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victor809 Offline
#1 Posted: Thu, Jan 9 2014, 1:54 PM EST
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I am posting this here for no reason other than to stir the pot.

http://news.yahoo.com/pro-life-vs-pro-israel-104500172--politics.html
DrafterX Offline
#2 Posted: Thu, Jan 9 2014, 1:56 PM EST
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Did you snopes it..?? Huh
dstieger Offline
#3 Posted: Thu, Jan 9 2014, 2:22 PM EST
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das Herrenvolk?
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#4 Posted: Thu, Jan 9 2014, 2:46 PM EST
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Meh, it's their country.
tailgater Offline
#5 Posted: Thu, Jan 9 2014, 3:38 PM EST
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I heard that the abortion only gets full coverage if the mother is able to goose-step to the clinic, and the doctor has to wear a tiny mustache.
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#6 Posted: Thu, Jan 9 2014, 9:14 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I am posting this here for no reason other than I am a man loving Homo



yes,,,,
TMCTLT Offline
#7 Posted: Fri, Jan 10 2014, 8:02 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
I am posting this here for no reason other than to stir the pot.

http://news.yahoo.com/pro-life-vs-pro-israel-104500172--politics.html




So what your saying is.....It's just like any other day.....and like any of your past posts? Whistle
tailgater Offline
#8 Posted: Fri, Jan 10 2014, 9:33 AM EST
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I prefer my pot shaken, not stirred.
victor809 Offline
#9 Posted: Fri, Jan 10 2014, 12:33 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
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So what your saying is.....It's just like any other day.....and like any of your past posts? Whistle


No. Sometimes I'm actually curious what other people's opinions are on a topic.

don't worry, I never care what your opinion is.
Brewha Offline
#10 Posted: Fri, Jan 10 2014, 1:27 PM EST
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I hear a lot of complaining in this country about tax dollars being used for medically approved abortions. And the US should NOT fund any medical procedure that goes against the beliefs of any church that pays taxes. Unless they are out voted . . . .
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#11 Posted: Sun, Jan 12 2014, 5:07 PM EST
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I actually deal with a lot of Jews and Israelis.

The assumption here is obviously that all Israelis are the guys you see at the Wailing Wall. They are not. They consider those guys as being part of a cult. So victor's article us not surprising as he obviouly is just as ignorant as everyone else.

This article really is not surpring to me as many liberal Jews run to Israel so that they can feel like "Real Jews" when theyare no better than God-less communists.

My boss is one of those "cultists." He is an honorable man that I respect far more than any "average" Israeli becasuse he lives as Jewish Law demands. He chooses to not live like an animal.

And that is what God-less people are: animals.

I pity them.
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#12 Posted: Mon, Jan 13 2014, 12:13 PM EST
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jpotts wrote:
I actually deal with a lot of Jews and Israelis.

The assumption here is obviously that all Israelis are the guys you see at the Wailing Wall. They are not. They consider those guys as being part of a cult. So victor's article us not surprising as he obviouly is just as ignorant as everyone else.

This article really is not surpring to me as many liberal Jews run to Israel so that they can feel like "Real Jews" when theyare no better than God-less communists.

My boss is one of those "cultists." He is an honorable man that I respect far more than any "average" Israeli becasuse he lives as Jewish Law demands. He chooses to not live like an animal.

And that is what God-less people are: animals.

I pity them.


Oh Potts... You missed the point completely. Hell, I think the author gave it to you in the first paragraph.

Anyway... you can pity all you want, at least I can do basic math.
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#13 Posted: Tue, Jan 14 2014, 12:01 AM EST
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Shalom
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#14 Posted: Tue, Jan 14 2014, 10:02 AM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Oh Potts... You missed the point completely. Hell, I think the author gave it to you in the first paragraph.

Anyway... you can pity all you want, at least I can do basic math.

Fool Status: Pitied
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#15 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 6:10 AM EST
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like it or not, abortion is constitutionally protected.
TMCTLT Offline
#16 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 8:35 AM EST
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RICKAMAVEN wrote:
like it or not, abortion is constitutionally protected.




