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Taps86 Offline
#51 Posted:
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Abrignac wrote:
I started this thread and I was here.

Ban hammer should be here shortly.



I'm sure he has reported this thread and the other multiple times.


Beer Beer Beer
Taps86 Offline
#52 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
and that's just it... who got taken advantage of..?? or do you just think someone got taken advantage of..?? why aren't they complaining..??
Do you walk into a bar and rearrange the furniture also..??


noobs... Not talking Not talking Not talking



Have you not seen the threads....


http://www.cigarbid.com/...5/cigars-for-the-troops

http://www.cigarbid.com/...Acid-cigars#post2306407

http://www.cigarbid.com/...d-Day-Today#post2304683

http://www.cigarbid.com/...5/Troop-Bombing-Contest



Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
05busa,



That will be quite enough with the panhandling. In the two months you have been posting here, you have panhandled for cigars in over half a dozen different threadjacks.



In some threads you claim to be sending the cigars to a friend serving overseas, while in other threads you claim that it is the wife of a soldier that is doing the sending. Your story and your claims change in every one of your panhandling threadjacks.



Regardless, you are not a benevolent registered non-profit organization that ships out to multiple units and will happily add any additional unit who requests it to the shipping rotation. You are simply an individual who is badgering everyone here so you can take up a collection and send it to your friend.



There is no accountability whatsoever for your method of collection and supposed reshipping of said items.



You offer inaccurate information regarding shipping costs and paperwork as a reason for S/BOTLs to send cigars to you rather than directly to the troops. This behavior is highly suspicious and when coupled with the above noted behavior/information makes you appear to be very much less than what you claim and who you might actually be.



Some examples:

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You start your own “Support MY troops thread, and even have the audacity to tell one of the co-founders of OpFTH that what they’re doing isn’t good enough and you just want people to send cigars directly to you so that you can send them to YOUR friend and none other:



http://www.cigarbid.com/...geDisplay=0000000087197



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Here, you try and hijack AndyTV’s latest Troop Auction for your own personal gain:



(Post # 149 and # 151)



http://www.cigarbid.com/...play=0000000085738#mbot



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This is just plain rude and thoroughly asinine where you shamelessly attempt to undermine docrks and via the posting of inaccurate information as you attempt to have S/BOTLs send cigars to you rather than directly to the troops:



(Posts # 83 through # 86

http://www.cigarbid.com/...play=0000000086359#mbot



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“Pathetic” is the only word that comes to mind to describe how you even attempt to solicit donations in one of RICKAMAVENS political debate threads:



(Post # 6)

http://www.cigarbid.com/...geDisplay=0000000090715



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I know that I’m sick of seeing your groveling and panhandling posts, and I suspect that there are other S/BOTLs here that are too, so please, take your posts of that nature somewhere else.


Taps86 Offline
#53 Posted:
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jarhead72485 wrote:
Anyone want these awesome glass box top cubans my friend got me on a vacation to Dom. Republic??



DO NOT SEND HIM THOSE... He will try to pass them on as legit CC!!!
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#54 Posted:
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jarhead72485 wrote:
Anyone want these awesome glass box top cubans my friend got me on a vacation to Dom. Republic??



If you're serious, there is one guy here, I can't remember who though, who collects fake cuban cigars, bands and boxes as curios.
LongDrive Offline
#55 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
No, I just call it like I see it. Respect is not a GIVEN, It's earned in my book.


The only way to truly earn my respect is by choking down the cigars I send you that you do not care for to the nub...

Sarcasm
DrafterX Offline
#56 Posted:
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Posts: 98,601



I also read the thread where Gerbil wished he didn't post it.. what is your facination with it..??

drama queens I tells ya... Not talking Not talking
Taps86 Offline
#57 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
I also read the thread where Gerbil wished he didn't post it.. what is your facination with it..??

drama queens I tells ya... Not talking Not talking



The TRUTH is The TRUTH... Why cover chit up when it will still stink......
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#58 Posted:
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As I stated in the other thread when you quoted all of that the first time...


That was a long time ago, right when he started posting here, before I or anyone actually got to know Anth.

