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Don't be Too Hard On Obama on Syria
Gene363 Offline
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Don't be too hard on Obama about the Syrian use of WMD on their own people. All his talking on how he should or should not do something at some point, is a lot more than Roosevelt did about the Germans killing the Jews in WWII.
drywalldog Offline
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Maybe you can talk Congress into comin back early, good luck.
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If you change your color font to red, and use all caps, you can be Righty Rick.
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Gene363 wrote:
Don't be too hard on Obama about the Syrian used of WMD on their own people. All his talking on how he should might or night not do something at some point, is a lot more than Roosevelt did about the Germans killing the Jews in WWII.



He f'd up commander in chief military powers by deferring to the legislative branch for "approval". This sets a horrible precedent, which doesn't even come close to the precedent/example he failed to set for the rest of the world. Sucks to be a U.S. ally reliant on U.S. military support/military threat right now. When you train a dog, you punish and reward immediately after the dog does something good or bad- not a few days to a few weeks later. What does his inaction say to Assad and the rest of the world? Very disappointed here.
drywalldog Offline
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Ball is on righties side of the court.
Gene363 Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
If you change your color font to red, and use all caps, you can be Righty Rick.


Perfect, I know I'm hitting a nerve when I get a personal attack. BSEG
8trackdisco Offline
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It is funny that some are applauding his move to ask congress to weigh in.

He did what he was Supposed To Do!

This morning, I didn't beat my wife, rob a bank, or sodomize a squirrel. Where's the applause?

Too bad nobody ever came up with an idea of having an international group. Maybe a cooperative of countries. Like a League of Nations. Or maybe they could call it the United Nations. They could deal with these one off, garbage conflicts.

Nahhhh. Keys see if we can get our debt up to 18 trillion.

Spending money on this if we had a SURPLUS would be dumb enough.
Gene363 Offline
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rfenst wrote:
He F'd up commander in chief war power by combining the executive and legislative branches. **** man should do what he said he would. I have much less problem with that than I do with him doing zip. Very disappointed here.

As to WWII, those jews were dispensable, and not an American issue of concern until well into the war. I cannot imagine the Syrians who could be killed by our attack are even of equal importance to the U.S.


Yes, he should have just done it.

He has substituted leading from behind with leading on his behind.
drywalldog Offline
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Oh that was too personal, thought you were tougher than that.
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We all know whatever he did it would have been wrong, he just outsmarted the do nothing Congress. Make your move, or don't.
Gene363 Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
It is funny that some are applauding his move to ask congress to weigh in.

He did what he was Supposed To Do!

This morning, I didn't beat my wife, rob a bank, or sodomize a squirrel. Where's the applause?

Too bad nobody ever came up with an idea of having an international group. Maybe a cooperative of countries. Like a League of Nations. Or maybe they could call it the United Nations. They could deal with these one off, garbage conflicts.

Nahhhh. Keys see if we can get our debt up to 18 trillion.

Spending money on this if we had a SURPLUS would be dumb enough.



If it were not for his track record I would almost feel sorry for Obama.
drywalldog Offline
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Gene, with your spelling, punctuation, and color choice I thought you were emulating Rick.
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So, I guess some of you have no problem with the US murdering a bunch of possibly innocent Syrian men, women and children in an attempt to "punish" Asad. Your answer to his killing of innocents, is for us to kill even more innocents. I'm sure all the widows and orphans we make, will understand that we where just punishing Asad, when we blew their loved ones to bits.
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Arr Syrian women and children different than Iraqi or Afgans?
Gene363 Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
Oh that was too personal, thought you were tougher than that.


It's all good, it just a thermometer. Beer


drywalldog wrote:
We all know whatever he did it would have been wrong, he just outsmarted the do nothing Congress. Make your move, or don't.


Yeah, reminds me of that commercial with the little chihuahua that says, "No, you come along."
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Gene363 wrote:

If it were not for his track record I would almost feel sorry for Obama.


Obama is too busy trying to oppress Americans on American soil to be able to focus on the Middle East.

It becomes a tricky dance.

He shouldn't have shot off his mouth for a week, beating the war drum. should have went to congress first.

