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don't forget who shuit down the government
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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Abrignac Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
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Republicans

Spell check is your friend....
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REPUBICANS SHUIT IT DOWN.


DEMONCATS ACTES LIKE BANIES AND REFUSE TO ACT LIKE STATESMEN AND CO.PROMISE.





Shut it down and let the motherf***er burn.
cacman Offline
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Isn't it a Democratic Congress that hasn't passed a budget since 2009, and needs more money to cover monies already overspent?
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cacman wrote:
Isn't it a Democratic Congress that hasn't passed a budget since 2009, and needs more money to cover monies already overspent?



Don't confuse the one-track minds.
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
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Woot!

And I hope they keep it shut down for at least another couple of months!
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
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Only the President can shut the Gov down Rick...

lay off the Lime Jello laced with Oxy and milk of Magnesia,,,


wheel,
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The gouberment has been Barry-caded
ZRX1200 Offline
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I hear Chewbacca is cutting back to 2 dozen Hotwings per day until this is resolved.
sd72 Offline
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I doubt it.
sd72 Offline
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I would like to see her covered in Asian zing sauce, screaming "come hither' with her eyes.
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You're one sick Bassard... Mellow
HockeyDad Offline
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I love ponzu sauce
pabloescabar Offline
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sometimes you are so full of **** Rick it aint funny...but this time it's **** funny
rfenst Offline
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I blame Boehner and the Tea Party Rs for their political game. But, Obama is riding out the other half for political gain (handed to him on a sliver platter). Don't see any reason at all why Obama (or any President) should be forced to negotiate anything unrelated to this shut down.
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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Abrignac


when i think of that party pubic comes to mind
ZRX1200 Offline
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Peppermint Paty?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
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Abrignac

are you not aware of the 5 famalies that have lost their son

or husband and won't get the lifeinsurance policy that would

allow them to fly to where the bodies will return to the states

and may not have the money to bury them?

or don't youi care?
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putz

no one gives a $hit what you hope or.
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cacman Offline
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rfenst wrote:
I blame Boehner and the Tea Party Rs for their political game. But, Obama is riding out the other half for political gain (handed to him on a sliver platter). Don't see any reason at all why Obama (or any President) should be forced to negotiate anything unrelated to this shut down.

Don't understand how it can be called a Politcal game and be blamed on the Repubs.
Democratic Congress hasn't passed a budget in years - Since the big 'Os' first term
Democratic Congress spends money like a drunken sailor, to the point the debt ceiling needs to be raised so Congress asks for more money to cover what they already overspent. Ignoring and refusing to address the fact that they overspent to begin with.
The Republican House says 'wait a minute'. We're not giving you any more money to spend until you come up with a budget and reduce expenses. You can't say you are reducing the deficit at the same time you are asking for a loan to cover monies overspent.
Democratic Congress and the President throws a hissy fit like a 4yr old at the toy store when he's told he can't have any more toys. The 'boy' refuses to accept his parents don't have the money. He demands his parents pay for the toys he promised himself last Christmas and bought without permission, and agree to buy more or the family is not leaving the store.

That's how I see it.
ACA - legislation pushed through by some back door manuevers by Democrats. Pelosi's comment of "Pass it before we can understand what's in it" comes to mind.
Supreme Court - staffed with choices made by a Democratic President that support his agenda. Of course his cronies will say it's Constitutional. That why he put them there - to pass his ACA. The President has also appointed a number of personnel through backhand deals and loopholes to get 'his' people in office while circumventing the process.
Executive Orders - just how many has this President pushed through? Again circumventing the process.

They all (Pres, Congress, House) need to be fired for not doing their jobs, and Term Limits need to be set. House & Congress should not be allowed to sit in office any longer than the Pres.
The Guberment should not be exempt from the same laws it imparts on the people. The guberment is not the 'largest private employer' in the USA. That would imply this Country actually makes money and wouldn't need to borrow any to cover expenses. Instead our guberment is the largest publicly funded non-profit organization in the USA, and subject to the same ridicule the Democrats put on non-profits they didn't agree with.

