America's #1 Online Cigar Auction
first, best, biggest!

Last post 10 years ago by Brewha. 67 replies replies.
2 Pages12>
Tea Party, salvation or destruction of our county?
gryphonms Offline
#1 Posted:
Joined: 04-14-2013
Posts: 1,983
I thought it would be fun to post something today that should generate a lot of discussion.

Please note, the question makes no mention of our political system.

The context of the question refers to the effect of the Tea Party on our country.
Burner02 Offline
#2 Posted:
Joined: 12-21-2010
Posts: 12,884
I would say the jury is still out.
TMCTLT Offline
#3 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
It will be considered destructive by those who work for the Gov. And those receiving a check for providing NOTHING in return, salvation for those who want
" SMALLER Government "

Why is it that when the economy is in a recessionary mode that the private sector has no choice but to cut back, small businesses lay off or let folks go in order to survive.....but not our Government...they just start " creating jobs "
bloody spaniard Offline
#4 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
Yes, Burner, I would say the jury's out as well. Seem like a genuinely good bunch of people interested in the betterment of this country but, alas, it may be too late. I may send them a check anyway.


The Democrats are entrenched w/growing special interest support and the Republicans are satisfied with their minority status as "mini spoilers". IMHO all Tea Party candidates will do is split the conservative/moderate vote and sweep Liberals in as they recently did in Virginia and as Perot did twice to the Republican candidates with his bullshiite Reform Party.
Gene363 Offline
#5 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,850

Paying our bills and living within our income, what a concept!
bloody spaniard Offline
#6 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
When they took us off the gold standard, "paper" became king.
HockeyDad Offline
#7 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,164
Tea Party. (They miss tea being served by negros)
bloody spaniard Offline
#8 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
HockeyDad wrote:
Tea Party. (They miss tea being served by negros)

LMAO! So is that a bad thing? Negros need jobs too.
I missed ya, buddy.Herfing
HockeyDad Offline
#9 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,164
Democrats had their Blue Dogs until they were bought off. The. Tea Party are the "red dogs" who are being bought off.
ZRX1200 Offline
#10 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,630
Anyone who believes that any political party is the nation's Savior is a fool.

The Tea Party started out as something that could have been great until ****** Army coopted it.
bloody spaniard Offline
#11 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
HockeyDad wrote:
Democrats had their Blue Dogs until they were bought off. The. Tea Party are the "red dogs" who are being bought off.

The southern Blue Dogs left their Democrat party for the Republicans. I believe that the Tea Party "red dogs" as you put it, were never really part of the political swingvote of the Republican party. They're a mishmash of constitutionalists and libertarians- basically spoilers who push their own agenda and if the Republican candidate happens to fit in, then fine, otherwise, F the establishment party & capitulate to the enemy.

Nothing short of civil war or a major catastrophe will change the political landscape of this country in the foreseeable future.
ZRX1200 Offline
#12 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,630
F*** the establishment you say?


Yes like John Holmes I'll split that bitch like gutting a salmon. Twice. Three times on Sunday.


And no cab $
Buckwheat Offline
#13 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
Good ideas that are poorly executed and not marketed well at all. JMO
jetblasted Offline
#14 Posted:
Joined: 08-30-2004
Posts: 42,595
The TEA Party stands for taxed enough already.
09ChallengerDad Offline
#15 Posted:
Joined: 10-11-2013
Posts: 128
Not sure if the TEA Party is the right answer, but I think it might be a step in the right direction.
We don't have a "tax" problem, we have a "spending" problem.
I pay almost half of my income in various forms of taxes and user fees. That's ridiculous.
Each child in this country is over $80,000.00 in debt already (to cover the national debt). How many of them will grow up to be productive taxpayers, and how many more will continue to suckle the entitlement tit?
The problem isn't limited to Democrats. Republicans have their sacred cows as well..... Just too much of MY money being spent on things I don't want - or need.
Too much Government overall - getting into areas they should stay out of. Period.
Want to have a positive effect on Health Care? Price regulations on prescription drugs would be a HUGE help.
Why do we hear about Social Security (a fund wage-earners pay into) running out of money, Military retirement COLA's being cut for lack of funds, .......but Welfare never seems to suffer funding problems? Hmmm......