The time it takes to putty Kerry's make up for each appearance took away from the time it takes to have a reasonable policy. Wait.... He's had two plus years to watch this play out. It would be better if he let it play out another two and a half.
8trackdisco Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
Arr Syrian women and children different than Iraqi or Afgans?


Most of those women will be living in Maryland in time to vote for the Dems in the 2016 election.
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drywalldog wrote:
Arr Syrian women and children different than Iraqi or Afgans?


No, they are not. As a Libertarian (and human being) I was against Bush's wars, just as I'm against Obama's. Too bad some of you on both sides seem to have a blood lust.
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I heard they had first class tickets to Michigan and Wisconsin, and their own smartphones.
Gene363 Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
Obama is too busy trying to oppress Americans on American soil to be able to focus on the Middle East.

It becomes a tricky dance.

He shouldn't have shot off his mouth for a week, beating the war drum. should have went to congress first.

The time it takes to putty Kerry's make up for each appearance took away from the time it takes to have a reasonable policy. Wait.... He's had two plus years to watch this play out. It would be better if he let it play out another two and a half.


It must have been a huge shock to find he only the US media and (some) folks in the USA worship him, not the British, not the UN and not the rest of the world.
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Too bad you can't get anyone elected, Dpnewell, no bloodlusy here.
Gene363 Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
Arr Syrian women and children different than Iraqi or Afgans?


Is it more of a tragedy if they die from a poison gas attack or a bomb blast?
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Tell Congress to get their asses back to Eashington, and quit playin politics with this situation.
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drywalldog wrote:
I heard they had first class tickets to Michigan and Wisconsin, and their own smartphones.


Wisconsin is still a purple state. The welfare chit holes of Milwaukee, Madison, Racine, and Kenosha have about the same number of votes as the rest of the state.

It's over in Michigan. Flint & Detroit are the anchor that represents the Democrat majority and the liberal nirvana the state has become.

As the Scumcago residents move north, we'll eventually follow the Michigan model.
drywalldog Offline
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Washington
8trackdisco Offline
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Gene363 wrote:
It must have been a huge shock to find he only the US media and (some) folks in the USA worship him, not the British, not the UN and not the rest of the world.


America found out the voters can be bribed with their own money. Idiocracy.
drywalldog Offline
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Gives you something to look foward to.
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dpnewell wrote:
So, I guess some of you have no problem with the US murdering a bunch of possibly innocent Syrian men, women and children in an attempt to "punish" Asad. Your answer to his killing of innocents, is for us to kill even more innocents. I'm sure all the widows and orphans we make, will understand that we where just punishing Asad, when we blew their loved ones to bits.


The spin is that they will be acceptable "collateral damage"- with the hope that damaging Assad's abilities will save way more Syrian civilians. Sorry if anyone is offended, but what do some anaonymous Syrians truly mean to the U.S. political and military complex?
Gene363 Offline
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8trackdisco wrote:
America found out the voters can be bribed with their own money. Idiocracy.


We are on the fast track too.
Gene363 Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
Tell Congress to get their asses back to Eashington, and quit playin politics with this situation.


If it was important to Obama, he would have acted a long tome ago. He has bypassed Congress before. On Syria he is leading from his behind.

BTW, Congress meets in Washington, but what do I know. Frying pan
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8trackdisco wrote:
Spending money on this if we had a SURPLUS would be dumb enough.

Spending money we don't really have is bad enough. Putting American lives on the line yet again on some bullsh*t political chess game is infinitely worse.
drywalldog Offline
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You are correcting me Gene, now that's funny, I already corrected it, correct your first paragraph.
drywalldog Offline
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And the last paragraph as well.
Gene363 Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
You are correcting me Gene, now that's funny, I already corrected it, correct your first paragraph.


Isn't that why you post here?

Sarcasm

Oh, you are referring to grammar, spelling etc. Too late, already quoted, just like the grammatical corrections I made in my initial post. I stink at proof reading.
drywalldog Offline
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Gene, I've been to Washington, to Congress, and to the White House. Let me get this right, I can't correct you, but you can me?
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Some simple questions, as I'm a simple man. Disclaimer.... These questions are meant to be provocative.