Don't spend what you don't have, then it won't be a problem to pay the bill.
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Abrignac Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
Abrignac

are you not aware of the 5 famalies that have lost their son

or husband and won't get the lifeinsurance policy that would

allow them to fly to where the bodies will return to the states

and may not have the money to bury them?

or don't youi care?
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putz

no one gives a $hit what you hope or.
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I'm thinking the money spent opening the mall for advocacy of illegal aliens while shut down to everyone else would have been better spent sending the bodies of these heroes home. I'm guessing you were rallying alongside the soon to be democrats though.
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troll

Seems you must since you replied.
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HockeyDad Offline
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
Abrignac

are you not aware of the 5 famalies that have lost their son

or husband and won't get the lifeinsurance policy that would

allow them to fly to where the bodies will return to the states

and may not have the money to bury them?

or don't youi care?



PEOPLE NEED TO STOP GETTING KILLED FOR OBAMA'S WARS!
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I heard raising the debt ceiling doesn't create more debt.... Mellow
cacman Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I heard raising the debt ceiling doesn't create more debt.... Mellow

... it only allows them to borrow and spend more.
Gonz
DrafterX Offline
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I think they already spent it.... Think
cacman Offline
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DrafterX wrote:
I think they already spent it.... Think

Yes... now they have to borrow more to pay for it. Extending the debt limit also allows them to spend more.
That's the problem when you spend without having a budget.
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rfenst wrote:
I blame Boehner and the Tea Party Rs for their political game. But, Obama is riding out the other half for political gain (handed to him on a sliver platter). Don't see any reason at all why Obama (or any President) should be forced to negotiate anything unrelated to this shut down.


I'm with you Robert. I blame the Dems for no budget in the last few years, but the Senate passed a budget in the spring and it could have been in committee all along. Boehner chose not to as a strategy. The tea party didn't want to settle things, they want to defund or delay Obamacare at all cost (or at least make political points acting like it).

I don't understand why they are pretending like that isn't the case. If you beleive so strongly in it good on you. Own it. Fight it. Do the right thing. But don't pretend you are not. The tea party is proving they are not as principled as they would have you beleive but they are also slimy politicians playing a game just like all the others. They are no better than any other R, RINO, or Demo.

Just be honest.... damn straight we said defund Obamacare or we'll burn down the house because we beleive Obamacare will burn down the house and we would rather have a controlled burn than an out of control wildfire.

But instead we get the pretend we didn't do it we want to comprimise.... negotiate....etc. The tea party by nature is not a party of comprimise. They hold them selves as being more pricipled and the only ones that know the right way because everyone else has effed things up. Members of their own party (If you call the republicans their own party) are their enemy and they intend to clear them out of the way. Anyone who doesn't think like them is simply wrong. When you define the other side as the devil or completely wrong it is hard to comprimise.

But now we are to beleive they are doe eyed deer that want to comprimise and the mean ol prez and reed will not do it. This is about the first time someone stood up to them. Boehner certainly doesn't. He was pretty clear he didn't beleive in this path up until he was forced to take it.

That's not to say the prez or the Dems are innocent in all this. I think they decided the terrain was right to stand up to the Tea Party. They could have done it previously or they could do it later on something less important. They are not stupid (contrary to some in here) and they knew the risk. They may have even hoped the tea party and Boehner were dumb enough to dig in.

So both partys knew what could and would happen here and chose that path. Typically the Dems blink (just like Boehner blinks within his own caucus) to the squeaky wheel (the Tea baggers). So they are both responsible for this to varying degrees. If the dems had just capitulated to the teabaggers this wouldn't have happened. And vice versa.

Somewhere along the way comprimise became evil. This is what happens.

