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Should WH residents move out during the Shutdown?
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Abrignac Offline
#1 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 7:59 AM EST
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Lake Mead property owners forced out until shutdown ends

By Jacqui Heinrich

CREATED Oct. 4, 2013

Las Vegas, NV (KTNV) -- The government shutdown is being felt close to home for some locals. They say they're being forced out of private homes on Lake Mead because they sit on federal land.

Joyce Spencer is 77-years-old and her husband Ralph is 80. They've been spending most of their time in the family ice cream store since going home isn't an option.

The Spencers never expected to be forced out of their Lake Mead home, which they've owned since the 70s, but on Thursday, a park ranger said they had 24 hours to get out.

"I had to go to town today and buy Ralph undershirts and jeans because I forgot his pants," Joyce Spencer told Action News.

The Stewart's Point home sits on federal land, so even though the Spencers own their cabin outright, they're not allowed in until the government reopens.

Park officials said property owners can visit only to retrieve belongings; they sent Action News a statement which reads in part, "Unfortunately overnight stays are not permitted until a budget is passed and the park can reopen."

Joyce Spencer said she's alright in the meantime, staying with nearby family, but the move was a lot to handle as a senior citizen.

"I had to be sure and get his walker and his scooter that he has to go in," Spencer said. "We're not hurt in any way except it might cost me if I have to go buy more pants."

The Lake Mead properties are considered vacation homes; one of the lease requirements to own a plot is people must have an alternative residence.

Regardless, the Spencers said it's their property and they should be allowed in, shutdown or not.

http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/Lake-Mead-Property-Owners-Forced-Out-Until-Gov-Shutdown-Ends-226557661.html
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 8:47 AM EST
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'Make it Hurt'....


Mellow
Taps86 Offline
#3 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 8:53 AM EST
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Booohoooo......
cacman Offline
#4 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 9:11 AM EST
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So you want to throw grandma out in the street.
DrafterX Offline
#5 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 9:47 AM EST
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sounds like Grandmas all over ths country are being thrown out... Think
ZRX1200 Offline
#6 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 9:50 AM EST
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Taps hates americans.
DadZilla3 Offline
#7 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 9:50 AM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
The Lake Mead properties are considered vacation homes; one of the lease requirements to own a plot is people must have an alternative residence.

Unfortunately, this means that the government did have the ability to (selectively) close down the area, obligating the residents to leave and move to their alternate residences...which they were required to have as a condition of their lease.

That doesn't make the government agents involved in the closure any less of a bunch of pr*cks, however.
z6joker9 Offline
#8 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 9:59 AM EST
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Not sure what to think in that the worst story they could find today was about an old couple that had to move out of their vacation home, even though the conditionals were outlined in the lease, which they don't bother to mention until late in the article after attempting to tug heartstrings.

If we would stop getting whipped up into a frenzy at all this shutdown stuff, the political parties would stop using it as strategy.
HockeyDad Offline
#9 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 10:04 AM EST
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Most of the government isn't really shut down. They're just making it look that way.

This is one of my favorites......

http://www.nps.gov
Gene363 Offline
#10 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 10:49 AM EST
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You think those folks will get any money off on their lease/rent?

Government goons.
Abrignac Offline
#11 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 10:56 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Most of the government isn't really shut down. They're just making it look that way.

This is one of my favorites......

http://www.nps.gov


So did the home page change before or after the shutdown? My guess is this is running off the same server that is currently housing the rest of the park service website.
Abrignac Offline
#12 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 10:57 AM EST
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z6joker9 wrote:
Not sure what to think in that the worst story they could find today was about an old couple that had to move out of their vacation home, even though the conditionals were outlined in the lease, which they don't bother to mention until late in the article after attempting to tug heartstrings.

If we would stop getting whipped up into a frenzy at all this shutdown stuff, the political parties would stop using it as strategy.



Regardless of the terms of the lease. Is it really necessary to do this? Seems they have ample funding to facilitate the agenda.
Abrignac Offline
#13 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 11:04 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:
Most of the government isn't really shut down. They're just making it look that way.

This is one of my favorites......

http://www.nps.gov


But, upon redirect, a box pops up and asks if one wants to join an email list for updates. How can we get updates if the site is offline due to the shutdown.

"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding.
How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
dstieger Offline
#14 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 11:08 AM EST
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HockeyDad wrote:

This is one of my favorites......

http://www.nps.gov



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z6joker9 Offline
#15 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 12:21 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Regardless of the terms of the lease. Is it really necessary to do this? Seems they have ample funding to facilitate the agenda.


No of course not, like HD said, they are just trying to make it appear that they are shut down, especially by suspending anything popular. See Washington Monument Syndrome.
Brewha Offline
#16 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 3:08 PM EST
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z6joker9 wrote:
No of course not, like HD said, they are just trying to make it appear that they are shut down, especially by suspending anything popular.

I guess Miley Cyrus is safe.
DrafterX Offline
#17 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 3:10 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
I guess Miley Cyrus is safe.



I doubt it... I'd recommend seeing a doctor within 12 hours.... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#18 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 3:21 PM EST
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LOL
rfenst Online
#19 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 4:29 PM EST
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z6joker9 wrote:
Not sure what to think in that the worst story they could find today was about an old couple that had to move out of their vacation home, even though the conditionals were outlined in the lease, which they don't bother to mention until late in the article after attempting to tug heartstrings.

If we would stop getting whipped up into a frenzy at all this shutdown stuff, the political parties would stop using it as strategy.


x10
Gene363 Offline
#20 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 4:29 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
I doubt it... I'd recommend seeing a doctor within 12 hours.... Mellow


Do not wait 12 hours before seeking medical attention. Shame on you
Abrignac Offline
#21 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 4:32 PM EST
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Gene363 wrote:
Do wait 12 hours before seeking medical attention. Shame on you


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW8S58CYQqs
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#22 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 4:32 PM EST
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Abrignac wrote:
Regardless of the terms of the lease. Is it really necessary to do this? Seems they have ample funding to facilitate the agenda.



This is a contractual matter that is none of our business. Having said that, have you offered this woefully oppressed family any space in your home or contributed to their well being?
Abrignac Offline
#23 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 5:04 PM EST
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rfenst wrote:
This is a contractual matter that is none of our business.


Well if you want to look at it that way counselor, my guess would be that the contract is with the park service, which is a department within the administrative branch of the Federal government which last time I checked is owned by the citizens of the United States of America. Technically, me you and they rest of us. So as an owner by extension, shouldn't I be privy to contracts which my "company" enter into? Not that I really give a damn, but it makes about as much sense as what you said.

rfenst wrote:
Having said that, have you offered this woefully oppressed family any space in your home or contributed to their well being?


Nope. They have another place. But, that's not the point. The point is someone at the Dept. of Interior either on their own or from direction above has decided to act like a spoiled brat. Much like some people feel Boehner has done.

Perhaps a little tit for tat, maybe? This makes as much sense as shutting off access to war memorials, shutting down businesses on the Blue Ridge Parkway, shutting down fishing in the waters around Florida, shutting off lanes in South Dakota. I could go on, but I think I made my point.
HockeyDad Offline
#24 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 5:11 PM EST
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Way too many people aren't feeling any effects from the shutdown. The citizenry need to be punished whereever possible.
ZRX1200 Offline
#25 Posted: Mon, Oct 7 2013, 5:21 PM EST
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Employees gone rogue holding their employers hostage.

SEIU must be behind this.
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