Can't remember the last time Congress had to go without their pay or perks.... or the POTUS and family enjoying a half dozen extravagant vacations per year for the White House residents.
Their priorities are all F...ed up in Washington.
Time for a total overhaul.
Maybe a Tea Party IS needed?
DrafterX Offline
#16 Posted:
Joined: 10-18-2005
Posts: 98,566
I hear ya man.... Mellow
Brewha Offline
#17 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
One word; Teabillies.
Brewha Offline
#18 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
HockeyDad wrote:
Tea Party. (They miss tea being served by negros)

"Negros"? Do people still use the term "negros"?


It's people I'm talking about here . . . .
ZRX1200 Offline
#19 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,630
You're my negro Brewha.....modern parlance "my buddy"
bloody spaniard Offline
#20 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
ZRX1200 wrote:
You're my negro Brewha.....modern parlance "my buddy"

...and term of endearance among difference races in hispanic cultures.
Buckwheat Offline
#21 Posted:
Joined: 04-15-2004
Posts: 12,251
Those negros stole our dates.
frankj1 Offline
#22 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,231
sorry, but I must instruct here.

The plural of Nego is Negroes

Tomato/tomatoes
Potato/potatoes
Negro/negroes

but we no longer use that word so it's a moot point.
ZRX1200 Offline
#23 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,630
We just did.
wheelrite Offline
#24 Posted:
Joined: 11-01-2006
Posts: 50,119
ZRX1200 wrote:
I love Negro men



oh my,,,
frankj1 Offline
#25 Posted:
Joined: 02-08-2007
Posts: 44,231
ZRX1200 wrote:
We just did.

guilty as charged. Actually, I use the word frequently as I find it quite humorous
DadZilla3 Offline
#26 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
bloody spaniard wrote:
Nothing short of civil war or a major catastrophe will change the political landscape of this country in the foreseeable future.

Exactly this. It took a Revolutionary War the first time, a Civil War the second time to rearrange the status quo. Maybe next time we'll get it right. And considering the strong socioeconomic and political polarization in this country, there definitely will be a next time.
stogiemonger Offline
#27 Posted:
Joined: 06-25-2009
Posts: 4,185
I think the TEA party will be short lived.

The Libertarian party will benefit greatly from this experiment.
TMCTLT Offline
#28 Posted:
Joined: 11-22-2007
Posts: 19,733
DadZilla3 wrote:
Exactly this. It took a Revolutionary War the first time, a Civil War the second time to rearrange the status quo. Maybe next time we'll get it right. And considering the strong socioeconomic and political polarization in this country, there definitely will be a next time.



+ 1 It IS with great sadness that I agree wholeheartedly ( have been thinking this for quite some time...decades even)
But then this IS the game of politics, pit " The People " against one another. Sadly they now use the media more than ever to keep the vitriol churning and the voter base clearly divided.
victor809 Offline
#29 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
DadZilla3 wrote:
Exactly this. It took a Revolutionary War the first time, a Civil War the second time to rearrange the status quo. Maybe next time we'll get it right. And considering the strong socioeconomic and political polarization in this country, there definitely will be a next time.


An interesting statement.

Of course, since you're suggesting we "rearrange the status quo" I think the sane question would be, exactly what group do you want to see on "top" of the new status quo for you to consider it done "right"?
rfenst Offline
#30 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,379
For a historical perspective (not necessarily issues of the time) take a look (wikipedia) back at the American Whig Party, Republicans and Democrats, which were in existence in what was basically a three party system for a short while.
bloody spaniard Offline
#31 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
victor809 wrote:
An interesting statement.

Of course, since you're suggesting we "rearrange the status quo" I think the sane question would be, exactly what group do you want to see on "top" of the new status quo for you to consider it done "right"?