NOT fog Yet another time in our country's history where they ( The Supremes )Got it WRONG!!! No doubt got their ears pinned back by their wives on this decision, after all.....if mama ain't happy.....ain't no one gonna be happy

You don't want a pregnancy......DON'T GET PREGNANT, seems pretty easy to me.
Other than a case of rape and or incest....it IS not a right. iMHO
Brewha Offline
#17 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 8:43 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
You don't want a pregnancy......DON'T GET PREGNANT, seems pretty easy to me.
Other than a case of rape and or incest....it IS not a right. iMHO

Seem easier still to me; you don’t have a uterus, so mind you own business.

You may now object on the grounds that your personal religious believes classify it as wrong and you are morally obligated tell others they don’t live up to your beliefs.
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#18 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 8:57 AM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Seem easier still to me; you don’t have a uterus, so mind you own business.

You may now object on the grounds that your personal religious believes classify it as wrong and you are morally obligated tell others they don’t live up to your beliefs.




Ahhhh so obviously YOU do have a uterus and that's why your SO opinionated on the subject. If I or any other person should have to pay into the same insurance base that pays for abortions....it IS MY BUSINESS.

Hopefully they've already removed yours.....
Brewha Offline
#19 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 10:14 AM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Ahhhh so obviously YOU do have a uterus and that's why your SO opinionated on the subject. If I or any other person should have to pay into the same insurance base that pays for abortions....it IS MY BUSINESS.

Hopefully they've already removed yours.....

No, it is not you business because you pay into the insurance base. By that flimsy piece of logic it would be you business to insist that people don’t eat junk food, drink alcohol, become over weight, drive motor cycles, or - - - SMOKE (you commie!).

America is about having the freedom to do stupid sh1t that is bad as hell for us. Even get drunk, knock up and take a morning after pill (I love this country!). Excuse me while I go down to the post office just of salute a flag . . .
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#20 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 12:27 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Ahhhh so obviously YOU do have a uterus and that's why your SO opinionated on the subject. If I or any other person should have to pay into the same insurance base that pays for abortions....it IS MY BUSINESS.

Hopefully they've already removed yours.....


So how do you feel about israel subsidizing abortions?

I mean, the US gives money to israel... you pay US taxes.... technically you are paying money into the pot which goes to israel. Some of that is used to subsidize abortions.

Why aren't you just as OUTRAGED about this? Is it because you haven't been told to be by Brietbart?
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#21 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 1:18 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
No, it is not you business because you pay into the insurance base. By that flimsy piece of logic it would be you business to insist that people don’t eat junk food, drink alcohol, become over weight, drive motor cycles, or - - - SMOKE (you commie!).

America is about having the freedom to do stupid sh1t that is bad as hell for us. Even get drunk, knock up and take a morning after pill (I love this country!). Excuse me while I go down to the post office just of salute a flag . . .


I know you were just making a point, but it's rather sad when you compare killing an unborn child with eating junk food.
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#22 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 1:34 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I know you were just making a point, but it's rather sad when you compare killing an unborn child with eating junk food.



Yeah...

I like junk food. Don't screw around with that.
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#23 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 2:12 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
No, it is not you business because you pay into the insurance base. By that flimsy piece of logic it would be you business to insist that people don’t eat junk food, drink alcohol, become over weight, drive motor cycles, or - - - SMOKE (you commie!).

America is about having the freedom to do stupid sh1t that is bad as hell for us. Even get drunk, knock up and take a morning after pill (I love this country!). Excuse me while I go down to the post office just of salute a flag . . .



Who do you suppose was spearheading all the smoking bans and why? Insurance companies trying to limit their liability....limit the amount of healthcare dollars spent on smoking related illnesses!!! So take your flimsy BS and sell it elsewhere
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#24 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 2:22 PM EST
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tailgater wrote:
I know you were just making a point, but it's rather sad when you compare killing an unborn child with eating junk food.


Sorry TG, but consider the audience I have to work with . . . .