Once I got to know him, I realized that I had misjudged him and he's not a bad guy at all, that the "stupid" posts he made were his way of dealing with being an over stressed cop who had seen more than his share of **** and had a pair of demanding twin girls at home to top it off. In retrospect, I regret making that post 6-7 years ago.
DrafterX Offline
#59 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
The TRUTH is The TRUTH... Why cover chit up when it will still stink......



why are you uncovering chit that don't matter..? and reading into posts for some hidden meaning..??

on that's right... the drama.. d'oh!
jarhead72485 Offline
#60 Posted:
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
If you're serious, there is one guy here, I can't remember who though, who collects fake cuban cigars, bands and boxes as curios.



that's pretty cool, but no i wasn't serious. if you remember who though, send me a pm. my pops goes down a lot and has had quite a few people offer fakes.
Taps86 Offline
#61 Posted:
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DrafterX wrote:
why are you uncovering chit that don't matter..? and reading into posts for some hidden meaning..??

on that's right... the drama.. d'oh!



Is it that hard to figure out??????
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#62 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
DO NOT SEND HIM THOSE... He will try to pass them on as legit CC!!!


Don't let Taps86 within 500 yards of a school! He likes to diddle little boys!





Kinda presumptuous, don't you think? Jumping from mooching accusations to passing off counterfeits as legit.
TIGERCDW Offline
#63 Posted:
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This one time at band camp...oh forget it.

Carry on.

TIGER
DrafterX Offline
#64 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
Is it that hard to figure out??????



no it wasn't.... it's for the drama... Mellow
TIGERCDW Offline
#65 Posted:
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This has now officially been kicked up a notch.

TIGER
LongDrive Offline
#66 Posted:
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Hey cmon now... Taps must have at least passed the background check to be head of security around here. If your looking for him at school he can be found in the drama dept.
Taps86 Offline
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Don't let Taps86 within 500 yards of a school! He likes to diddle little boys!





Kinda presumptuous, don't you think? Jumping from mooching to passing off counterfeits as legit.



Not at all with the crap he has pulled here... Would not put it past him one bit....

Taps86 Offline
#68 Posted:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cVSasBA-vg
ZRX1200 Offline
#69 Posted:
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Taps your context isn't the same as someone who's been here longer......noobs not realizing that and taking me saying that as an insult are too worried about themselves.

Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#70 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
Not at all with the crap he has pulled here... Would not put it past him one bit....




With all the drama you've pulled here, I wouldn't put diddling little boys past you either.


Correlation doesn't imply causation, but since we're throwing random **** at the wall hoping it will stick, I just thought I'd put that out there.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#71 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cVSasBA-vg



Oookkkay...

That was random.
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Taps86 Offline
#73 Posted:
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ZRX1200 wrote:
Taps your context isn't the same as someone who's been here longer......noobs not realizing that and taking me saying that as an insult are too worried about themselves.




Taking you seriously, Your good people.
rfenst Offline
#74 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
Not at all with the crap he has pulled here... Would not put it past him one bit....



Can you PROVE one single instance?
Taps86 Offline
#75 Posted:
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
With all the drama you've pulled here, I wouldn't put diddling little boys past you either.


Correlation doesn't imply causation, but since we're throwing random **** at the wall hoping it will stick, I just thought I'd put that out there.



You calling me Sandusky....


horse horse horse
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#76 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
You calling me Sandusky....


horse horse horse


Oh, so you've been accused of it before?


EXCELLENT! Therefore it must be true!





