocal majority for medicinal mj use is just a bunch of stoners hiding behind medical terms.
My comments about the various "flavors" is just supporting evidence here. If mj were treated like a serious medication, it would be sold through pharmacies based on active ingredient level. Instead, it's sold in a parlor like atmosphere where the user chooses their "favorite" flavor. It's so absurd it almost doesn't seem real, more like a scene from a bad movie with Keano Reeves.
And my comment about smoking to get high: I did stipulate NON medicinal use. I was comparing it to alcohol, because this is too often the battlecry from Woody Harrelson and his hemp crew.

When real doctors wearing white smocks or a suit and tie replace the leftover burned out hippie as the spokes person for medicinal mj, maybe, just MAYBE people will take it seriously.

Meanwhile, nobody in my state wants these "parlors" in their neighborhood despite the voters passing the bill by more than 70%.



teedubbya Offline
#35 Posted:
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The gateway drug myth was pretty effectively debunked. The addiction price as well.


What I find odd is the timing. CNN does this on Sunday and holder announces his little drug dance on Monday. Coinkadink?
tailgater Offline
#36 Posted:
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Not a gateway drug?

How many people snort cocaine or shoot up heroin or tweet some glass without first smoking dope?

Smoking pot doesn't make you yearn for these other drugs, but it certainly provides a stepping stone for many. So it depends on how you define "gateway".

wheelrite Offline
#37 Posted:
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Ask the majority of junkies what illegal drug they tried first...

Weed tops the list...

sorry but true,,,
teedubbya Offline
#38 Posted:
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Dude watch the show. Not that it is a be all end all. It's not. But it was pretty well thought out and researched. It tried to get past the same ol recycled stuff like your post.

Seriously watch it. It was surprisingly good.
teedubbya Offline
#39 Posted:
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Milk would beat out weed.
tailgater Offline
#40 Posted:
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rfenst wrote:

Being high and driving is nothing new. It is the same as driving while impaired by alcohol, narcotic pain killers, muscle relaxants and/or the like. Either you are safe to drive or you are not. We need to start complaining about that before complain about mj users who may drive under the influence- to not is hypocritical. Want to see me on the road after taking Soma or Dilaudid? I hope not.
.


I forgot to address this.
Driving high is very different from driving drunk.
But nobody says "Don't worry, I drive better when drunk".
And like I said before, I can go to a bar and have 2 beers with my lunch and drive home. I couldn't go there, get high, then drive home.
It's DIFFERENT. And we DO complain about drunk driving. Is that even a serious statement??



Besides.
Smoking pot makes you forget stuff.


teedubbya Offline
#41 Posted:
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Watch the show. Lol

Bunch a dolts.

teedubbya Offline
#42 Posted:
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And stuff
wheelrite Offline
#43 Posted:
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Posts: 50,119
teedubbya wrote:
Dude watch the show. Not that it is a be all end all. It's not. But it was pretty well thought out and researched. It tried to get past the same ol recycled stuff like your post.

Seriously watch it. It was surprisingly good.


How do you know it was well researched? Just because you liked it doesn't mean it was researched properly without bias.


wheel,
tailgater Offline
#44 Posted:
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Posts: 26,185
teedubbya wrote:
Dude watch the show. Not that it is a be all end all. It's not. But it was pretty well thought out and researched. It tried to get past the same ol recycled stuff like your post.

Seriously watch it. It was surprisingly good.


"watch the show"

I remember hearing that after 9/11 when the conspiracy freaks watched a slanted video full of half truths.

Look at the conversation above between Robert and me.
He completely ignores the qualifying portions of my comments in order to make his point.
Then I'm told to watch CNN.

If CNN makes such a good point, then just tell me. I don't have time to watch CNN. What, with posting here and finding new porn sites and such. Plus I have some pot to smoke. Don't worry, I have a scrip. Totally legit.
Dude.

But be careful. It makes you forget stuff.

teedubbya Offline
#45 Posted:
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Oh brother
edin508 Offline
#46 Posted:
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1
wheelrite Offline
#47 Posted:
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Posts: 50,119
tailgater wrote:
"watch the show"

I remember hearing that after 9/11 when the conspiracy freaks watched a slanted video full of half truths.

Look at the conversation above between Robert and me.
He completely ignores the qualifying portions of my comments in order to make his point.
Then I'm told to watch CNN.

If CNN makes such a good point, then just tell me. I don't have time to watch CNN. What, with posting here and finding new porn sites and such. Plus I have some pot to smoke. Don't worry, I have a scrip. Totally legit.
Dude.

But be careful. It makes you forget stuff.


Bravo !!!!!!!!!!!!

frankj1 Offline
#48 Posted:
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Posts: 44,228
tailgater wrote:
I forgot to address this.
Driving high is very different from driving drunk.
But nobody says "Don't worry, I drive better when drunk".
And like I said before, I can go to a bar and have 2 beers with my lunch and drive home. I couldn't go there, get high, then drive home.
It's DIFFERENT. And we DO complain about drunk driving. Is that even a serious statement??



Besides.
Smoking pot makes you forget stuff.



very interesting article in Sunday's Boston Globe "Ideas" section. While they admit there may be incredibly damaging evidence yet to come, as there will now be more traceable information, the early reports based on what they have since legalized pot has become fact shows that traffic fatalities are actually down where pot is part of the measureable stats.

The article is very open and thoughtful about known and unknown factors and even mentions that many alcohol related driving fatalities have a common factor of drunks driving to places where alcohol is served vs most mj consumption has been at home to date, that will change when mj "parlors" open and people start to drive distances in order to get high.

But the early numbers are heavily in favor of stoners being less dangerous than drunk drivers. Key word is "early".
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I was ready to post and I had something really insightful to add...

...but I forgot what I was gonna say.
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Don't Frick

With Belechick !
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