I recognize that many here believe that 1st trimester abortion amounts to “murder”. Realize that as a point of science and law it is not. The belief that it is murder comes from ones religious or philosophical values – which is honorable. However that honor is washed away when they seek to force their values on others – in spite of science and the law.
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#25 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 2:30 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Who do you suppose was spearheading all the smoking bans and why? Insurance companies trying to limit their liability....limit the amount of healthcare dollars spent on smoking related illnesses!!! So take your flimsy BS and sell it elsewhere


....so because the insurance companies are pushing nanny state crap, you feel like you should add on to it?
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#26 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 2:37 PM EST
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TMCTLT wrote:
Who do you suppose was spearheading all the smoking bans and why? Insurance companies trying to limit their liability....limit the amount of healthcare dollars spent on smoking related illnesses!!! So take your flimsy BS and sell it elsewhere

So, you agree with the insurance companies trying to save money by banning smoking?

Ok, then – you will save more in healthcare costs by not having the child brought to term. You avoid a life time of medical cost that way. So you’re Pro-Choice now, yes?
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#27 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 2:43 PM EST
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victor809 wrote:
Yeah...

I like junk food. Don't screw around with that.

Too late – they are already trying to kill the Big Gulp in NYC.

But not all is lost – the Twinkie was reincarnated.
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#28 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 2:50 PM EST
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Brewha wrote:
Too late – they are already trying to kill the Big Gulp in NYC.

But not all is lost – the Twinkie was reincarnated.



If we increase the abortion window, will they bring back the junk food? I'm willing to go all the way to the 57th trimester...
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#29 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 2:53 PM EST
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I still have a couple boxes of the original twinkies..... prolly shoulda ate them tho... Unsure
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#30 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 2:57 PM EST
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57th trimester would make the fetus 14.25 years old. That's about the time you start considering abortion again I reckon.
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#31 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:05 PM EST
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sd72 wrote:
57th trimester would make the fetus 14.25 years old. That's about the time you start considering abortion again I reckon.


Maybe my math is off, but 57 should be 18...

And you should never get "0.25" as a remainder when you're dealing with trimesters.
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#32 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:08 PM EST
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he's figuring a 4 month trimester.... d'oh!
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#33 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:10 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
he's figuring a 4 month trimester.... d'oh!


....ok... I'm pretty sure there's 12 months in a year, which means 4 months is a trimester.

To get a 0.25 of a year, he would need to be figuring a 3 month trimester.
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#34 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:14 PM EST
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d'oh!
true.. I meant he was figuring 4 trimesters a year... Mellow
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#35 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:15 PM EST
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theres 3 months in a trimester pregnancy lasts 9 months not 12
DrafterX Offline
#36 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:15 PM EST
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but, a pregnancy is only 9 months so a preg trimester would be 3 months right..?? Huh
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#37 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:16 PM EST
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thought you said you could do basic math
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#38 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:19 PM EST
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at 18 it's time to start thinking about those 4 month trimesters... Mellow
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#39 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:19 PM EST
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DrafterX wrote:
but, a pregnancy is only 9 months so a preg trimester would be 3 months right..?? Huh


Depends. Are we talking human pregnancies?
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#40 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:20 PM EST
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i think so, who else gets abortions?
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#41 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:21 PM EST
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I was never good at math - so I went into engineering;

1 trimester = 3 months
57 trimesters = 171 months
171 months=14.25 years
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#42 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:22 PM EST
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BuckyB93 wrote:
Depends. Are we talking human pregnancies?



Manatees.... Mellow
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#43 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:23 PM EST
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whats the gestation period of a manatee???
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#44 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:25 PM EST
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sd72 wrote:
whats the gestation period of a manatee???

African or European?
sd72 Offline
#45 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:27 PM EST
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Galopagos island
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#46 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:31 PM EST
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sd72 wrote:
whats the gestation period of a manatee???



12 or 13 months... Think
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#47 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:33 PM EST
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Oh. Then i guess Vic is right.

about Manatees anyway
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#48 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:37 PM EST
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I dunno... I think it's 13 and that would bring the .25 back into the equation.... Mellow
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#49 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:38 PM EST
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sd72 wrote:
theres 3 months in a trimester pregnancy lasts 9 months not 12


Dammit... SD is right.

I didnt' consider that pregnancies only last 9months.
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#50 Posted: Wed, Jan 15 2014, 3:39 PM EST
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Im just amazed that vic thought three trimesters equaled one year. thats what breastfeeding till 16yo will get ya
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