Signed Fencepost.
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
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I put a sticky note on the 'fridge.
wheelrite Offline
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pabloescabar wrote:
sometimes you are so full of **** Rick it aint funny...but this time it's **** funny



Pablo ,

where you been ?
jackconrad Offline
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IRRESPOSIBLE NIMWITTED SELF SERVING ELECTED PARTY PROPERTIES SHUT THE Govt down...
wheelrite Offline
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Shut it down and restore States rights !

or give me free porn and a snap card,,,


wheel,
jackconrad Offline
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Don't you have a ROKU ??^^
wheelrite Offline
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jackconrad wrote:
Don't you have a ROKU ??^^


no but a huge Johnson,,,
jackconrad Offline
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Adminstative Assistant Concubine outrage !! ^^
cacman Offline
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jackconrad wrote:
Adminstative Assistant Concubine outrage !! ^^

^^ Take that outrage up with the Secret Service.
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
Abrignac

are you not aware of the 5 famalies that have lost their son

or husband and won't get the lifeinsurance policy that would

allow them to fly to where the bodies will return to the states

and may not have the money to bury them?

or don't youi care?
===================================

putz

no one gives a $hit what you hope or.
====================================

I like to save these quotes for later, in case of editing by the o.p.

Done. Carry on. Whistle
pabloescabar Offline
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Hanging out with my Johnson,,,
bloody spaniard Offline
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Pablo wafts in like a warm wind & floats out like the flotsam in an ocean current.Gonz
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Can ANYONE (Especially the "REPUBLICAN posters) please EXPLAIN in plain English WHY DID SENATOR REID D-NV REFUSE to allow 8 bills for funding portions of the government to prevent the total shutdown? Of the 8 bills - National Park service, Veterans Administration, DHS, Social Security, etc.. What most WORKING people consider essential.

Secondly Can this who think the Republicans shut down the government explain the National Park Closure signs being posted 8 hours into the shut down? Please explain how a sign contract be entered, design made, product approved and then distributed nationwide all in 8 hours???? I have worked with the government and NEVER seen something like this in 27 years. This points to a PLANNED operation and WHO is the LEADER that gave the printers the go ahead to make the signs and distribute them on the day of the shut down (hint it wasn't a REPUBLICAN)... My guess the signs were printed 2 weeks before the shut down...

Have you ever negotiated with a hard-nose? "I VOW NOT TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE REPUBLICANS!!!" Kind of hard to work in a collaborative manner when the POTUS is SCREAMING this multiple times. This is not to mention Senator Reid's antics.

By the way - "clean Bill" - where does the dam come into play..... OH YES Senator Reid had to BUY the votes to get the bill passed, BUT refused to look at anything coming from the House.

You "REPUBLICANS" shouters are (choose the ones that fit) 1) on the government entitlement roles, 2) Slept through the US History courses in school where the budgetary process was explained (president submits to the House the House approves or modifies, the Senate then votes and POTUS signs, 3) Look for a simple way to point fingers... why not just say "It's Bush's fault"... 4) are brainwashed by the liberal press and not interested it looking at FACTS.

I can only wait and laugh when you see what ACA does for you. If you are on a corporate plan look for two things. First is the increase in your deductible (you might have the same premiums,. but the deductible will jump). Second will occur in 2015 when corporations has to play with ACA - the premiums will increase. It is business, insurance business to be exact. Third will be your primary doctor will probably cease to exist. I can only hope that there will be something left of Social Security and Medicare when you get old enough to draw on them.
HockeyDad Offline
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bacracer wrote:
Can ANYONE (Especially the "REPUBLICAN posters) please EXPLAIN in plain English WHY DID SENATOR REID D-NV REFUSE to allow 8 bills for funding portions of the government to prevent the total shutdown? Of the 8 bills - National Park service, Veterans Administration, DHS, Social Security, etc.. What most WORKING people consider essential.