IMO it may start under the guise of politics but it won't be political as much as it'll be the Balkanization of America along racial/ethnic lines just like the USSR and more accurately- Yugoslavia. It'll be so violent, we'll be rendered ineffectual as a country.

I'm so giddy. I don't know who to pick- white or latino- depends on whose offer is mo' better I suppose.Beer
DadZilla3 Offline
#32 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
victor809 wrote:
An interesting statement.

Of course, since you're suggesting we "rearrange the status quo" I think the sane question would be, exactly what group do you want to see on "top" of the new status quo for you to consider it done "right"?

Why, the white Wall Street bankers, of course.

Seriously though Victor, the 'group' that should be running the show is 'WE THE PEOPLE'...not the monied special interests.
bloody spaniard Offline
#33 Posted:
Joined: 03-14-2003
Posts: 43,802
DadZilla3 wrote:
Why, the white Wall Street bankers, of course.

Seriously though Victor, the 'group' that should be running the show is 'WE THE PEOPLE'...not the monied special interests.

Soñaba la mula vieja, pobre mula vieja- loosely translated: dream on...
victor809 Offline
#34 Posted:
Joined: 10-14-2011
Posts: 23,866
DadZilla3 wrote:
Why, the white Wall Street bankers, of course.

Seriously though Victor, the 'group' that should be running the show is 'WE THE PEOPLE'...not the monied special interests.


"We the people" is pretty vague.

Are you arguing a select set of people which need to be in charge?
Are you suggesting some sort of proletariat revolution ala Marx?

Aren't the dudes in charge of the "monied special interests" also americans?
DadZilla3 Offline
#35 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
victor809 wrote:
"We the people" is pretty vague.

Are you arguing a select set of people which need to be in charge?
Are you suggesting some sort of proletariat revolution ala Marx?

Aren't the dudes in charge of the "monied special interests" also americans?


Short replies: Not really, no, no, and not always.

First and foremost, the lobbyists must go. Lobbying the government is akin to jury tampering. The Wall Street bankers, Big Pharma, Big Ag, and a host of other monied special interests have the government at their beck and call. That must end. We have a structure in place for electing officials who are tasked with governing according to what the voters hired (elected) them to do, not what a handful of elites bid them to do.

I make these arguments for the sake of open discussion, nothing more. As far as healing the political and socioeconomic divisions in this nation, correcting the dysfunctions in the governing process, and dragging it kicking and screaming out of the staggering level of debt we are sinking into...it ain't gonna happen without an Armegeddon.

We're f**ked pardner. Too many of us are too stupid, too lazy, and too greedy to want it any other way.

Enjoy.
DadZilla3 Offline
#36 Posted:
Joined: 01-17-2009
Posts: 4,633
bloody spaniard wrote:
Soñaba la mula vieja, pobre mula vieja- loosely translated: dream on...


Tenemos que soñar, es todo lo que tenemos ahora mi amigo.
09ChallengerDad Offline
#37 Posted:
Joined: 10-11-2013
Posts: 128
What we need is someone in the White House that will focus us on a pervasive and common problem. In the past, war has united our people and resolve.....but ONLY those not politically motivated like WWI, WWII, and the hunt for Bin Laden.
Our biggest problem is our apathy toward greed and power. We have entirely too short a memory, and too little resolve to carry out a prolonged address to our problems. It's like the entire country has ADHD and Alzheimers combined.
We need to address our seemingly limitless spending. The "gold standard" was abandoned, and so went our solvency as a nation. Now we borrow more than we repay - and think doing more of the same will cure the problem. (Isn't that the definition of insanity?)
It's going to be a painful lesson when our sheeple finally realize that there's no "world bankruptcy courts" to discharge our national debt, and China starts taking collateral when we don't have more assets left than what we owe.
jetblasted Offline
#38 Posted:
Joined: 08-30-2004
Posts: 42,595
DadZilla3 wrote:
Tenemos que soƱar, es todo lo que tenemos ahora mi amigo.