(see how retarded all of this is getting?)
Ilovetosmoke68 Offline
#77 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
You calling me Sandusky....


horse horse horse


Gonz
wheelrite Offline
#78 Posted:
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burp...


wheel,
DaQueenBeez Offline
#79 Posted:
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Good grief - asking for prayers is not mooching!!!!! Numi did the same for his little grandson - that wasn't mooching either! As far as I am aware, Busa has had no dealings/trades with ANY of the people who are so offended by his consumption of oxygen. The posters who are offended by "where's mine" have not been around here long enough to know that it's a running gag - that's fine. But at least be sensible enough to take word of people who WERE here when it started when they tell you that it is, in fact, a running gag. As for re-gifting, my opinion is: it is a GIFT. Once you give an item as a gift, it is no longer yours. If you wish to exercise any kind of control or authority over how the gift is used, IF the gift is used - ANYTHING... you never actually gave it. You retained a bit of ownership of the item. That's not a gift. I am 110% in agreement with TG on this one - if I give someone something that they cannot use or do not like, but it gives that person the ability to be generous with someone who DOES like it, then my gift was useful to them and it WAS used by them. That makes me happy. It's not a slap in the face. Keeping the item and letting it rot in a storage box or the bottom of the "dog rocket" humi instead of sharing would be more likely to bother me. How many people have bagged up cigars that don't suit them and sent them to OpFTH? Wouldn't that count as "regifting?" Is it okay for the troops, but not for you? I don't think I like that. There's also the claim that a cigar that was specifically asked for was regifted. First of all, I think it's tacky to be keeping such close tabs on everyone's inventory, but that's just me. Second, what if he got more than one? Is he not allowed to have more than the one he was gifted? What if he was gifted more than one, stumbled across one in a B&M somewhere...whatever...and wanted to share something he enjoyed with someone else? Why is that horrible? Why is it anyone's business but Busa's? Opinions are like belly buttons - we all have one, and that's mine.
Opinion, that is. I'll keep my belly button to myself.
Taps86 Offline
#80 Posted:
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DaQueenBeez wrote:
Good grief - asking for prayers is not mooching!!!!! Numi did the same for his little grandson - that wasn't mooching either! As far as I am aware, Busa has had no dealings/trades with ANY of the people who are so offended by his consumption of oxygen. The posters who are offended by "where's mine" have not been around here long enough to know that it's a running gag - that's fine. But at least be sensible enough to take word of people who WERE here when it started when they tell you that it is, in fact, a running gag. As for re-gifting, my opinion is: it is a GIFT. Once you give an item as a gift, it is no longer yours. If you wish to exercise any kind of control or authority over how the gift is used, IF the gift is used - ANYTHING... you never actually gave it. You retained a bit of ownership of the item. That's not a gift. I am 110% in agreement with TG on this one - if I give someone something that they cannot use or do not like, but it gives that person the ability to be generous with someone who DOES like it, then my gift was useful to them and it WAS used by them. That makes me happy. It's not a slap in the face. Keeping the item and letting it rot in a storage box or the bottom of the "dog rocket" humi instead of sharing would be more likely to bother me. How many people have bagged up cigars that don't suit them and sent them to OpFTH? Wouldn't that count as "regifting?" Is it okay for the troops, but not for you? I don't think I like that. There's also the claim that a cigar that was specifically asked for was regifted. First of all, I think it's tacky to be keeping such close tabs on everyone's inventory, but that's just me. Second, what if he got more than one? Is he not allowed to have more than the one he was gifted? What if he was gifted more than one, stumbled across one in a B&M somewhere...whatever...and wanted to share something he enjoyed with someone else? Why is that horrible? Why is it anyone's business but Busa's? Opinions are like belly buttons - we all have one, and that's mine.
Opinion, that is. I'll keep my belly button to myself.


So when a ISO is posted or a Ill take those cigars... Do you expect to see them traded. No. If your not going to smoke them why take them or ask for them??
shaun341 Offline
#81 Posted:
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I would like to understand something. Since I am newer to cigars and forums why do people continuosly post their misfortunes on a forum. I would think one has family and friends to turn to in a time of need and if not what does that say about ones character.

Now if my close family member where ill this would be the last place I would post about it. I would come here to take mind off it for a brief moment not spark more thoughts about it.

If some misfortune happened and there is a benefit or charity of some sort then yeah I get it spread the word. Honestly though friends and family are what you should lean on in a time of need not a handle on a forum.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#82 Posted:
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Taps, how many and what cigars did you give Busa that he allegedly did that with that has you so chafed?
dkeage Offline
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shaun341 wrote:
I would like to understand something. Since I am newer to cigars and forums why do people continuosly post their misfortunes on a forum. I would think one has family and friends to turn to in a time of need and if not what does that say about ones character.