Secondly Can this who think the Republicans shut down the government explain the National Park Closure signs being posted 8 hours into the shut down? Please explain how a sign contract be entered, design made, product approved and then distributed nationwide all in 8 hours???? I have worked with the government and NEVER seen something like this in 27 years. This points to a PLANNED operation and WHO is the LEADER that gave the printers the go ahead to make the signs and distribute them on the day of the shut down (hint it wasn't a REPUBLICAN)... My guess the signs were printed 2 weeks before the shut down...

Have you ever negotiated with a hard-nose? "I VOW NOT TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE REPUBLICANS!!!" Kind of hard to work in a collaborative manner when the POTUS is SCREAMING this multiple times. This is not to mention Senator Reid's antics.

By the way - "clean Bill" - where does the dam come into play..... OH YES Senator Reid had to BUY the votes to get the bill passed, BUT refused to look at anything coming from the House.

You "REPUBLICANS" shouters are (choose the ones that fit) 1) on the government entitlement roles, 2) Slept through the US History courses in school where the budgetary process was explained (president submits to the House the House approves or modifies, the Senate then votes and POTUS signs, 3) Look for a simple way to point fingers... why not just say "It's Bush's fault"... 4) are brainwashed by the liberal press and not interested it looking at FACTS.

I can only wait and laugh when you see what ACA does for you. If you are on a corporate plan look for two things. First is the increase in your deductible (you might have the same premiums,. but the deductible will jump). Second will occur in 2015 when corporations has to play with ACA - the premiums will increase. It is business, insurance business to be exact. Third will be your primary doctor will probably cease to exist. I can only hope that there will be something left of Social Security and Medicare when you get old enough to draw on them.



Obama won. Get over it.
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Reid sucks... Mellow
teedubbya Offline
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bacracer wrote:
Can ANYONE (Especially the "REPUBLICAN posters) please EXPLAIN in plain English WHY DID SENATOR REID D-NV REFUSE to allow 8 bills for funding portions of the government to prevent the total shutdown? Of the 8 bills - National Park service, Veterans Administration, DHS, Social Security, etc.. What most WORKING people consider essential.

Secondly Can this who think the Republicans shut down the government explain the National Park Closure signs being posted 8 hours into the shut down? Please explain how a sign contract be entered, design made, product approved and then distributed nationwide all in 8 hours???? I have worked with the government and NEVER seen something like this in 27 years. This points to a PLANNED operation and WHO is the LEADER that gave the printers the go ahead to make the signs and distribute them on the day of the shut down (hint it wasn't a REPUBLICAN)... My guess the signs were printed 2 weeks before the shut down...

Have you ever negotiated with a hard-nose? "I VOW NOT TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE REPUBLICANS!!!" Kind of hard to work in a collaborative manner when the POTUS is SCREAMING this multiple times. This is not to mention Senator Reid's antics.

By the way - "clean Bill" - where does the dam come into play..... OH YES Senator Reid had to BUY the votes to get the bill passed, BUT refused to look at anything coming from the House.

You "REPUBLICANS" shouters are (choose the ones that fit) 1) on the government entitlement roles, 2) Slept through the US History courses in school where the budgetary process was explained (president submits to the House the House approves or modifies, the Senate then votes and POTUS signs, 3) Look for a simple way to point fingers... why not just say "It's Bush's fault"... 4) are brainwashed by the liberal press and not interested it looking at FACTS.

I can only wait and laugh when you see what ACA does for you. If you are on a corporate plan look for two things. First is the increase in your deductible (you might have the same premiums,. but the deductible will jump). Second will occur in 2015 when corporations has to play with ACA - the premiums will increase. It is business, insurance business to be exact. Third will be your primary doctor will probably cease to exist. I can only hope that there will be something left of Social Security and Medicare when you get old enough to draw on them.