This 'merica !! Speak English Mother ******** !!

ram27bat
rfenst Offline
#39 Posted:
Joined: 06-23-2007
Posts: 39,379
09ChallengerDad wrote:
What we need is someone in the White House that will focus us on a pervasive and common problem. In the past, war has united our people and resolve.....but ONLY those not politically motivated like WWI, WWII, and the hunt for Bin Laden.
Our biggest problem is our apathy toward greed and power. We have entirely too short a memory, and too little resolve to carry out a prolonged address to our problems. It's like the entire country has ADHD and Alzheimers combined.
We need to address our seemingly limitless spending. The "gold standard" was abandoned, and so went our solvency as a nation. Now we borrow more than we repay - and think doing more of the same will cure the problem. (Isn't that the definition of insanity?)
It's going to be a painful lesson when our sheeple finally realize that there's no "world bankruptcy courts" to discharge our national debt, and China starts taking collateral when we don't have more assets left than what we owe.


Hyperinflation is the world's bankruptcy court.
Brewha Offline
#40 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
ZRX1200 wrote:
You're my negro Brewha.....modern parlance "my buddy"

Uh...... Thanks.
I think...............
Brewha Offline
#41 Posted:
Joined: 01-25-2010
Posts: 12,201
bloody spaniard wrote:
...and term of endearance among difference races in hispanic cultures.

Hispanics eat yogurt?
RICKAMAVEN Offline
#42 Posted:
Joined: 10-01-2000
Posts: 33,248
the tea party is a group of ignorant americans voted into office by a collection

of people with similar stupidity. thankfully they have all but destroyed the

repubican party.


unfortunatily they will ultimately destroy the great experement of democracy.


if the demoncrats don't take back the house, in 2012, sell your usa stock,

the south will rise again.
ZRX1200 Offline
#43 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,630
Merika F**k yeah!!!
scompay Offline
#44 Posted:
Joined: 04-17-2010
Posts: 1,721
LOL
"Negroes serving tea"
"revolution is coming"

LOL wake up and smell the coffee delusion idiots, they are not serving tea anymore, they run the land! the revolution happened 6 years ago!

Failure- twice! is a pretty good indicator if the tea party was a good thing or not.

Sensible folks defeated the delusional folks- time to suck it in pansies.
scompay Offline
#45 Posted:
Joined: 04-17-2010
Posts: 1,721
Bloody I hate to be the one to give this memo to you; You use the word Spanish as affectionately as the bygone word Aryan, nowadays folks who speak spanish are called something else implying a different servitude. My Condolences.

Good news is that although derogatory, one can no longer use the adjective lazy in front of it.
ZRX1200 Offline
#46 Posted:
Joined: 07-08-2007
Posts: 60,630
What happened in the house in the midterm elections of 2010 before the Tea Party was co-opted?

You're really swinging big tonight sugar.

Aim high and fail to achive, I like you more all the time.
scompay Offline
#47 Posted:
Joined: 04-17-2010
Posts: 1,721
Question is did any of the tea party wishlist come to fruition?
Compare that with Obamacare to Gay rights.
We have a quantifiable measure
DrMaddVibe Offline
#48 Posted:
Joined: 10-21-2000
Posts: 55,516
Blaming the Tea Party is like blaming the media for showing up at the scene of a fire.

The fire was already raging by the time they got there...they didn't start it...they're not helping put it out...they're just commenting on it. That's about how much power the Tea Party has against the chokehold the other 2 parties have on American politics.
HockeyDad Offline
#49 Posted:
Joined: 09-20-2000
Posts: 46,164
scompay wrote:
Bloody I hate to be the one to give this memo to you; You use the word Spanish as affectionately as the bygone word Aryan, nowadays folks who speak spanish are called something else implying a different servitude. My Condolences.

Good news is that although derogatory, one can no longer use the adjective lazy in front of it.



Spaniards are ridiculously lazy.
Gene363 Offline
#50 Posted:
Joined: 01-24-2003
Posts: 30,850
HockeyDad wrote:
Spaniards are ridiculously lazy.


So said the French pot.
jester
Users browsing this topic
Guest
2 Pages12>