The Syrians bombed the Syrians, so, we are contemplating shooting missiles at the Syrians, as retaliation?

This is an ongoing civil war where 100,000 people have already died, isn't it?

Isn't this actually a conflict between the Sunni and Shia?

This threatens our National Security how?

Shouldn't any outside response come from the U.N. instead of the U.S.A. acting unilaterally?

We want the same body of government to decide if we act or not, that cannot pass a budget successfully?

Isn't it a questionable play for the President to now throw the decision at congress, so that they can be blamed in the end?

Have we not learned anything from our past mistakes in the region?

A few days ago, the President was ready to act unilaterally without an act of congress, to strike the Syrian govt. over WMD, wasn't he?

Sound familiar?

What changed?
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Jesus christ DWD this has been going on long before the recess. Always a cop out with lefties. If he's so smaaaat why didn't he have a closed door meeting with congressional members before the "red line".

He shouldn't have ran his mouth off half cocked like a half white muslim cowboy.......war powers act is as great as the commerce clause has become.

Rfenster why the interest in a war that would likely lead to direct attacks on Israel?

This will end badly either way now. Great leadership.

drywalldog Offline
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He waited tell Congress went home, I think it is perfect.Not like Congress has done anything for him.
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stogiemonger wrote:
Have we not learned anything from our past mistakes in the region?

No. In fact, we haven't learned from our past mistakes in any region, nor have we learned anything from the past mistakes anyone else made in any region.
drywalldog Offline
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He acts with tough words, and Congress says, no you don't, so he says ok. I love it.
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So now you can bitch about them not being there?

Yeah perfect........WTF.
Gene363 Offline
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drywalldog wrote:
Gene, I've been to Washington, to Congress, and to the White House. Let me get this right, I can't correct you, but you can me?


I guess you missed the sarcasm flag. in my post, correct away as you see fit.

As for having been to Washington, Congress and the White House, populated by politicians of both parties reminds me of a saying, "Well there's your problem." d'oh!
Gene363 Offline
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stogiemonger wrote:
Some simple questions, as I'm a simple man. Disclaimer.... These questions are meant to be provocative.

The Syrians bombed the Syrians, so, we are contemplating shooting missiles at the Syrians, as retaliation?

This is an ongoing civil war where 100,000 people have already died, isn't it?

Isn't this actually a conflict between the Sunni and Shia?

This threatens our National Security how?

Shouldn't any outside response come from the U.N. instead of the U.S.A. acting unilaterally?

We want the same body of government to decide if we act or not, that cannot pass a budget successfully?

Isn't it a questionable play for the President to now throw the decision at congress, so that they can be blamed in the end?

Have we not learned anything from our past mistakes in the region?

A few days ago, the President was ready to act unilaterally without an act of congress, to strike the Syrian govt. over WMD, wasn't he?

Sound familiar?

What changed?


That pretty much sums it up. We really need to mind our own business.
drywalldog Offline
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Zrx, it's almost like you bitchin about both sides when you can't get anyone on your side elected.
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8trackdisco wrote:
Wisconsin is still a purple state. The welfare chit holes of Milwaukee, Madison, Racine, and Kenosha have about the same number of votes as the rest of the state.

It's over in Michigan. Flint & Detroit are the anchor that represents the Democrat majority and the liberal nirvana the state has become.

As the Scumcago residents move north, we'll eventually follow the Michigan model.



Ummmm...during the mid-term, Michigan went just about blood red. The same in 2012. You had exceptions - like my f-in district - but for the most they went Republican.

On a state level, again virtually all Republican.

And we got Right to Work stamped into law.

Things are changing here for the better, believe it or not.
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drywalldog wrote:
Zrx, it's almost like you bitchin about both sides when you can't get anyone on your side elected.


That's because slavish DNC boot-lickers like yourself would vote for Satan over a Republican.

Let's call your viewpoint for what it is: you're a low-information voter looking for the group that will give you the most goodies.
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Maybe thats because both sides piss me off??
drywalldog Offline
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And you can't do anything to change it, no matter what you do.
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Well Jpotts is back from sucking on the government teat.
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Satan is a Republican.
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