Now if my close family member where ill this would be the last place I would post about it. I would come here to take mind off it for a brief moment not spark more thoughts about it.

If some misfortune happened and there is a benefit or charity of some sort then yeah I get it spread the word. Honestly though friends and family are what you should lean on in a time of need not a handle on a forum.

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NINE
Taps86 Offline
#85 Posted:
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shaun341 wrote:
I would like to understand something. Since I am newer to cigars and forums why do people continuosly post their misfortunes on a forum. I would think one has family and friends to turn to in a time of need and if not what does that say about ones character.

Now if my close family member where ill this would be the last place I would post about it. I would come here to take mind off it for a brief moment not spark more thoughts about it.

If some misfortune happened and there is a benefit or charity of some sort then yeah I get it spread the word. Honestly though friends and family are what you should lean on in a time of need not a handle on a forum.





My final post on this crap......




Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause
shaun341 Offline
#86 Posted:
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Oh and by the way I live about an hour from busa and there is no such thing as an overstressed cop in that area. Maybe a stressfull homelife but not at work. They make very good money for the area and a large portion of my friends are cops and correction officers so I know what they call stressfull and it does not compare to the average persons work day.
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kombat96 wrote:
NINE



Are you counting beers? Cause you missed the post count by a bit. Heck, you didn't even hit a multiple. . .
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#88 Posted:
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shaun341 wrote:
I would like to understand something. Since I am newer to cigars and forums why do people continuosly post their misfortunes on a forum. I would think one has family and friends to turn to in a time of need and if not what does that say about ones character.

Now if my close family member where ill this would be the last place I would post about it. I would come here to take mind off it for a brief moment not spark more thoughts about it.

If some misfortune happened and there is a benefit or charity of some sort then yeah I get it spread the word. Honestly though friends and family are what you should lean on in a time of need not a handle on a forum.



Shaun, different people deal with things in their own ways. We've become a digital society, to some, having an a friend over an electronic medium such as a forum or facebook et. al, is just as good as a friend down the street. That's their choice to share things to those people in this fashion, there's nothing wrong with it, it's just different than how you might deal with it.

Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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shaun341 wrote:
Oh and by the way I live about an hour from busa and there is no such thing as an overstressed cop in that area. Maybe a stressfull homelife but not at work. They make very good money for the area and a large portion of my friends are cops and correction officers so I know what they call stressfull and it does not compare to the average persons work day.


He didn't work in that area 7 years ago.

Glad to know though that you know more about his life than he does.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
#90 Posted:
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Taps86 wrote:
My final post on this crap......




Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause



Before you go, could you please answer my question?

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Taps, how many and what cigars did you give Busa that he allegedly did that with that has you so chafed?



Thanks.
dkeage Offline
#91 Posted:
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
Before you go, could you please answer my question?




Thanks.

Adam....specifics just muddy stuff....you know that. Beer
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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I know Kipp, I know.... /sigh
DaQueenBeez Offline
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shaun341 wrote:
I would like to understand something. Since I am newer to cigars and forums why do people continuosly post their misfortunes on a forum. I would think one has family and friends to turn to in a time of need and if not what does that say about ones character.

Now if my close family member where ill this would be the last place I would post about it. I would come here to take mind off it for a brief moment not spark more thoughts about it.

If some misfortune happened and there is a benefit or charity of some sort then yeah I get it spread the word. Honestly though friends and family are what you should lean on in a time of need not a handle on a forum.



Well, in Busa's situation, the family is what's causing the stress. Everyone is already overwhelmed in their own right, so this is a place that isn't quite so "close to home." Saying that posting here means that he has no "real" friends is kind of presumtuous and (rude word deleted.)
In other cases, the disinterested third party is what you need. In still other cases, a person sometimes just has to get something off their chest. On a forum, with a handle rather than a name with a bunch of relatively anonymous, faceless handle-wearers who don't know you from adam...you still get human feedback and responses, but it's not *personal.* People you'll probably never meet in your lifetime are kind of "safe" in that way.