For the same reason Boener didn't put a clean continuing resolution up for a vote even though it would have passed and that would have been that. Maybe Boener should have done so first since it was on the table before the ill concieved last ditch effort by the defacto speaker of the house cruz and his chronies chose to use the strategy of introducing bills for several days that they knew were DOA merely for later political spin.
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Government shutdown? What shutdown? Did the Obama phones stop working? Didn't the park service have numerous check points set up preventing people from going into open air parks? Did any entitlement checks not go out? Didn't federal workers get paid for extra vacation days? Did they send the troops home? Did they ......, ..., ..., ..., ..., ,,, or ...?

I guess I missed something.

(Shrugs shoulders)
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So you would suggest it never shut down based on that criteria? There were over 2 weeks with no work being done yet we paid for it. There will be overtime paid (ultimately) for those things that myust happen and were delayed (survey and certificaiton of medical providers etc.). I've got some contracts that have not yet been awarded because something happened. My accounts have not been made whole yet and there was a personal ripple effect when I cut several expenses (YMCA, Day Care, etc..... even new beer purchases LOL)
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teedubbya wrote:
My accounts have not been made whole yet and there was a personal ripple effect when I cut several expenses (YMCA, Day Care, etc..... even new beer purchases LOL)


Young man, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, there's a place you can go.
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough.
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.

They have everything for you men to enjoy,
You can hang out with all the boys ...

It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.
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teedubbya wrote:
So you would suggest it never shut down based on that criteria? I've got some contracts that have not yet been awarded because something happened. My accounts have not been made whole yet and there was a personal ripple effect when I cut several expenses (YMCA, Day Care, etc..... even new beer purchases LOL)




shut·down (shtdoun)
n.
A cessation of operations or activity, as at a factory.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.



ces·sa·tion (s-sshn)
n.
A bringing or coming to an end; a ceasing: a cessation of hostilities.
[Middle English cessacioun, from Old French cessation, from Latin cessti, cesstin-, from cesstus, past participle of cessre, to stop; see cease.]
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.


post·pone (pst-pn, ps-pn)
tr.v. post·poned, post·pon·ing, post·pones
1. To delay until a future time; put off. See Synonyms at defer1.
2. To place after in importance; subordinate.
[Latin postpnere : post-, post- + pnere, to put; see post2.]
post·pona·ble adj.
post·ponement n.
post·poner n.
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You are correct. There was never a government shutdown. There was a large percentage of government functions that were posponed. The President being the head of the administrative branch was the SOLE person with COMPLETE control over which functions continued and which functions were postponed. Had the government actually shutdown them I'm guessing the park police would not have barricaded said open air parks.

Politics as usual. One side blames the other to gain an advantage in the elections. But, regardless of which party is in control it's the citizens who lose.
HockeyDad Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
My accounts have not been made whole yet and there was a personal ripple effect when I cut several expenses (YMCA, Day Care, etc..... even new beer purchases LOL)



...and yet no Federal employees quit over the non-shutdown. Those who were non-essential get 2 weeks paid leave for their service as pawns in game.
HockeyDad Offline
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teedubbya wrote:
SThere were over 2 weeks with no work being done yet we paid for it.


Sounds like a perfectly normal Fed-worker month!
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I don't care if anyone quit or not, I certainly wasn't going to. I worked and will get paid.

If the plan is to suggest there never was a shutdown I'd prolly find another.

We have an annual conference that wasn't cancelled it was just postponed until next year.

Words are fun until you get side effected of them.
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teedubbya wrote:
I don't care if anyone quit or not, I certainly wasn't going to. I worked and will get paid.


Like anyone else who provides services for an employer you should get paid.

teedubbya wrote:

If the plan is to suggest there never was a shutdown I'd prolly find another.


Plan for what?

teedubbya wrote:

We have an annual conference that wasn't cancelled it was just postponed until next year.


There ya go.

teedubbya wrote:

Words are fun until you get side effected of them.


Played well by those who sit on both sides of the isle.
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