Then again, there are just as many that we haven't met yet but speak to on the phone, in text/ IM, on FB... the world has gotten very small. Different kinds of friendships in the world today - and that's not necessarily a bad thing. It's fine if it doesn't suit you, but you shouldn't judge people who feel differently.

In the broader scope, I don't think there's such a thing as an inappropriate place to ask for prayers for ANY reason. I have family and friends who have prayed for kids in amber alerts, troops overseas, etc., whom we have never met and only heard of through electronic media. I certainly don't have a problem adding someone who posts here about a FIL or grandchild who has cancer or a heart condition or whatever.

Much the same way that you seem to think that someone who posts problems here must have poor character and no friends, I think that telling someone to go bother their REAL friends with their problems and don't ask me to pray for them or even tell me about them speaks about ones character as well. I think it's wonderful that we have the ability to connect with people on many different levels these days.
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+ ∞.

TIGER
shaun341 Offline
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Thunder.Gerbil wrote:
He didn't work in that area 7 years ago.

Glad to know though that you know more about his life than he does.


read the entire post, what I stated applied to that area and excluded his home life. I am sorry but as I said I have many friends in the police and fire union and I do know more about that area and the job then probably everyone except for Busa and I would be the other side of the argument and if his overstessed cop career only existed 7 yrs ago then why does he still post his stupid 2 word post.


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DaQueenBeez wrote:

Much the same way that you seem to think that someone who posts problems here must have poor character and no friends, I think that telling someone to go bother their REAL friends with their problems and don't ask me to pray for them or even tell me about them speaks about ones character as well. I think it's wonderful that we have the ability to connect with people on many different levels these days.



See this is where I see a favoritism cause Busa is a familiar name to you vets. Who in their right mind would consider someone a friend if they thought talking to someone about this circumstance would be a bother. I also never said don't pray or do whatever it is that you wish to do, but those actions like to be thrown out there to cusion your side of the argument.

On a realistic note though I disagree about considering people you only know from forums and social media friends. Acquaintances or good people is one thing but how much do you really know about a person over social media? For all you know I am some male that lives in south jersey in my mid 30s. I could have just posted that stuff and be something entirely opposite.
Thunder.Gerbil Offline
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shaun341 wrote:
read the entire post, what I stated applied to that area and excluded his home life. I am sorry but as I said I have many friends in the police and fire union and I do know more about that area and the job then probably everyone except for Busa and I would be the other side of the argument and if his overstessed cop career only existed 7 yrs ago then why does he still post his stupid 2 word post.





You just don't get it, do you? How do you know what he went through? Oh, some friends of yours told you or you assumed that they didn't have a stressful job, therefore you jumped to the conclusion that he didn't.

Great detective work there, Lou.


As for Anth's 2 word posts, there's an ignore function you can use if they bother you that much, although your own lack of punctuation and sentence structure leaves much to be desired of.
TIGERCDW Offline
#98 Posted:
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I am a male and live in NEPA.

Now send me cigars.

Thank you.

TIGER
DaQueenBeez Offline
#99 Posted:
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shaun341 wrote:


On a realistic note though I disagree about considering people you only know from forums and social media friends. Acquaintances or good people is one thing but how much do you really know about a person over social media? For all you know I am some male that lives in south jersey in my mid 30s. I could have just posted that stuff and be something entirely opposite.






(((shrug))) Well it would definitely explain your claimed personal knowledge about Busa's work environment.

Whether deliberately or unintentionally I can't tell, but you're misreading what I said. When I say that it's wonderful to be able to connect with people on many different levels, that's exactly what I mean - many different levels. Neighbor down the street is different from penpal is different from crazy uncle is different from coworker is different from FB friend, etc. All real human connections, but all different kinds of connections. FWIW, there are a couple of people I met here whom I know better and telephone more than I do my neighbor down the road OR my crazy uncle, and I do consider them my friends. The rest of you are just here for my entertainment - DANCE, MONKEY! DANCE! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
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I thought I was special.... pout.
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